startpar services returned failure: tlp sysstat failed. KDE doesnt start after enabling root account

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Eadwine Rose
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Re: startpar services returned failure: tlp sysstat failed. KDE doesnt start after enabling root account

#31 Post by Eadwine Rose »

Share the full QSI so we can better see what is going on with your system.

And be glad people have been willing to help you this far.
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Re: startpar services returned failure: tlp sysstat failed. KDE doesnt start after enabling root account

#32 Post by samegold »

fehlix wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:26 am
Don't thing changing the password of the root-account is the cause of the issue.
I guess rather somehow is related to the first issue mentioned with the other thread, where you suddenly have been forced
to enter into "Maintanaince mode", which you couldn't do without a root password.
sorry, i dont know what you mean. that never happened. all i did was switching kernels, but that was a long time before the problem happened. i got the idea from you that enabling root would be a good thing, so i gave root a password in mx-user manager, clicked apply, and thats it. after reboot no more KDE, no more access to home-folder.
fehlix wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:26 am So giving blind advises without analyzing the cause of the issue may not help or maybe misleading.
sure, but better misleading than nothing i guess, since sometimes it cant really get worse. also nobody is stopping you from analyzing the cause, thats what the forum is for (supposedly). except of course you dont want to, which is fair enough :-)
fehlix wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:26 am Also note: Using the term "Home" folder is potentially misleading (and confusing) by it's own,
b/c you can call "/home" directory a "Home folder", but you can also call "/home/samegold" the Home folder f the user "samegold".
And note also the, "/home" directory is properly owned by root but readable by all users, in oder they have access to
the subfolders to find their "home". And further root's "Home folder is not under /home but is "/root".
And yes, trying to GUI-login or autologin as root may not work. KDE will probably not work under root-account.
yes, my wording may be not precise, im still working on it :-) but i thought in this context it was clear that i mean the home folder that contains /downloads /pictures /documents, etc...
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Re: startpar services returned failure: tlp sysstat failed. KDE doesnt start after enabling root account

#33 Post by DukeComposed »

samegold wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 11:14 am sure, but better misleading than nothing i guess
When troubleshooting a problem, aim for as much clarity as you can. As How to Report Bugs Effectively says, "If the programmer can't tell what you meant, you might as well not have said anything."

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Re: startpar services returned failure: tlp sysstat failed. KDE doesnt start after enabling root account

#34 Post by siamhie »

samegold wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 11:14 am
fehlix wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:26 am So giving blind advises without analyzing the cause of the issue may not help or maybe misleading.
sure, but better misleading than nothing i guess, since sometimes it cant really get worse. also nobody is stopping you from analyzing the cause, thats what the forum is for (supposedly). except of course you dont want to, which is fair enough :-)
It goes both ways. You have been asked multiple times to post your QSI (in full), yet here we are on page four still scratching our heads.
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Re: startpar services returned failure: tlp sysstat failed. KDE doesnt start after enabling root account

#35 Post by samegold »

j2mcgreg wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 8:00 am @samegold
I think that the fact that Linux uses GiB as a memory measurement unit rather than GB which is used by Microsoft and all the manufacturers may have confused you. Read this for a good explanation:
https://massive.io/file-transfer/gb-vs- ... ifference/
no, it didnt "confuse" me, since it has absolutely nothing to do with the topic and the difference is marginal.
i was trying to point out that the home folder shows "0 Byte" in the properties tab of any filemanager, while in reality it has over 300GB.
df -h:
/dev/sdc1 411G 389G 22G 95% /media/sam/Samsung870@500GB
DukeComposed wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 11:54 am
samegold wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 11:14 am sure, but better misleading than nothing i guess
When troubleshooting a problem, aim for as much clarity as you can. As How to Report Bugs Effectively says, "If the programmer can't tell what you meant, you might as well not have said anything."
your link is a nice textwall. are you a mason?
edit: updated my avatar to better fit in, hope you like it ;-)
siamhie wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:11 pm
It goes both ways. You have been asked multiple times to post your QSI (in full), yet here we are on page four still scratching our heads.
and i already asked 5 times: "wouldnt the live-usb-info show the software versions of the live-USB-system instead of the not-booting system?"
and yet you choose to ignore that 5 times, why is that?
Last edited by samegold on Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:49 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: startpar services returned failure: tlp sysstat failed. KDE doesnt start after enabling root account

#36 Post by Eadwine Rose »

I am issuing a warning. You have been asked multiple times to provide the info that is required to be shared when you ask for help, as per the forum rules, which you agreed with as soon as you started posting.
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Re: startpar services returned failure: tlp sysstat failed. KDE doesnt start after enabling root account

#37 Post by samegold »

Eadwine Rose wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:49 pm I am issuing a warning. You have been asked multiple times to provide the info that is required to be shared when you ask for help, as per the forum rules, which you agreed with as soon as you started posting.
some people say its strange that the QSI that you are so aggressively asking for, even if its irrelevant, has a "Vulnerabilities" section, where all the CPU-mitigations are listed.
seems weird that you cant explain what you would need that for and ignore all relating questions and react aggressively. isnt that a security risk? hmmm... 9_9
i mean, its not like you are collecting hardware information from your users, are you?
im gonna save this thread, just in case it gets deleted because of a "technical error" or something ;-)
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Re: startpar services returned failure: tlp sysstat failed. KDE doesnt start after enabling root account

#38 Post by Nokkaelaein »

@samegold, why are you being so antagonizing in so many of your posts, slipping in snide remarks to people who respond? It comes off as strange and rude, and a weird thing to do if in actual need of help.

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Re: startpar services returned failure: tlp sysstat failed. KDE doesnt start after enabling root account

#39 Post by siamhie »

I give up....siamhie has left chat
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