[Newbie] Does an RTX 3070 and I7-12700k work with MX-Linux? And other qeustions [Solved]

[CharlesV]

Unfortunately I dont have an epson printer here that I can test with, but let me see if I can get a client to let me play a little. ( Might be a couple of day before I can get into one.)

Mainly I have Eco-Tanks out there and its pretty easy to see the ink levels, so I have never bothered.

[CharlesV]

Actually, the scripts are already there to run the epson utility.

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sudo /usr/lib/epson-backend/ecbd start

and then

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epson-printer-utility

and I am looking at the utility, chose printer and have ink levels. (this is on an EcoTank ET-2850)

If you cannot get it working, please start a new thread on this topic and we can check it out.

[DukeComposed]

Is systemd "bad"?

Short answer: yes. Long answer: it's up to you to decide if systemd is right for you. It's less about being good or bad in the same way that medicines aren't good or bad; it is how they are used that matters. I could lecture you and philosophize all day long, but the four main sources you should consult in making your decision are nosystemd.org, without-systemd.org, and Rethinking PID 1.

That's two anti-systemd resources and the original blog post by the primary developer of systemd which started his drive to replace every init on Linux.

systemd is not "good". It's not "bad". It's either the right thing for your workflow or else it's not. Everything systemd does, something else out there also does, so it's up to you to figure out if how the systemd developers think your machine should run is how you want your machine to be.

I said to use four sources and I've given three. The fourth one is your own gut instinct. If you want to embrace the systemd paradigm, there are plenty of distributions that will let you do that (and only that). If you don't like how systemd works behaves, and if you don't like the scope creep, the ever-growing dependencies, and the limited freedom of choice it provides, there are significantly fewer options.

MX Linux is one of the very few choices available that allow a user to run multiple init systems and pick one interchangeably at boot time.

[Noax]

Actually, the scripts are already there to run the epson utility.

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sudo /usr/lib/epson-backend/ecbd start

and then

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epson-printer-utility

and I am looking at the utility, chose printer and have ink levels. (this is on an EcoTank ET-2850)

If you cannot get it working, please start a new thread on this topic and we can check it out.

Thats gold! Thank you so so so much for this answer. I already tried that out and switched back to sysvinit on both Pcś and it can print, scan and show the ink levels :)
The only thing is I had to use the job-scheduler to run sudo /usr/lib/epson-backend/ecbd start every time on @reboot so that you only need to click the utility-programm icon.
How did you know that command was the only thing I needed to get it under sysvinit to work? I must simply overlooked something in my research or is it my "beginner status on linux"? Would be helpful to understand where you got such wisdom for my research in such matter in the future^

Also thank you DukeComposed for your insight about systemd and sysvinit. When I am done with all the pcś in our household and all runs well enough to slowly forget these first stressfull pc OS tinkering days I will look them through :)
But for my stomach I also think sysvinit "seems/feels" better...^^ We will see when I am about to hit an "actual systemd problem"...

[CharlesV]

Your very welcome.

Basically the difference between systemd and sysvinit services is HOW the service starts. Typically, both have an application that needs to be started... its just HOW it is started that is different. If you follow the trail of the install, look at the application(s) that start, you will see the differences.

I have only played around with changing a systemd to a sysvinit service wise, but I have been successful at creating a few things to start in the sysvinit system, and am building my voodoo up on that one!

For the epson utility, I started with the install message(s), tracked down the service that was failing, and then just launched it via command line.

[Noax]

Sorry, another qeustion:

Something bugs me a little bit: When I am trying to play an RPGMaker game from Steam, its https://store.steampowered.com/app/8500 ... _Fate_S17/ for me atm but another one has the same problem, then I can do fullscreen (right click and set fullscreen out of the context menu or doubleclick) but when I press it (any mousebutton) then it goes out of the fullscreenmode and I see my taskbar and above the name of the window.

Short story short: Is it possible to make such an emulated RPGMaker game in fullscreen only? So it doesnt leave their?

I already tried the following out:
Focus options in windowsmanager (nothing helped)
wmctrl -r 'Noel the Mortal Fate - Season 1' -b add,fullscreen (= that command worked! But sadly the same problem) When I tried it out on for example steam it was fullscreen and didnt botch to go in window mode or so until I alt+F4 steam. Its only these emulated games in their "special windows?"

Should I make my peace with that or is it possible to do something about that?

In the following an picture from the emulated window

EDIT: I red something about to "disable the compositor " when playing such games and enable it after playing such an game. And I red about "how to do it?" With an "Gamemode.ini"? Anyone an idea? I researched over the past days for this and it seems like I cant understand this problem very well...
Here is an thread about the "gamemode.ini" when anyone is interested. I searched an number of threads over the net the last few days... naturally not only reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/c ... _the_most/

Thank you again for your great help! :-)

[Noax]

Your very welcome.

Basically the difference between systemd and sysvinit services is HOW the service starts. Typically, both have an application that needs to be started... its just HOW it is started that is different. If you follow the trail of the install, look at the application(s) that start, you will see the differences.

I have only played around with changing a systemd to a sysvinit service wise, but I have been successful at creating a few things to start in the sysvinit system, and am building my voodoo up on that one!

For the epson utility, I started with the install message(s), tracked down the service that was failing, and then just launched it via command line.

Thanks for the insight. Its really fascinating to hear how you guys are working on such problems.
When you write " ... I started with the install message(s), tracked down the service that was failing, and then just launched it via command line." then I think you have an "better" or more "filled" log then my example out of the screenshot? I wouldnt know that it was the "service ecbd" out of this "tiny log" so I think I need an extra command to firstly install this .deb AND get an "more accurate"/more detailed log, or?

Thank you again for your time :-)

[Noax]

Sorry, another qeustion:

Something bugs me a little bit: When I am trying to play an RPGMaker game from Steam, its https://store.steampowered.com/app/8500 ... _Fate_S17/ for me atm but another one has the same problem, then I can do fullscreen (right click and set fullscreen out of the context menu or doubleclick) but when I press it (any mousebutton) then it goes out of the fullscreenmode and I see my taskbar and above the name of the window.

Short story short: Is it possible to make such an emulated RPGMaker game in fullscreen only? So it doesnt leave their?

I already tried the following out:
Focus options in windowsmanager (nothing helped)
wmctrl -r 'Noel the Mortal Fate - Season 1' -b add,fullscreen (= that command worked! But sadly the same problem) When I tried it out on for example steam it was fullscreen and didnt botch to go in window mode or so until I alt+F4 steam. Its only these emulated games in their "special windows?"

Should I make my peace with that or is it possible to do something about that?

In the following an picture from the emulated window

EDIT 2: I tried to disable the compositor now too. And an bunch of options from MX Linux general too. Esspecially all Focus named and window or click themed options. I daresay that I now saw most of the options MX Linux has in "click form". Didnt work :( I have not the slightest idea how to archive the above mentioned :-( I am going to sleep now...

Thank you again for your great help! :-)

EDIT 3: Its late and I am sleepy. Sorry for posting twice...

[CharlesV]

If you look at your install error you posted, it states:

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Install Message > Start /usr/lib/epson-backend/setup to change setup 

The pdf also showed the systemd start service, which was attempting to start that

/usr/lib/epson-backend/ecbd start

I found the ecbd and checked it for the params and then attempted to launch it - which it did.

As for the full screen issue... I have no idea, I dont game. But you can try working with the compositors ( MX Tweak | Compositor tab ) and play around a bit to see what might change that.

[Noax]

Thank you again for the answer.
So as I read I think I will need more time to get into error solution. Although this one sounds easy... just trying should have had done the trick there...

Tomorrow I am able to set up the second last PC in our household. For the basic functions (printer, internet, videos, data management, officework, some games that worked on my main pc) it "should" be straightforward now. But when I encounter more problems then I know that I will write here. You guys helped me a ton already. For an office PC Linux is really great. And for my gaming PC... time will tell. I was already prepared to make sacrifices.

But I will also wait for an answer to my qeustion above and when in an week it seems like no one knew something then I will try it with an exclusive thread. This kind of problem with RPGMaker games etc are more of an problem for immersion. Fullscreen would be really nice...
Today I need an break... next week will be work hell again and I hope I can set up the second last pc until then.