MX 25 Beta 1 Feedback thread

[chrispop99]

Ah, so that probably explains the hibernate platform disabled message in the QSI.

I don't think that's fixable on my end. and quite frankly, it may be by design. But will look into reports.

At least knowing the cause, it will make support queries easier.

Chris

[Eadwine Rose]

Quick short feedback installing sysvinit version of xfce. None of those "systemd-syxv generator [605]: ! This compatibility logic is deprecated, expect renoval soon. "

Because well duh, no systemd on the system. The other notices about my harddrives

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ata5.00: Model Samsung SSD 570 EVO 500GB reu 'SUTOZB6Q', applying quirks: noneqtrin xeroaftertrin noncom ata5.00: supports DRH functions and may not be fully accessible atas.00: supports DRM Functions and may not be fully accessible atab.00: Model Sansung S5D 070 EVO 500GD'. reu 'SUTOZB60' ata6.00: supports DHM functions and may not be fully accessible
applying quirks: noncatrin

Pardon the spelling of the words again *snort* LOADS less of those. I think this version suppresses them after showing one time or something?

My system SEEMS calmer with it, but then again, it looks like I am used to while booting, so.. it is likely just me. Login on nouveau looks the same as on systemd, screencut wise of the second screen, same screen compression on that driver.


Will test more tomorrow, provide QSI and such, and see what gives with nvidia on that, it miiight be a better fit for the jitter, only time will tell. Time now says bed

[dolphin_oracle]

Ah, so that probably explains the hibernate platform disabled message in the QSI.

I don't think that's fixable on my end. and quite frankly, it may be by design. But will look into reports.

At least knowing the cause, it will make support queries easier.

Chris

according to the A.I. overloards, the linux kernel disables hibernate on the platform level when secure boot is used due to some security risk in loading the hibernate image.

this information may be out of date, but seems to be valid at least for debian and secure boot.

[Eadwine Rose]

Oh yeah.. before I forget.. I always only disable splash on the bootup screen and set the wait time to 3 seconds in MX Boot Options, and the default boot option is 23. Nothing else is changed. Since the install with both the default MX25 and sysvinit MX25 (I have overwritten the default with the sysvinit, complete clean) I first get the grub screen with the entries in it, like 25 on top, 23 somewhere further down, windows... after a bit that disappears, and the next screen comes up, telling me WHAT it is booting (like the kernel version and such). Just two lines or so, but still.

However, that last screen remains empty when booting back into 23. When I boot to 25 it does show kernel and second line 'loading initial ramdisk' or somesuch.

I have done a sudo update-grub when back in 23, but that doesn't fix this little window here in the screenshot.

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Snapshot created on: 20250930_0736
System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-40-amd64 [6.1.153-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-40-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.0 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.38 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.20.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0 Distro: MX-23.6_x64 Libretto July 31  2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: TUF B450-PLUS GAMING v: Rev X.0x serial: <superuser required>
    UEFI: American Megatrends v: 1607 date: 06/17/2019
Battery:
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech MX Ergo Multi-Device Trackball serial: <filter>
    charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: discharging
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 7 2700 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen+ gen: 2 level: v3 note: check
    built: 2018-21 process: GF 12nm family: 0x17 (23) model-id: 8 stepping: 2 microcode: 0x800820D
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 8 tpc: 2 threads: 16 smt: enabled cache: L1: 768 KiB
    desc: d-8x32 KiB; i-8x64 KiB L2: 4 MiB desc: 8x512 KiB L3: 16 MiB desc: 2x8 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1518 high: 1550 min/max: 1550/3200 boost: enabled scaling:
    driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 1550 2: 1547 3: 1395 4: 1375 5: 1550 6: 1550
    7: 1544 8: 1550 9: 1550 10: 1485 11: 1550 12: 1550 13: 1445 14: 1550 15: 1550 16: 1550
    bogomips: 102196
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: indirect_target_selection status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed mitigation: untrained return thunk; SMT vulnerable
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow mitigation: safe RET
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines; IBPB: conditional; STIBP: disabled; RSB filling;
    PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsa status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
  Type: vmscape mitigation: IBPB before exit to userspace
Graphics:
  Device-1: Conexant Systems CX23887/8 PCIe Broadcast Audio and Video Decoder with 3D Comb
    vendor: Hauppauge works driver: cx23885 v: 0.0.4 pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1
    bus-ID: 07:00.0 chip-ID: 14f1:8880 class-ID: 0400
  Device-2: NVIDIA GP107 [GeForce GTX 1050 Ti] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: nvidia v: 535.247.01
    non-free: 530.xx+ status: current (as of 2023-03) arch: Pascal code: GP10x process: TSMC 16nm
    built: 2016-21 pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 08:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:1c82
    class-ID: 0300
  Device-3: Logitech QuickCam E 3500 type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-7:4
    chip-ID: 046d:09a4 class-ID: 0102 serial: <filter>
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.20.0 driver: X: loaded: nvidia
    gpu: cx23885,nvidia display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3840x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 1017x286mm (40.04x11.26")
    s-diag: 1056mm (41.59")
  Monitor-1: DVI-D-0 pos: right res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 102 size: 477x268mm (18.78x10.55")
    diag: 547mm (21.54") modes: N/A
  Monitor-2: HDMI-0 pos: primary,left res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 92
    size: 531x299mm (20.91x11.77") diag: 609mm (23.99") modes: N/A
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 535.247.01 renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Conexant Systems CX23887/8 PCIe Broadcast Audio and Video Decoder with 3D Comb
    vendor: Hauppauge works driver: cx23885 v: 0.0.4 bus-ID: 1-7:4 pcie: chip-ID: 046d:09a4 gen: 1
    class-ID: 0102 serial: <filter> speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 07:00.0 chip-ID: 14f1:8880
    class-ID: 0400
  Device-2: NVIDIA GP107GL High Definition Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 08:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0fb9 class-ID: 0403
  Device-3: AMD Family 17h HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 3
    speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 0a:00.3 chip-ID: 1022:1457 class-ID: 0403
  Device-4: Logitech QuickCam E 3500 type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-40-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: ASUSTeK PRIME B450M-A
    driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: f000 bus-ID: 03:00.0
    chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Ralink MT7601U Wireless Adapter type: USB driver: mt7601u bus-ID: 1-1:2
    chip-ID: 148f:7601 class-ID: 0000 serial: <filter>
  IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Cambridge Silicon Radio Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode) type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8
    bus-ID: 1-8:5 chip-ID: 0a12:0001 class-ID: e001
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.0
    sub-v: 22bb hci-v: 4.0 rev: 22bb
  Info: acl-mtu: 310:10 sco-mtu: 64:8 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff park
    link-mode: peripheral accept service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio,
    telephony
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 1.82 TiB used: 132.3 GiB (7.1%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 EVO 500GB size: 465.76 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 2B6Q
    temp: 22.0 C scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 EVO 500GB size: 465.76 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 2B6Q
    temp: 23.0 C scheme: GPT
  ID-3: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 EVO 500GB size: 465.76 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 2B6Q
    temp: 22.0 C scheme: GPT
  ID-4: /dev/sdd maj-min: 8:48 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 EVO 500GB size: 465.76 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 2B6Q
    temp: 30.0 C scheme: GPT
  ID-5: /dev/sde maj-min: 8:64 type: USB vendor: Generic model: STORAGE size: 3.64 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 9454 scheme: MBR
  SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 78.12 GiB size: 76.35 GiB (97.73%) used: 25.17 GiB (33.0%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sdd2 maj-min: 8:50
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 523 MiB size: 521.9 MiB (99.80%) used: 288 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/sdd1 maj-min: 8:49
  ID-3: /home raw-size: 379.31 GiB size: 372.29 GiB (98.15%) used: 48.63 GiB (13.1%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sdd4 maj-min: 8:52
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 7.81 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/sdd3
    maj-min: 8:51
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 33.9 C mobo: 27.0 C gpu: nvidia temp: 35 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 715 fan-2: 729 fan-3: 0 fan-4: 619 fan-6: 0 gpu: nvidia fan: 25%
  Power: 12v: N/A 5v: N/A 3.3v: 3.36 vbat: 3.27
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2610 libs: 1402 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates non-free-firmware non-free contrib main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/megasync.list
    1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/meganz-archive-keyring.gpg] https://mega.nz/linux/repo/Debian_12/ ./
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb https://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/slack.list
    1: deb https://packagecloud.io/slacktechnologies/slack/debian/ jessie main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/spotify.list
    1: deb http://repository.spotify.com/ stable non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teamviewer.list
    1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/teamviewer-keyring.gpg] https://linux.teamviewer.com/deb stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vivaldi.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb/ stable main
Info:
  Processes: 395 Uptime: 2m wakeups: 4 Memory: 31.27 GiB used: 3.07 GiB (9.8%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

[dreamer]

mate-color-select is less than 1 MiB despite using the mate-desktop package. It should be possible to save custom colors in the Palette section, but maybe it requires additional MATE libs.
I removed OnlyShowIn=MATE; in the desktop file.



MX-25 XFCE Beta (systemd) is running great so far. Thank you devs!