uefi-manager?

[Utopia]

String 17 in uefi-manager:
Starts with creating an EFI boot entry and then: To boot using the created UEFI entry...
Is that correct? Expected an EFI entry there.
Henry

[fehlix]

String 17 in uefi-manager:
Starts with creating an EFI boot entry and then: To boot using the created UEFI entry...
Is that correct? Expected an EFI entry there.
Henry

The full English text looks like this, with my manually added linebreaks:

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This option is meant to create a stub installer for MX and antiX frugal 
installation, it creates an EFI boot entry for launching the 
installation directly, bypassing GRUB and other bootloaders. To boot 
using the created UEFI entry, access the UEFI boot selection menu at 
startup by pressing the appropriate key for your device (e.g., F12, F9, 
or Esc, depending on the manufacturer).

So for me it sound right. It's meant that you can boot from this entry,
by selecting this entry from the "UEFI boot options" menu, here called "UEFI boot selection menu".
But I'm not English so not sure whether this is clear enough or even proper English.

[Utopia]

Thanks, so the EFI entry is only for the installer?
Henry

[fehlix]

Thanks, so the EFI entry is only for the installer?
Henry

The UEFI manger will create for both the EFIstub tab and the EFI Frugal tab, bootable entries
which will show up at boot when access the UEFI boot options/selection menu (with any of the Fn-key combos)
So in this sense the start of the sentence
This option is meant to create a stub installer for MX and antiX frugal ...

is a bit misleading, b//c it does not create a EFI "stub installer",
but a (U)EFI bootable entry.. which in EFI-talk is known as EFIstub entry.
So the the word "installer" is misleading.
After pressing install, a new bootable (U)EFI entry will be generated and saved into the NVRAM.
So their is nothing to do anymore to install as a "stub installer" may implicate.
In this sense, the sentence needs to be read (maybe adjusted) as something like
This option is meant to create a EFIstub boot entry for MX and antiX frugal ...

Hope that makes more sense...

[fehlix]

Just looking through the strings. Those guys:

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5 persist_all
6 persist_root
7 persist_static
8 persist_static_root
9 persist_home

are boot options for persistence and are not meant to get translated.
So we might remove those from the translation table.

[Adrian]

I will change that wording, I think that's what I wanted to say anyway, not sure how that become "a stub installer", maybe I initially wanted to describe the tool as a stub installer and when I added the rest of the tabs I modified that.
I will also remove those strings from translations, not sure how they got there.

[Utopia]

Great explanations, now I understand what it's doing.
Henry

[HHinMelburn]

A the risk of being accused of hijacking this thread & promoting heresy I am adding an opinion from the 'user level' and asking for some advice/clarification.
I managed to break GRUB and have not been able to restore/recover it.
I saw UEFI Manager and thought I'd give-it-a-go.
The tab "EFI stub installer" answered my needs.
Whether it 'installs' or 'creates a bootable entry' it does what I want and, from here, that looks like 'install'. = happy user ;-)
NOW, the possible heresy & advice:
My computer now boots very happily but I would like to use systemd and I do not see any way I may achieve that.
Is this likely to be because

• systemd is simply not an option through EFI Manager

• I have managed to break things sufficiently that systemd is not discoverable

Thanks . . .

[Adrian]

I think it's just a matter of adding init=systemd in the kernel options before you install the EFI stub...

[HHinMelburn]

Thanks Adrian, I'll invest a bit more time/effort into that.