MX 25 Beta 1 Feedback thread

[mmikeinsantarosa]

synaptic repositories list is empty.

empty-synaptic.png

Is this related to (a bug in trixie)?

MX 25 utilizes the new(ish) deb822 format for sources information

.Are we waiting for debian to fix this?

[dolphin_oracle]

synaptic repositories list is empty.
empty-synaptic.png
Is this related to (a bug in trixie)?

MX 25 utilizes the new(ish) deb822 format for sources information

.Are we waiting for debian to fix this?

its a known issue, and I doubt debian fixes it at this point.

it will work for anything still in the older *.list format.

[wraithwind]

I've used claws-mail for managing my e-mails for over 15 or 16 years now, but I've found that in MX 25 KDE the Claws-mail system tray icon is missing in Wayland. I switched to X.org & it's there. Also the "Notifications" icon is just a blank.

[AVLinux]

Don't make assumptions on dark. Nobody in my direct surroundings likes dark mode, including me.

+1

I maintain 5 MX Linux installs for others and none of us like dark themes. I even alter the css code for Whisker to change the black borders to light grey.

Chris

I'm the opposite these days. The last couple of years, light colored backgrounds hurt my eyes which is why I always show dark colored screenshots.

Lol, as a Distributor that's an unwinnable scenario...

[siamhie]

+1

I maintain 5 MX Linux installs for others and none of us like dark themes. I even alter the css code for Whisker to change the black borders to light grey.

Chris

I'm the opposite these days. The last couple of years, light colored backgrounds hurt my eyes which is why I always show dark colored screenshots.

Lol, as a Distributor that's an unwinnable scenario...

Not entirely. First thing I do with any distro is change to it's dark theme if it's available.
If not, I can always install a dark theme. Both parties are .....

[mmikeinsantarosa]

synaptic repositories list is empty.
empty-synaptic.png
Is this related to (a bug in trixie)?

MX 25 utilizes the new(ish) deb822 format for sources information

.Are we waiting for debian to fix this?

its a known issue, and I doubt debian fixes it at this point.

it will work for anything still in the older *.list format.

Thanks D.O.
Our apt updater/notifier launches synaptic. Should it launch an alternative apt/synaptic like widget then if synaptic will stay broken for trixie?
Or is there a plan to provide a deb822 format to .list translator to fix ours?

-mike

[AVLinux]

synaptic repositories list is empty.
empty-synaptic.png
Is this related to (a bug in trixie)? .Are we waiting for debian to fix this?

its a known issue, and I doubt debian fixes it at this point.

it will work for anything still in the older *.list format.

Thanks D.O.
Our apt updater/notifier launches synaptic. Should it launch an alternative apt/synaptic like widget then if synaptic will stay broken for trixie?
Or is there a plan to provide a deb822 format to .list translator to fix ours?

-mike

I believe the new Trixie MX-Updater defaults to MXPI, or on my test ISO's I don't see Synaptic listed in the popup by default anyway.. In the past year MXPI added a lot of Synaptic-like functions so I don't even miss it anymore personally.

[kmathern]

Synaptic works except for it's Settings > Repositories function, could we maybe look through the source and disable that function?

Or is there a plan to provide a deb822 format to .list translator to fix ours?

'inxi -r' kind of does that already, it displays something that looks like the traditional *.list format, though the line above will show that it's from a .sources file instead of a .list file

[Lurking]

MX 25 beta KDE:

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Snapshot created on: 20251005_1303
System:
  Kernel: 6.12.48+deb13-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 14.2.0 clocksource: tsc
    avail: hpet,acpi_pm parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.12.48+deb13-amd64 root=UUID=<filter>
    ro quiet
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 6.3.6 tk: Qt v: N/A info: frameworks v: 6.13.0 wm: kwin_wayland vt: 1
    dm: SDDM Distro: MX-25_KDE_beta1_x64 Infinity September 21 2025 base: Debian GNU/Linux 13
    (trixie)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: ASRock model: H170M Pro4 serial: <superuser required>
    uuid: <superuser required> UEFI-[Legacy]: American Megatrends v: P7.20 date: 11/30/2016
Battery:
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Touch Keyboard K400 serial: <filter>
    charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: discharging
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core i7-6700 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Skylake-S gen: core 6 level: v3
    note: check built: 2015 process: Intel 14nm family: 6 model-id: 0x5E (94) stepping: 3
    microcode: 0xF0
  Topology: cpus: 1x dies: 1 clusters: 4 cores: 4 threads: 8 tpc: 2 smt: enabled cache:
    L1: 256 KiB desc: d-4x32 KiB; i-4x32 KiB L2: 1024 KiB desc: 4x256 KiB L3: 8 MiB desc: 1x8 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 800 min/max: 800/4000 scaling: driver: intel_pstate governor: powersave
    cores: 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 4: 800 5: 800 6: 800 7: 800 8: 800 bogomips: 54398
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Vulnerable: No microcode
  Type: indirect_target_selection status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: Split huge pages
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
  Type: mmio_stale_data mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed mitigation: IBRS
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: IBRS; IBPB: conditional; STIBP: conditional; RSB filling;
    PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
  Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode
  Type: tsa status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort mitigation: TSX disabled
  Type: vmscape mitigation: IBPB before exit to userspace
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 530 vendor: ASRock driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-9
    process: Intel 14n built: 2015-16 ports: active: HDMI-A-2 empty: DP-1, DP-2, HDMI-A-1, HDMI-A-3
    bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:1912 class-ID: 0300
  Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.21.1.16 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.6 compositor: kwin_wayland
    driver: X: loaded: intel dri: i965 gpu: i915 display-ID: 0
  Monitor-1: HDMI-A-2 model: Denon DENON-AVAMP serial: <filter> built: 2015 res: mode: 3840x2160
    hz: 30 scale: 250% (2.5) to: 1536x864 dpi: 69 gamma: 1.2 size: 1872x1053mm (73.7x41.46")
    diag: 1630mm (64.2") ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 3840x2160 min: 720x400
  API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: intel iris platforms: device: 0 drv: iris device: 1 drv: swrast gbm:
    drv: iris surfaceless: drv: iris wayland: drv: iris x11: drv: iris
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: intel mesa v: 25.0.7-2 glx-v: 1.4 direct-render: yes
    renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 530 (SKL GT2) device-ID: 8086:1912 memory: 7.47 GiB unified: yes
    display-ID: :1.0
  API: Vulkan v: 1.4.309 layers: 3 device: 0 type: integrated-gpu name: Intel HD Graphics 530
    (SKL GT2) driver: mesa intel v: 25.0.7-2 device-ID: 8086:1912 surfaces: xcb,xlib,wayland
    device: 1 type: cpu name: llvmpipe (LLVM 19.1.7 256 bits) driver: mesa llvmpipe
    v: 25.0.7-2 (LLVM 19.1.7) device-ID: 10005:0000 surfaces: xcb,xlib,wayland
  Info: Tools: api: eglinfo, glxinfo, vulkaninfo de: kscreen-console,kscreen-doctor
    wl: wayland-info x11: xdriinfo, xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 100 Series/C230 Series Family HD Audio vendor: ASRock driver: snd_hda_intel
    v: kernel alternate: snd_soc_avs bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:a170 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.12.48+deb13-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.4.5 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Ethernet I219-V vendor: ASRock driver: e1000e v: kernel port: N/A bus-ID: 00:1f.6
    chip-ID: 8086:15b8 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
  Info: services: NetworkManager, nfsd, smbd, systemd-networkd, wpa_supplicant
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 22.61 GiB (9.5%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Samsung model: MZHPV256HDGL-00000 size: 238.47 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s tech: SSD serial: <filter>
    fw-rev: 500Q scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 238.47 GiB size: 233.67 GiB (97.99%) used: 22.61 GiB (9.7%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) zswap: no
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 4 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 27.2 C pch: 35.5 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: 2761 pm: dpkg pkgs: 2754 libs: 1533 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala pm: rpm pkgs: 0
    pm: flatpak pkgs: 7
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.sources
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ trixie main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ trixie-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    3: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ trixie-backports main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    4: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ trixie-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.sources
    1: deb http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo/ trixie ahs
    2: deb http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo/ trixie main non-free
Info:
  Memory: total: 16 GiB note: est. available: 15.3 GiB used: 4.66 GiB (30.5%)
  Processes: 282 Power: uptime: 12m states: freeze,mem,disk suspend: deep avail: s2idle
    wakeups: 0 hibernate: platform avail: shutdown, reboot, suspend, test_resume image: 6.07 GiB
    services: org_kde_powerdevil,upowerd Init: systemd v: 257 default: graphical tool: systemctl
  Compilers: gcc: 14.2.0 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.37-release inxi: 3.3.38
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)

Problem:
Login Screen does not scale.
it stays at 100% despite desktop set to 250%. I had applied the "Apply Plasma Settings" under "login screen (SSDM"

This worked in MX 23.6 and login screen was in same scale as the regular desktop

[fehlix]

synaptic repositories list is empty.
empty-synaptic.png
Is this related to (a bug in trixie)?

MX 25 utilizes the new(ish) deb822 format for sources information

.Are we waiting for debian to fix this?

If I'm not wrong, the known issue of synaptic not handling deb822.sources properly, would be kind of "mitigated" by using mx-repo-manager, which should still support the known one-line format
and at least a sub-set of deb822-sources format

Synaptic works except for it's Settings > Repositories function, could we maybe look through the source and disable that function?

The new "MX updater" offers within the right-click menu to launch mx-repo-manager, which may help to adjust repo sorces-lists with both one-line ".list" and deb822 ".sources" format

I believe the new Trixie MX-Updater defaults to MXPI, or on my test ISO's I don't see Synaptic listed in the popup by default anyway.. In the past year MXPI added a lot of Synaptic-like functions so I don't even miss it anymore personally.

Interesting observation. OTOH, with the MX-25-beta1 ISO's, where synaptic is installed, - which is not in KDE - the option to choose either synaptic or MX Updater's "View and Upgrade" window is with the settings editor to choose. What might be new for "MX Updater" compared to previous release, is that the middle-click - for a reason - kept active, and launches MXPI, if installed.