MX Moksha "Out of Bodhi" Testing Release RC2

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Re: MX Moksha "Out of Bodhi" Testing Release RC2

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FullScale4Me wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 11:23 pm
Aceediq wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 11:09 pm
there was no option of monitor settings in AVL MXE 23.5

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Set the external monitor as the Primary display.

Right click on the desktop ---> Applications ---> Preferences ---> Monitor Settings. Right click on external display and check the 'Primary' check box.

Log out, then log back in.

I am not seeing the option of monitor settings...

edit: I am trying to attach an image but I am getting a submission invalid error...

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Re: MX Moksha "Out of Bodhi" Testing Release RC2

#22 Post by FullScale4Me »

Again, Right Click on the Desktop - no clicky on anything on the bar thingie at the bottom....

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Re: MX Moksha "Out of Bodhi" Testing Release RC2

#23 Post by Eadwine Rose »

Aceediq wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 11:31 pm
edit: I am trying to attach an image but I am getting a submission invalid error...
You can also upload the image to an external service of post image or board attachment is not working. Just be mindful of the rules on image sizes when posting linked images.
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Re: MX Moksha "Out of Bodhi" Testing Release RC2

#24 Post by Aceediq »

FullScale4Me wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 12:16 am Again, Right Click on the Desktop - no clicky on anything on the bar thingie at the bottom....

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oh, you already on moksha... :popcorn:


I am still on AVL MXE :alien:

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Re: MX Moksha "Out of Bodhi" Testing Release RC2

#25 Post by Aceediq »

FullScale4Me wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 12:16 am Again, Right Click on the Desktop - no clicky on anything on the bar thingie at the bottom....

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@AVLinux I guess this would be another strong reason to switch to moksha and maybe keep it...I can't remember a time I slaved my laptop to a monitor, I was averagely mobile...so never came across issues using external monitors on enlightenment...

I would have to say only KDE is doing a decent job of having a nutritionally balanced diet always served when it comes to Linux DE's...the older we get the more appealing such offerings are...

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#26 Post by AVLinux »

OK, we're getting into the weeds here quickly..

On "MX Moksha" a patched version of 'arandr' is used for monitor settings, Moksha itself doesn't have a monitor settings application so the Bodhi devs cleverly adapted arandr.

In AV Linux 23.X Enlightenment is used and of course there is a Monitor settings application, it is built into Enlightenment and easily found in Menu-->Settings-->Screen Setup

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Please keep this thread about MX Moksha and post AV Linux issues in a new thread..

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#27 Post by Aceediq »

AVLinux wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 11:35 am OK, we're getting into the weeds here quickly..

On "MX Moksha" a patched version of 'arandr' is used for monitor settings, Moksha itself doesn't have a monitor settings application so the Bodhi devs cleverly adapted arandr.

In AV Linux 23.X Enlightenment is used and of course there is a Monitor settings application, it is built into Enlightenment and easily found in Menu-->Settings-->Screen Setup

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Please keep this thread about MX Moksha and post AV Linux issues in a new thread..
oh alright, let's stay out of the weeds and talk on moksha, I read in your RC1 thread that moksha's compositing isn't as good as enlightenment but they made available a workaround using picom...

but you added that, in line with the capabilities of picom as we know, picom does it's job...I want to ask if picom doing what picom does is as good as enlightenment's compositing?

what does enlightenment use to handle compositing if not picom?

and is there any reason why the moksha devs did not carry over enlightenment's compositing over to moksha?

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Re: MX Moksha "Out of Bodhi" Testing Release RC2

#28 Post by ylee2130 »

Aceediq wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 2:46 pm ...

oh alright, let's stay out of the weeds and talk on moksha, I read in your RC1 thread that moksha's compositing isn't as good as enlightenment but they made available a workaround using picom...

but you added that, in line with the capabilities of picom as we know, picom does it's job...I want to ask if picom doing what picom does is as good as enlightenment's compositing?

what does enlightenment use to handle compositing if not picom?

and is there any reason why the moksha devs did not carry over enlightenment's compositing over to moksha?
Native enlightenment compositing was stripped out of e17 code when Jeff Hoogland forked e17 and called it moksha. That was before I took over as lead dev for Bodhi. But the reason is clear e17 composting was problematic and buggy. Enlightenment compositing is less buggy now, BUT it is still problematic for Bodhi. The issue is that it does not work on really old video cards. Bodhi is one of a small handful of distros that one can install on these older machines it is best for us if it works out of the box as much as possible.

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#29 Post by AVLinux »

@ylee2130

Thanks for the clarification on that, having used both I would say that picom works great and with a few settings it feels very much like E's compositing.. Another note about Enlightenment's compositing is that it really can't be turned 'off' and with Moksha you can opt out completely. Enlightenment offers emulated 'Software' compositing and openGL-based compositing and on older systems it's software compositing can be very CPU hungry to the point of causing poor Video performance and other system lags. To be fair on a modern system with a good openGL supported Video card Enlightenment's compositing is very smooth.

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#30 Post by ylee2130 »

Yes Enlightenment composting is very nice and very smooth on my laptop. It does not work at all on an old netbook I have, half the screen is black the and other half unusable. And as noted composting can not be turned off in Enlightenment now as it could in e17.

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