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LU344928
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Which liquorix kernel should I choose?

#1 Post by LU344928 »

Hello friends,

I think it's the liquorix kernel I need. My six-year old laptop, my daily workstation on which HDMI ran perfectly, recently stopped working so now I'm using this smaller one I bought about a year ago. I got it mainly as a backup and to take with me when I travel so I've hardly used it. Didn't take long to discover that HDMI doesn't work at all (MX 23 KDE).

Then the other day when I was working on a live usb (Xfce) I got the idea to try HDMI to see what would happen and it worked, no sound though, only picture. I'm hoping if I can get it to work on KDE there will be sound.

Looking closer I noticed the different kernels:

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inxi -S
System:
  Host: mx Kernel: 6.1.0-25-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.5 Distro: MX-23.4_KDE_x64 Libretto September 15  2024

inxi -S
System:
  Host: mx1 Kernel: 6.10.10-1-liquorix-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 Distro: MX-23.4_ahs_x64 Libretto September 15  2024


In MXPI Liquorix 6.10.11-2 seems to be the one to go with, right?

Or is there another cause altogether?

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System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-25-amd64 [6.1.106-3] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-25-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.5 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 7 dm: SDDM Distro: MX-23.4_KDE_x64 Libretto
    September 15 2024 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Acer product: Aspire AL14-31P v: V1.05 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Hibiki model: ADN v: V1.05 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: INSYDE v: 1.05
    date: 11/16/2023
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 45.6 Wh (100.0%) condition: 45.6/45.6 Wh (100.0%) volts: 8.6 min: N/A
    model: WB SR 1 WB Lion Battery type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: full
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel N100 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Alder Lake level: v3 note: check built: 2021+
    process: Intel 7 (10nm ESF) family: 6 model-id: 0xBE (190) stepping: 0 microcode: 0x17
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 4 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 384 KiB desc: d-4x32 KiB; i-4x64 KiB
    L2: 2 MiB desc: 1x2 MiB L3: 6 MiB desc: 1x6 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 700 min/max: 700/3400 scaling: driver: intel_pstate governor: powersave
    cores: 1: 700 2: 700 3: 700 4: 700 bogomips: 6451
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling mitigation: Clear Register File
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced / Automatic IBRS; IBPB: conditional; RSB filling;
    PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: BHI_DIS_S
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Alder Lake-N [UHD Graphics] vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: i915 v: kernel
    arch: Gen-12.2 process: Intel 10nm built: 2021-22+ ports: active: eDP-1 empty: DP-1
    bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:46d1 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: Sunplus Innovation Hy FHD B200 Came type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-7:3
    chip-ID: 1bcf:28c5 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter>
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 with: Xwayland v: 22.1.9 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915 display-ID: :0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1200 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x317mm (20.00x12.48") s-diag: 599mm (23.57")
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 model-id: KDB 0x0818 built: 2023 res: 1920x1200 hz: 60 dpi: 161 gamma: 1.2
    size: 302x189mm (11.89x7.44") diag: 356mm (14") ratio: 16:10 modes: 1920x1200
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 23.1.2-1~mx23ahs renderer: Mesa Intel Graphics (ADL-N)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    alternate: snd_sof_pci_intel_tgl bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:54c8 class-ID: 0401
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-25-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Intel driver: iwlwifi v: kernel modules: wl port: N/A bus-ID: 00:14.3
    chip-ID: 8086:54f0 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel Bluetooth 9460/9560 Jefferson Peak (JfP) type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8
    bus-ID: 1-10:4 chip-ID: 8087:0aaa class-ID: e001
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 3 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 3.0 lmp-v: 5.1
    sub-v: 3097 hci-v: 5.1 rev: 3097
  Info: acl-mtu: 1021:4 sco-mtu: 96:6 link-policy: rswitch sniff link-mode: peripheral accept
    service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio, telephony
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 476.94 GiB used: 100.51 GiB (21.1%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 model: RS512GSSD510 size: 476.94 GiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: W0428A0
    temp: 40.9 C scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 476.69 GiB size: 468.13 GiB (98.21%) used: 100.51 GiB (21.5%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 274 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 3 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 35.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2819 libs: 1560 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala pm: rpm pkgs: 0
    pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64 signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/brave-browser-archive-keyring.gpg] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/librewolf.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] http://deb.librewolf.net bookworm main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb https://mirror.kku.ac.th/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb https://mirror.kku.ac.th/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
Info:
  Processes: 194 Uptime: 27m wakeups: 1878 Memory: 7.49 GiB used: 1.77 GiB (23.7%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI
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Machine: Type: Laptop System: Acer product: Aspire AL14-31P
Distro: MX-23.6_KDE_x64 Libretto

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Re: Which liquorix kernel should I choose?

#2 Post by siamhie »

When was the last time you updated the system? We are on 23.6 now.

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Re: Which liquorix kernel should I choose?

#3 Post by LU344928 »

siamhie wrote: Thu May 29, 2025 5:30 pm When was the last time you updated the system? We are on 23.6 now.
Some weeks ago I tried an update thru the terminal but it broke the system and wouldn't boot so I reverted to a snapshot which I made end of Dec.
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Re: Which liquorix kernel should I choose?

#4 Post by CharlesV »

Frankly, 6.10 liquorix had some issues, I would either run 6.9, 6.11 or 6.12. ( Personally, I would go with 6.12 )

6.9 fixed quite a few issues with sound and video.
6.11 also added better support for sound and video as well as more.
And I have all my machines on 6.12 which works excellent, and none of the issue I ran into on 6.14
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Re: Which liquorix kernel should I choose?

#5 Post by siamhie »

LU344928 wrote: Thu May 29, 2025 5:50 pm
siamhie wrote: Thu May 29, 2025 5:30 pm When was the last time you updated the system? We are on 23.6 now.
Some weeks ago I tried an update thru the terminal but it broke the system and wouldn't boot so I reverted to a snapshot which I made end of Dec.
Have you tried updating KDE using MX Package Installer? Open the program and go to the Enabled Repos tab and look for the update button at the bottom.
This is my Fluxbox . There are many others like it, but this one is mine. My Fluxbox is my best friend. It is my life.
I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my Fluxbox is useless. Without my Fluxbox, I am useless.

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Re: Which liquorix kernel should I choose?

#6 Post by kmathern »

LU344928 wrote: Thu May 29, 2025 5:08 pm

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System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-25-amd64 [6.1.106-3] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-25-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.5 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 7 dm: SDDM Distro: MX-23.4_KDE_x64 Libretto
    September 15 2024 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Acer product: Aspire AL14-31P v: V1.05 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Hibiki model: ADN v: V1.05 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: INSYDE v: 1.05
    date: 11/16/2023
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel N100 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Alder Lake level: v3 note: check built: 2021+
    process: Intel 7 (10nm ESF) family: 6 model-id: 0xBE (190) stepping: 0 microcode: 0x17
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 4 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 384 KiB desc: d-4x32 KiB; i-4x64 KiB
    L2: 2 MiB desc: 1x2 MiB L3: 6 MiB desc: 1x6 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 700 min/max: 700/3400 scaling: driver: intel_pstate governor: powersave
    cores: 1: 700 2: 700 3: 700 4: 700 bogomips: 6451

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Network:
  Device-1: Intel driver: iwlwifi v: kernel modules: wl port: N/A bus-ID: 00:14.3
    chip-ID: 8086:54f0 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>

Note: I didn't quote your entire post, I snipped out parts of it.

I also have a Intel N100 based mini-pc (a Beelink EQ12). I've been using the MX-23.x AHS versions with the EQ12. I think I started with 23.1-ahs, I remember it had a 6.5 series kernel. I don't think wifi worked for me on 23.1-ahs with it's 6.5 kernel, but I was using a wired connection most of the time anyway. Pretty much had everything working starting with the 6.7 Liquorix kernels. Actually I'm kind of surprised your wifi works with the stock 6.1 Debian kernel, but it looks like it does from the QSI you posted.

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Re: Which liquorix kernel should I choose?

#7 Post by LU344928 »

CharlesV wrote: Thu May 29, 2025 6:10 pm Frankly, 6.10 liquorix had some issues, I would either run 6.9, 6.11 or 6.12. ( Personally, I would go with 6.12 )

6.9 fixed quite a few issues with sound and video.
6.11 also added better support for sound and video as well as more.
And I have all my machines on 6.12 which works excellent, and none of the issue I ran into on 6.14
Thanks CharlesV.
Machine: Type: Laptop System: Acer product: Aspire AL14-31P
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Re: Which liquorix kernel should I choose?

#8 Post by LU344928 »

siamhie wrote: Thu May 29, 2025 7:26 pm
LU344928 wrote: Thu May 29, 2025 5:50 pm
siamhie wrote: Thu May 29, 2025 5:30 pm When was the last time you updated the system? We are on 23.6 now.
Some weeks ago I tried an update thru the terminal but it broke the system and wouldn't boot so I reverted to a snapshot which I made end of Dec.
Have you tried updating KDE using MX Package Installer? Open the program and go to the Enabled Repos tab and look for the update button at the bottom.
No I haven't. Would that be preferable to what CharlesV suggested above?

Thanks.
Machine: Type: Laptop System: Acer product: Aspire AL14-31P
Distro: MX-23.6_KDE_x64 Libretto

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Re: Which liquorix kernel should I choose?

#9 Post by LU344928 »

kmathern wrote: Thu May 29, 2025 9:44 pm I also have a Intel N100 based mini-pc (a Beelink EQ12). I've been using the MX-23.x AHS versions with the EQ12. I think I started with 23.1-ahs, I remember it had a 6.5 series kernel. I don't think wifi worked for me on 23.1-ahs with it's 6.5 kernel, but I was using a wired connection most of the time anyway. Pretty much had everything working starting with the 6.7 Liquorix kernels. Actually I'm kind of surprised your wifi works with the stock 6.1 Debian kernel, but it looks like it does from the QSI you posted.
Yes, never had any issues with the wifi.
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Re: Which liquorix kernel should I choose?

#10 Post by siamhie »

LU344928 wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 3:06 pm
siamhie wrote: Thu May 29, 2025 7:26 pm
LU344928 wrote: Thu May 29, 2025 5:50 pm

Some weeks ago I tried an update thru the terminal but it broke the system and wouldn't boot so I reverted to a snapshot which I made end of Dec.
Have you tried updating KDE using MX Package Installer? Open the program and go to the Enabled Repos tab and look for the update button at the bottom.
No I haven't. Would that be preferable to what CharlesV suggested above?

Thanks.
@LU344928 CharlesV is talking about upgrading the kernels. I wanted to know if we can get your system to upgrade.
I don't know what commands you ran in the terminal, so the next best thing was to use the package installer to upgrade the system.
This is my Fluxbox . There are many others like it, but this one is mine. My Fluxbox is my best friend. It is my life.
I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my Fluxbox is useless. Without my Fluxbox, I am useless.

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