MX Devs: Do you think the Linux ecosystem is getting worse?

[rambo919]

but also the most turbulent time for everything under the hood of Linux going on at the same time and this will be felt by some people after they make the switch and how well the mainline Distros handle this and insulate the User will be vital in keeping whatever migration may happen.

My personal main concern is how I can't not see how the freedom part of Linux is being hijacked by corporate and government concerns as they themselves are moving away from Windows. I know how to navigate the turbulence of software change per se otherwise I would not even BE on Linux.

The main problem for any perspective new Linux user is how everyone and his friend is politicizing the software as far left as they possibly can and pretending it's the "far right" that's doing it..... not only is this leading to worse software as people get angry at each other and fight instead of contribute or ban ideological competitors from participating, it's bound to signal "these people are NUTS and tearing each other apart why would I want to be here?".

"This distro is trans all transphobes are evil and should be attacked wherever we find them", "we are a political organization", "we must be an international revolutionary front", etc it IS nuts atm out there, no point in even trying to deny how nuts it's gotten. We can't even use the excuse that corporations can that "this is the trend we are riding for ESG by pretending to care and instituting quota's etc". Everyone is drawing battle lines and pretending not to.

The funny thing is no one has to actually care what Lunduke thinks... all you have to do is notice who goes into virtual seizures at the mention of his name to know that is someone unstable who should be treated with great care to prevent violent outbursts or getting randomly banned for being a "lunduke sympathizer" or something. He's become very useful that way especially given that such people very likely don't even KNOW what he thinks at this point nvm being able to refute him.

[Melber]

and the normalisation continues...

[rokytnji.1]

As long as there are choices. I am good with it.

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[FullScale4Me]

@rambo919

This seems (to me) to be toeing the line on veering to a political discussion. As a long time poster, you are aware of that rule. There are other places for this type of politically 'salted' content.

Generally, I find it fatiguing to have to read past this stuff to get to the useful content. I prefer neutral over a well intended someone on the internet helping me with a well-formed but politically 'salted' opinion piece. I avoid TV network news from all with 3 letter names for the same reason.

[jj 5117]

@rambo919

That problem only existed here now.
If you really want to keep it out of the Linux world, don't bring it to it.

[siamhie]

If you want this thread to continue, please tone down the rhetoric.


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[rambo919]

@rambo919

That problem only existed here now.
If you really want to keep it out of the Linux world, don't bring it to it.

The irony is that kind of attitude guarantee's it gets brought into the Linux world by the radicals that want to ensure it is. Fence sitting only actually works if no one is trying to push you off of it or undermining the fence itself. Avoiding going to the doctor does nothing to stave off the reality of a problem.

That is why things will continue to get only worse over time regardless of how anyone feels about it.

[rambo919]

@rambo919

This seems (to me) to be toeing the line on veering to a political discussion. As a long time poster, you are aware of that rule. There are other places for this type of politically 'salted' content.

Generally, I find it fatiguing to have to read past this stuff to get to the useful content. I prefer neutral over a well intended someone on the internet helping me with a well-formed but politically 'salted' opinion piece. I avoid TV network news from all with 3 letter names for the same reason.

All I can do is warn of the danger, it's up to individuals whether they choose to notice it or not. Don't think I am indulging in anything for the sake of emotional gratification. These problems are only going to get worse because they are avoided, like festering wounds that leads to the limb rotting off.

[rambo919]

If you want this thread to continue, please tone down the rhetoric.

Rules of these forums

That would go down a whole lot better if it applied equally to everyone in practice.... its as if people think no one notices the bias because threads instead of people are punished for the most part. But speaking for myself I will stop participating in this one now.

[Eadwine Rose]

If it's gonna go that way, then it is gonna go this way: Topic locked.