Brave or any other browser besides Firefox....

[Rambo_Of_PA]

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System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-33-686-pae [6.1.133-1] arch: i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-6.1.0-33-686-pae root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
    resume=UUID=<filter> resume_offset=802816
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.0 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.38 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.20.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0 Distro: MX-23.6_386 Libretto October 15  2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP 2000 Notebook PC v: 0686120000204A10000620100
    serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 3577 v: 24.49 serial: <superuser required> BIOS: Hewlett-Packard
    v: F.47 date: 12/17/2011
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: N/A condition: N/A volts: N/A model: HP type: Li-ion serial: N/A
    status: not charging
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse serial: <filter>
    charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: discharging
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD E-450 APU with Radeon HD Graphics bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Bobcat level: v1
    built: 2011-13 process: GF 40nm family: 0x14 (20) model-id: 2 stepping: 0 microcode: 0x5000119
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 128 KiB desc: d-2x32 KiB; i-2x32 KiB
    L2: 1024 KiB desc: 2x512 KiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1070 high: 1317 min/max: 825/1650 boost: disabled scaling:
    driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 823 2: 1317 bogomips: 6585
  Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines; STIBP: disabled; RSB filling; PBRSB-eIBRS: Not
    affected; BHI: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Wrestler [Radeon HD 6320] vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: radeon v: kernel
    alternate: amdgpu arch: TeraScale-2 code: Evergreen process: TSMC 32-40nm built: 2009-15 ports:
    active: LVDS-1 empty: HDMI-A-1,VGA-1 bus-ID: 00:01.0 chip-ID: 1002:9806 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: Microdia HP Integrated Webcam type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 2-2:2
    chip-ID: 0c45:6321 class-ID: 0e02
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.20.0 driver: X: loaded: radeon
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: r600 gpu: radeon display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 362x204mm (14.25x8.03") s-diag: 416mm (16.36")
  Monitor-1: LVDS-1 mapped: LVDS model: Seiko Epson 0x315a built: 2012 res: 1366x768 hz: 60
    dpi: 101 gamma: 1.2 size: 344x194mm (13.54x7.64") diag: 395mm (15.5") ratio: 16:9 modes:
    max: 1366x768 min: 640x480
  API: OpenGL v: 4.5 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: AMD PALM (DRM 2.50.0 / 6.1.0-33-686-pae LLVM 15.0.6)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD SBx00 Azalia vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    bus-ID: 00:14.2 chip-ID: 1002:4383 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-33-686-pae status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: r8169
    v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: 2000 bus-ID: 06:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8136
    class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Broadcom BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Hewlett-Packard
    driver: wl v: kernel modules: bcma pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 07:00.0
    chip-ID: 14e4:4727 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
  Device-3: Realtek RTL8153 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter type: USB driver: r8152 bus-ID: 1-3:3
    chip-ID: 0bda:8153 class-ID: 0000 serial: <filter>
  IF: eth1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 16.41 GiB (3.5%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Seagate model: ST9500325AS size: 465.76 GiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter> rev: HPM1
    scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 464.74 GiB size: 456.38 GiB (98.20%) used: 16.32 GiB (3.6%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/dm-0 maj-min: 253:0 mapped: luks-<filter>
  ID-2: /boot raw-size: 1024 MiB size: 973.4 MiB (95.06%) used: 96.9 MiB (10.0%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 5.48 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 57.4 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 57.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2147 libs: 1077 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
Info:
  Processes: 209 Uptime: 19m wakeups: 4 Memory: 3.48 GiB used: 1.36 GiB (39.0%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)

Cannot find any info on installing Brave or any other browser. Firefox on my system is a resource hog and would like to replace it with one that may be faster if there is one. Please advise. Thanks!

[chrispop99]

Use the Popular Applications tab of the Package Installer to choose from (I think) 11 other browsers.

To help you in the future, the User Manual contains the information you needed to find this, and a lot more.

Chris

[Adrian]

All browsers are resource hogs especially if you have multiple tabs open and multiple extensions installed, Chrome based browsers are actually heavier in my experience...

[fehlix]

Cannot find any info on installing Brave or any other browser. Firefox on my system is a resource hog and would like to replace it with one that may be faster if there is one. Please advise. Thanks!

Don't think Brave is available for 32bit.

A quick mem consumption check an freshly booted ISO MX-23.6 32bit:
with installed browser from listed entries with MXPI->Pop.Apps->Browser:

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sudo ps_mem.py | grep -E 'firefox|palemoon|chromium|falkon'
112.8 MiB + -209.5 KiB = 112.5 MiB	palemoon
128.4 MiB +  22.2 MiB = 150.5 MiB	falkon
213.4 MiB +  78.4 MiB = 291.8 MiB	firefox-esr (8)
129.0 MiB + 179.1 MiB = 308.1 MiB	chromium (9)
267.5 MiB +  69.0 MiB = 336.6 MiB	firefox-bin (9)

and on a 64bit MX installation, manually additionally installed mullvad-browser:

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sudo ps_mem.py | grep -iE 'librewolf|firefox|mullvadbrowser|palemoon|chromium'
145.0 MiB +   1.2 MiB = 146.2 MiB	palemoon
277.1 MiB +  81.3 MiB = 358.4 MiB	mullvadbrowser.real (8)
285.7 MiB +  91.7 MiB = 377.4 MiB	firefox-esr (8)
232.5 MiB + 222.2 MiB = 454.7 MiB	chromium (10)
376.0 MiB + 102.8 MiB = 478.8 MiB	firefox-bin (9)
401.5 MiB + 100.6 MiB = 502.1 MiB	librewolf (9)

All with empty or nearly empty start/blank page.Palemoon therefore seems to use less memory than most others.
I missed to install falkon on 64bit, though.

[Rambo_Of_PA]

All browsers are resource hogs especially if you have multiple tabs open and multiple extensions installed, Chrome based browsers are actually heavier in my experience...

Some more than others though....I installed Falkon and it seems to be a lot faster than Firefox and Chromium....Thanks everyone for helping out....greatly appreciated....

[txm0523]

Brave browser is such a resource hog. When I use the Bleachbit app after browsing the internet, I notice that if I use Brave browser, it has about 3 to 4 times more cache to clean that Firefox. I tried other browsers, but Firefox seems to work best with just about all websites. I have used Seamonkey, Icecat, Opera, Vivaldi, Libre Wolf, etc, etc. All those other browsers seem to have some quirk that I can't log into some sites. But Firefox always works. ( knock on wood )

[django013]

brave is indeed not available for 32bit systems,

but I wonder, why u use a 32bit os with a 64bit grafic card ...

I read about brave in this forum some time ago.
Since then, I replaced firefox and I the only usecase where I stil use firefox is watching videos in fullscreen.
Videoplayer of brave does not support a video window resized to 3 monitors.

respect to resource hog:
When I start brave, it tells me, that it saved me 6,6 GB downloading rubbish and saved me 3,5 hours waiting for bull.sh.it ...

You can get brave from: https://brave.com/linux/

P.S.: I replaced the browser of my mobile phone and use brave too

[Pretty Vacant]

respect to resource hog:
When I start brave, it tells me, that it saved me 6,6 GB downloading rubbish and saved me 3,5 hours waiting for bull.sh.it ...

Better not believe that info. When using Brave use these settings https://www.privacyguides.org/en/deskto ... ers/#brave and UBO and a whole lot of crap wont be downloaded.
And https://www.kuketz-blog.de/einstellungen/#brave-desktop

UBO https://www.privacyguides.org/en/browse ... ock-origin

For FF https://www.privacyguides.org/en/deskto ... s/#firefox
https://www.kuketz-blog.de/brave-und-fi ... er-teil-2/

https://www.deepl.com/en/translator

Better not use Bleachbit.

[putih]

HP 2000 Notebook Laptop AMD E-450 1.65GHz 4GB RAM

You need upgrade RAM to 8gb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEaTV2LYX5Q

Modern lite browser is Firefox ESR 115. i think
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/desktop-esr/


This CPU spec better stay with MX 21.x supported until June 2026

[kc1di]

Midori is very lite browser , but won't do everything.
But I use Vivaldi 90% of the time