MX 25 Beta 1 Feedback thread

[Sylvestrini]

Neither XFCE nor KDE 25 betas boot on a Lenovo T430 and a 10 year old HP Envy. Lenovo T480 and X260 boot fine from the same two USB flash drives (used Ventoy for both). The issue is that after I choose to boot in normal mode, it then goes to a black screen with a static underscore. Secure boot is off. I have 23.6 on the same flash drives and they boot fine everywhere.

Would you mind to try booting from a LiveUSB, created in two ways:

A) Using "MX LiveUSB Maker" and keep default [x] full feature mode selected, but possible select GPT under Advanced

B) Create the LiveUSB with [X] Image mode - dd-dump, use any tool you like e.g. MX LiveUSB Maker.

In addtition, in case neither A) or B) would boot in UEFI mode, can you try to select boot from file, within UEFI firmware setup (aka BIOS),
in case such an option exists on those Lenovo's . and navigate to the ESP (EFI System Partition) on the full feature mode generated LiveUSB,
and select grubx64 under /EFI/BOOT/grubx64.efi ( maybe also try shimx64.efi)

This would give (maybe) a clue whether Ventoy related or something else.

Thanks

Thanks Fehlix. Both A and B failed on the Lenoto T430, and I do not see the option to boot from file. Overall, in UEFI it is always the same - as soon as I select to boot from the USB, the screen goes dark. Legacy boots fine. I also tried Rufus (MBR and GPT, ISO and DD) and Balena Etcher in addition to Ventoy (MBR and GPT). I even made a snapshot of MX25 that I had installed on another laptop, created a live usb of that but it still does not want to boot in UEFI. But then in Legacy the snapshot boots fine.

I am sorry for making you waste time reading all this on an issue which is likely not global but entirely local on my end.

[Melber]

theme issue: mx-ease-themes 25.09.03 - mx-easy-dark
just noted Password&Keys (aka seahorse) makes the user-Id's of the listed gnupg keys kind of hidden:

Thanks, will look into it.

[trashHeap]

Getting weird 404s on the beta repos, last night and this morning. I've used the MX Repo to flip through a couple of US mirrors, and all give the same result.

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> sudo apt upgrade
Upgrading:                      
  krita  krita-data  mx-live-usb-maker

Installing dependencies:
  krita-l10n

Summary:
  Upgrading: 3, Installing: 1, Removing: 0, Not Upgrading: 0
  Download size: 85.2 MB / 85.3 MB
  Space needed: 25.6 MB / 1,783 GB available

Continue? [Y/n] y
Ign:1 http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo trixie/main amd64 krita-data all 1:5.2.13+dfsg-1~mx25+1
Ign:2 http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo trixie/main amd64 krita-l10n all 1:5.2.13+dfsg-1~mx25+1
Err:3 http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo trixie/main amd64 krita amd64 1:5.2.13+dfsg-1~mx25+1
  404  Not Found [IP: 129.21.171.72 80]
Err:1 http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo trixie/main amd64 krita-data all 1:5.2.13+dfsg-1~mx25+1
  404  Not Found [IP: 129.21.171.72 80]
Err:2 http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo trixie/main amd64 krita-l10n all 1:5.2.13+dfsg-1~mx25+1
  404  Not Found [IP: 129.21.171.72 80]
Error: Failed to fetch http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/pool/main/k/krita/krita-data_5.2.13%2bdfsg-1%7emx25%2b1_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 129.21.171.72 80]
Error: Failed to fetch http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/pool/main/k/krita/krita-l10n_5.2.13%2bdfsg-1%7emx25%2b1_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 129.21.171.72 80]
Error: Failed to fetch http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/pool/main/k/krita/krita_5.2.13%2bdfsg-1%7emx25%2b1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 129.21.171.72 80]
Error: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?

[Jerry3904]

Confirmed, even using one of our own repos. Try waiting and then retry as maybe the mirrors are updating.

[Senpai]

Hi:
In MX-25 Fluxbox, two errors appear during startup with SysVinit that do not occur with SystemD. See attached image.
Best regards

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System:
  Kernel: 6.12.48+deb13-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 14.2.0 clocksource: kvm-clock
    avail: acpi_pm parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.12.48+deb13-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro
    quiet splash
  Desktop: Fluxbox v: 1.3.7 with: tint2 tools: avail: light-locker vt: 7 dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0
    Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 13 (trixie)
Machine:
  Type: Kvm System: QEMU product: Standard PC (Q35 + ICH9, 2009) v: pc-q35-7.2
    serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 1 v: pc-q35-7.2 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: N/A model: N/A serial: N/A uuid: <superuser required> BIOS: SeaBIOS
    v: 1.16.2-debian-1.16.2-1 date: 04/01/2014
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 5 5500 bits: 64 type: SMP arch: Zen 3 gen: 3 level: v3 note: check
    built: 2021-22 process: TSMC n7 (7nm) family: 0x19 (25) model-id: 0x50 (80) stepping: 0
    microcode: 0xA500011
  Topology: cpus: 4x dies: 1 clusters: 1 cores: 1 smt: <unsupported> cache:
    L1: 4x 128 KiB (512 KiB) desc: d-1x64 KiB; i-1x64 KiB L2: 4x 512 KiB (2 MiB) desc: 1x512 KiB
    L3: 4x 16 MiB (64 MiB) desc: 1x16 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 3600 min/max: N/A cores: 1: 3600 2: 3600 3: 3600 4: 3600 bogomips: 28799
  Flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: indirect_target_selection status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Vulnerable: Safe RET, no microcode
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines; IBPB: conditional; IBRS_FW; STIBP: disabled; RSB
    filling; PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsa status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
  Type: vmscape status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Red Hat Virtio 1.0 GPU driver: virtio-pci v: 1 ports: active: Virtual-1 empty: none
    bus-ID: 00:01.0 chip-ID: 1af4:1050 class-ID: 0300
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.16 driver: X: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
    dri: swrast gpu: virtio-pci display-ID: :0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1280x800 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 338x211mm (13.31x8.31") s-diag: 398mm (15.69")
  Monitor-1: Virtual-1 model: QEMU Monitor built: 2014 res: mode: 1280x800 hz: 75 scale: 100% (1)
    dpi: 100 gamma: 1.2 size: 325x203mm (12.8x7.99") diag: 383mm (15.1") ratio: 16:10 modes:
    max: 1280x800 min: 640x480
  API: EGL v: 1.5 platforms: device: 0 drv: kms_swrast device: 1 drv: swrast gbm: drv: kms_swrast
    surfaceless: drv: kms_swrast x11: drv: swrast inactive: wayland
  API: OpenGL v: 4.5 vendor: mesa v: 25.0.7-2 glx-v: 1.4 direct-render: yes renderer: llvmpipe
    (LLVM 19.1.7 256 bits) device-ID: ffffffff:ffffffff memory: 3.74 GiB unified: yes
  Info: Tools: api: eglinfo,glxinfo x11: xdriinfo, xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 82801I HD Audio vendor: Red Hat QEMU Virtual Machine driver: snd_hda_intel
    v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:293e class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.12.48+deb13-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.4.5 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Red Hat Virtio 1.0 network driver: virtio-pci v: 1 pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s
    lanes: 1 port: N/A bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 1af4:1041 class-ID: 0200
  IF-ID-1: eth0 state: up speed: -1 duplex: unknown mac: <filter>
  Info: services: NetworkManager,smbd
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 20 GiB used: 7.98 GiB (39.9%)
  ID-1: /dev/vda maj-min: 254:0 model: N/A size: 20 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
    logical: 512 B speed: <unknown> tech: N/A serial: N/A scheme: MBR
  SMART Message: Unknown smartctl error. Unable to generate data.
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 20 GiB size: 19.52 GiB (97.59%) used: 7.98 GiB (40.9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/vda1
    maj-min: 254:1
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) zswap: no
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 2 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
  Src: lm-sensors+/sys Message: No sensor data found using /sys/class/hwmon or lm-sensors.
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 1965 libs: 948 tools: apt, apt-get, aptitude, nala, synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.sources
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ trixie main  contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ trixie-security main  contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    3: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ trixie-updates  main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.sources
    1: deb http://ftp.cica.es/mirrors/Linux/MX-Packages/mx/repo/ trixie main  non-free
Info:
  Memory: total: 4 GiB available: 3.83 GiB used: 668.5 MiB (17.0%)
  Processes: 215 Power: uptime: 10m states: freeze,mem,disk suspend: s2idle wakeups: 0
    hibernate: shutdown avail: reboot,suspend,test_resume image: 1.47 GiB Init: SysVinit v: 3.14
    runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: service
  Compilers: gcc: 14.2.0 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.37-release inxi: 3.3.38
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)

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------------ Thu Sep 25 11:15:51 CEST 2025 ------------
rootMX25: clean, 260927/1310720 files, 2176626/5242368 blocks

INIT: version 3.14 booting


INIT: No inittab.d directory found

Using makefile-style concurrent boot in runlevel S.
Starting hotplug events dispatcher: systemd-udevd.
Synthesizing the initial hotplug events (subsystems)...done.
Synthesizing the initial hotplug events (devices)...done.
Waiting for /dev to be fully populated...done.
Setting up keyboard layout...done.
Cannot persist initramfs fsck.log ... failed!
Cleaning up temporary files... /tmp.
Checking file systems...Cannot persist the following output on disc ... failed!
done.
Loading kernel modules...done.
Mounting local filesystems...done.
Activating swapfile swap, if any...done.
Cleaning up temporary files....
Starting Setting kernel variables: sysctl.
Configuring network interfaces in background... done.
Starting RPC port mapper daemon: rpcbind.
Starting firewall: ufw...Setting kernel variables (/etc/ufw/sysctl.conf)...done.
Starting NFS common utilities: statd idmapd.
Cleaning up temporary files....
Setting sensors limits...No sensors found!
Make sure you loaded all the kernel drivers you need.
Try sensors-detect to find out which these are.
No sensors found!
Make sure you loaded all the kernel drivers you need.
Try sensors-detect to find out which these are.
done.
Setting up X socket directories... /tmp/.X11-unix /tmp/.ICE-unix.
Setting up ALSA...

[dolphin_oracle]

hello dolphin_oracle

hello dave
Brightness ... slider ...tray
Agreed. tray slider not connected to software brightness action.
xfce mx-tweak, Display, the slider has action. tray no action.

thank you perfect diagnostic.

[timkb4cq]

Getting weird 404s on the beta repos...

Corrected on our *.mxrepo.com repositories. Third party mirrors will update on their normal schedules.

[Freja]

hello dolphin_oracle
hello berlin59, " the gui for packages in synaptic.
It doesn't show the active repos."

requires package <software-properties-gtk>
no stable candidate <software-properties-gtk>

I heard debian trixie discontinued software-properties-common.

[kwg]

an update to mx-ease-themes_25.09.03 with galculator fixes should come through shortly...

Thanks, @Melber! It looks great!

[dolphin_oracle]

hello dolphin_oracle
hello berlin59, " the gui for packages in synaptic.
It doesn't show the active repos."

requires package <software-properties-gtk>
no stable candidate <software-properties-gtk>

I heard debian trixie discontinued software-properties-common.

doesn't matter anyway, that does not enable viewing *.sources files.