dancing mouse

[rockyiii]

i bought a new mouse and it does not work very well with my my linux... the cursor moves and "dances" some times even so i do not touch the mouse.

i tried:

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In case you'd like to turn back to (the good old) Synaptics :

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sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/30-touchpad-libinput.conf{,.old} ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics -y

Reboot and try.

but this does not help this time.
What else could i try?
Thanks

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System:
  Kernel: 6.8.12-1-liquorix-amd64 [6.8-18~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.8.12-1-liquorix-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro
    quiet splash
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.0 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.38 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.20.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0 Distro: MX-23.6_x64 Libretto January 21  2024 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 20AUS0NE00 v: ThinkPad L540 serial: <superuser required>
    Chassis: type: 10 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: LENOVO model: 20AUS0NE00 serial: <superuser required> UEFI-[Legacy]: LENOVO
    v: J4ET93WW(1.93) date: 05/30/2018
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 43.8 Wh (100.0%) condition: 43.8/47.5 Wh (92.2%) volts: 12.4 min: 10.8
    model: LGC 45N1161 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: full
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core i5-4200M bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Haswell gen: core 4 level: v3
    note: check built: 2013-15 process: Intel 22nm family: 6 model-id: 0x3C (60) stepping: 3
    microcode: 0x28
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 tpc: 2 threads: 4 smt: enabled cache: L1: 128 KiB
    desc: d-2x32 KiB; i-2x32 KiB L2: 512 KiB desc: 2x256 KiB L3: 3 MiB desc: 1x3 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1197 min/max: 800/2501 boost: enabled scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq
    governor: ondemand cores: 1: 1197 2: 1197 3: 1197 4: 1197 bogomips: 19953
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines; IBPB: conditional; IBRS_FW; STIBP: conditional; RSB
    filling; PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
  Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel
    arch: Gen-7.5 process: Intel 22nm built: 2013 ports: active: DP-4,DP-5,eDP-1 empty: DP-1, DP-2,
    DP-3, HDMI-A-1, HDMI-A-2, VGA-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0416 class-ID: 0300
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.20.0 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: crocus gpu: i915 display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3600x1800 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 953x477mm (37.52x18.78") s-diag: 1066mm (41.96")
  Monitor-1: not-matched mapped: DP-2-2 pos: top-right res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 69
    size: 708x398mm (27.87x15.67") diag: 812mm (31.98") modes: N/A
  Monitor-2: not-matched mapped: DP-2-3 pos: middle-l res: 1680x1050 hz: 60 dpi: 90
    size: 473x296mm (18.62x11.65") diag: 558mm (21.97") modes: N/A
  Monitor-3: eDP-1 pos: primary,bottom-c model: LG Display 0x038e built: 2013 res: 1280x720
    hz: 60 dpi: 95 gamma: 1.2 size: 344x194mm (13.54x7.64") diag: 395mm (15.5") ratio: 16:9
    modes: 1366x768
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 4600 (HSW GT2)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio vendor: Lenovo
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:03.0 chip-ID: 8086:0c0c class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo 8
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:8c20 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.8.12-1-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,alsamixergui,amixer
  Server-1: JACK v: 1.9.21 status: off tools: jack_control,qjackctl
  Server-2: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: off with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: off 2: wireplumber
    status: off tools: pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
  Server-3: PulseAudio v: 16.1 status: active with: pulseaudio-jack type: module
    tools: pacat,pactl,pavucontrol
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Ethernet I217-V vendor: Lenovo driver: e1000e v: kernel port: 5060
    bus-ID: 00:19.0 chip-ID: 8086:153b class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Intel Wireless 7260 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel modules: wl pcie: gen: 1
    speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:08b2 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
  IF-ID-1: wwan0 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel Bluetooth wireless interface type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 3-11:8
    chip-ID: 8087:07dc class-ID: e001
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 3 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.0
    sub-v: 500 hci-v: 4.0 rev: 500
  Info: acl-mtu: 1021:5 sco-mtu: 96:5 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff
    link-mode: peripheral accept
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 5.47 TiB used: 4.5 TiB (82.3%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 type: USB vendor: Seagate model: Expansion SW size: 4.55 TiB
    block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 1901 scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 type: USB vendor: Intenso model: Rainbow Line size: 14.57 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 1.00 scheme: MBR
  SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
  ID-3: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 vendor: SanDisk model: SSD PLUS 1000GB size: 931.51 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 7100
    scheme: MBR
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 861.77 GiB size: 847.17 GiB (98.31%) used: 798.27 GiB (94.2%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sdc6 maj-min: 8:38
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 9.74 GiB used: 5.22 GiB (53.6%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/sdc5
    maj-min: 8:37
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 56.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 fan-2: 0
Repos:
  Packages: 4338 pm: dpkg pkgs: 4268 libs: 2339
    tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,gnome-software,nala,synaptic pm: rpm pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 70
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/freedownloadmanager.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64 signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/freedownloadmanager.gpg] https://debrepo.freedownloadmanager.org/ jammy main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/librewolf.sources
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Info:
  Processes: 402 Uptime: 4h 4m wakeups: 2 Memory: 7.48 GiB used: 6.75 GiB (90.2%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)

[j2mcgreg]

If this new mouse is a Logi M220 Silent Touch, you are not alone. Mine works perfectly when connected to my thirteen year old Acer Aspire V5 (Intel chipset), but its unusable on my much newer HP 15 and 17 (Ryzen based).

[siamhie]

i bought a new mouse and it does not work very well with my my linux... the cursor moves and "dances" some times even so i do not touch the mouse.

What's the brand and model of the mouse?

[Jakob77]

I would try to put it on another surface, and unplug other USB-devices and maybe try another USB-port.
All that is hopefully after I did try to give the mouse a new battery. ;-)

[Stevo]

Also make sure it's not dancing because the touchpad is accidentally being brushed by a finger while you're typing--I would do that all the time.

[Albie]

Is it a hard wired mouse to a USB port?. I f not is it a wireless mouse and further is it a bluetooth mouse ?.. Do you have bluetooth on your Pc / dongle?..or is it a wireless 2.4
type again into USB dongle .. more common ?
Windows Pcs have sensitivty controls ..but this is linux and much can be found ..using + googling " mouse sensitivity linux " follow your nose and eyes there.
If a bluetooth mouse make sure that no active bluetooth gadgets/phones etc are disabled in the area/rooms where you are .give a try. good luck

[m_pav]

I've seen that many times in the past and it was always the quality of the mouse, typically with a 400dpi resolution. I found it very prevalent with the Genuis brand and while Linux based systems were a little more sensitive to the phenomenon, all computer OS's available at the time would experience this dancing cursor, just less frequently and it often carried a cursor slowly walking across the screen when the mouse was stationary.

To my way of understanding, the fibres on the mousing surface caused the laser to refract, rather than reflect and the laser pickup was getting too much information causing it to think the mouse was always moving, hence, the appearance of the cursor dancing on the display. The manufacturers could have put in a better filter to detect scattered particles, but it's evident they did not or their pickup assy vs their sampling rate was a bad match.

I have much to say on this matter, but to cut a long story short, get another mouse, just not the same brand/model, and see if you can find a 600-1000dpi model, they typically have superior hardware and firmware to produce a much better service and tractability over the devices lifetime. Saving $10-20 on the cost of a cheap mouse only to get this type of hassle is not a saving at all.

[gimcrack]

I had this happen to me once. The mouse just rides up to the top and when I try to bring it down. I can move it half way down and then creeps back to the top. I had a joystick plug in, when I unplug the joystick. My mouse was operating just fine. Never found out what causes it. But I just make sure I have my joystick unplug when not in used.

[Mauser]

I had the same thing happen with an off brand mouse that came with a keyboard for my Desktop computer and tried it on my Acer Laptop computer with the same results. I replaced the mouse with a different brand and model which corrected the issues. Currently I use a Logitech USB wired mouse which which works great on my Desktop and Laptop computers but since Logitech decided to make the model number of the mouse written with such a small font I am unable to tell you the model number of the mouse I use even with wearing glasses and using a magnifying glass. I might be able to read it if I had an electron microscope which I do not posses. To narrow down the issue you are having with your mouse you can try a different make or model mouse to see if that corrects it or disclose your make and model mouse if possible or try that mouse on a different computer to see if the problem still persists. Anything less it's just a guessing game in this thread on what is causing the issue. I find that the less buttons a mouse has, the less possibility of trouble it gives.

[rockyiii]

thanks for all your useful hints. I think i will get my self an other mouse - letś hope that this one will work better :-)