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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:05 pm
by Topher
I answered yes, but will stick to 8.0 & KDE3 until I understand my way around 4 better. I don't learn as fast as I used to.
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:39 pm
by beckwith
Check release numbers. 8.5 does not ship with 4.4KDE, it's
4.3 with 8000+ bugs. If you push it a little it breaks. OK
if you are happy with what is shipped, but don't try and
configure it.
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:51 pm
by richb
beckwith wrote:Check release numbers. 8.5 does not ship with 4.4KDE, it's
4.3 with 8000+ bugs. If you push it a little it breaks. OK
if you are happy with what is shipped, but don't try and
configure it.
????????? Push it how? It runs everything I need, why must one push it? Configures OK for me.
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:12 pm
by mikeg
I'm fairly new but I like KDE 4 so far. Glad you did't go with the new scrolling/rolling menu!
mikeg
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:49 pm
by Danum
beckwith wrote:Check release numbers. 8.5 does not ship with 4.4KDE, it's
4.3 with 8000+ bugs. If you push it a little it breaks. OK
if you are happy with what is shipped, but don't try and
configure it.
And how many bugs are outstanding in 3.5, I will let you check
99% of which will never be fixed.
And for the record there are no bugs in debian 4.3 anymore,
because 4.3 it is not in the debian repo's, long gone.
As for breaking if you insist on using it as you would 3.5 it will. that is why it is called 4.3
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:07 am
by joany
beckwith wrote:Check release numbers. 8.5 does not ship with 4.4KDE, it's
4.3 with 8000+ bugs. If you push it a little it breaks. OK
if you are happy with what is shipped, but don't try and
configure it.
I've only found 2 or 3 bugs, which I easily worked around. Of course, I tend not to "push things" beyond their design limits. This policy applies to appliances, cars, and desktop environments.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:31 pm
by arjaybe
I must admit that I haven't used KDE 4.* very much, but I don't think I could name 8,000 features, much less 8,000 bugs.
1337 customization with no Bear sweat
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:44 pm
by SilverBear
Yo, Ace!
You know I can't resist a poll!
I'm on record as being a guy who seriously discussed making antiX his main distro rather than go KDE4. Anybody who doesn't know that already, please be aware.
Danum, was the guy who spun me right 'round with his Canteras releases. Then Warren Woodford put his hand on my shoulder and stopped me from spinning any further than 180 degrees.
Prior to 4.3, the new KDE was "not ready for prime time" IMO. Yes, and 4.3 needs a little loving care to be the kind of girl (guy) you want to take home to meet Mom.
Know that Danum & WW are master headmasters in the KDE Charm School.
Configurable? Here's my MSI portable's version of Mepis 8.5, which has been continuously updated since it was installed from the Alpha release LiveCD.
Item 1 was that with a 1366x768 widescreen format, I needed vertical space. So the "panel" plasmoid went further left than anticapitalista. (No dig intended,
anti! You
know yer "my man!" I just can't resist hamming up a forum post.) Then I installed and configured Conky, since I consider that utility "a must" on a laptop.
Point is, Mepis 8.5 with KDE4.3 lets me do this:
Got my wireless working with no sweat, got Quanta installed with a little pinning of packages, doing the MC repo version of GIMP for grafix, getting (slowly!) some work done today revising mepis.org, all on "my" Mep 8.5 on this machine. . .
I'm not denying that somebody might be having problems with KDE4.3 or Mepis 8.5.
But it ain't this Bear.
I like it a lot
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:32 pm
by masinick
richb wrote:I am very happy with MEPIS 8.5 and KDE 4.4. I was skeptical when KDE4 was first released. In fact I disliked it. As more releases came out I became a convert. And Warren has done a great job integrating KDE4 with stable Debian, not an easy task. I am looking forward with great anticipation to Mepis 10.
I was not quite as reluctant as Rich; I got an earlier start, though not quite as early as Danum. On some non-Debian systems, I got a REALLY early look at KDE 4.0, and it was poor enough not to consider very seriously. When KDE 4.1 came out, it was more functional, enough to use for some stuff. I used it on and off with Kubuntu, but stuck to legacy KDE.
When KDE 4.2.2 became available in Debian Sid, I gave it a whirl. For the most part it was good, but I did find and report some defects, which I am happy to say were fixed by KDE 4.2.4, also in Debian Sid. By that time, I was a regular KDE user in Debian Sid, plus I used some of the really good KDE 4.2 respins provided by Danum.
So by the time we got KDE 4 in SimplyMEPIS, I was looking forward to it and I can say that it is one of the smoothest, unobtrusive KDE implementations I've used, so it gets my endorsement.
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:37 pm
by Adrian
Yes, cause 4.4 is much better than crappier attempt that 4.0 was and Warren got KDE 4 right with default sane desktop settings.