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Re: Is your stuff backed up?

#11 Post by mxer »

NickStone wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 7:07 am Whose turn is it to backup the internet?
A lot of the stuff on the internet is old & out of date, so I don't think many would miss it, whereas, most people who use the internet have copies of their data already... :crossfingers:
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Re: Is your stuff backed up?

#12 Post by RedGreen925 »

MikeR wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 12:49 am Please note:
World Backup day: https://www.worldbackupday.com/en

Also: Good stuff in the MX Manual https://raw.githubusercontent.com/MX-Li ... xum_en.pdf section 4.8.1
My backup script runs every two hours via cron close to like time machine does on Apple machine. It uses rsync with hard links to save on the space only saving changes to the file system to keep the space used to the minimum needed. And as always a backup is useless unless tested to be proven usable. A couple of times at least a week I use the similar/same script to clone my running install to external drive which then gets cloned onto my backup machine after booting on it then confirming it works. I am even more paranoid with my large media files, four machines accumulated over the years filled with twenty hard drives in zfs raidz configuration so I have four copies of that data, not the couple like my main and backup machine. And of course each personal machine has backup drives in them that are used for clone of main used install separate from the backup drive used in those machines. So yeah my stuff is backed up.

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Re: Is your stuff backed up?

#13 Post by AVLinux »

Hi,

I know better but am generally terrible at Backing up... Like many here have also said I never have anything important within a Linux install itself and always on separate drives and partitions which of course is no guarantee but at least if the OS goes south the Data is separated.

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#14 Post by Nokkaelaein »

My personal data and projects are quite tremendously important to me (including custom audio recordings spanning a couple of decades, which I routinely pull from as raw material in my work, and these largely only exist in places I directly have control over), so I have everything appropriately backed up. This also includes a completely off-site, physical, air-gapped twice-redundant copy that I sync by literally bringing physical drives to said location :P

Also, setting up a production system from scratch takes almost a couple of weeks full time, so having all such systems properly backed up and readily re-installable in the case of something like a hardware failure is important to me, too (and I have actually recovered from a couple of those, using my system backups, through the years).

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Re: Is your stuff backed up?

#15 Post by AVLinux »

Nokkaelaein wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 2:43 pm
Also, setting up a production system from scratch takes almost a couple of weeks full time, so having all such systems properly backed up and readily re-installable in the case of something like a hardware failure is important to me, too (and I have actually recovered from a couple of those, using my system backups, through the years).
Hehe, I know one that installs in about 20 minutes... :p

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#16 Post by Nokkaelaein »

AVLinux wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 2:50 pm Hehe, I know one that installs in about 20 minutes... :p
Hehh, yes, and it's great - but it's a generalized system that isn't the production system of some specific company or studio, with all the software and licenses and tooling etc. etc. in place that are used in that specific location. But yeah, I know it was just a lighthearted comment :biggrin: , AV Linux rocks.

As I've mentioned, on the Linux side, I do have my own such system with the software and tooling in place that I personally use. Not unlike AV Linux, only more deeply integrated with the commercial tools in use over here (which wouldn't be possible for a publicly available free distribution). That one naturally doesn't take long to redeploy, and it's invaluable as a fallback in many unforeseen situations. I've done some on the fly editing on that one even on some random company laptops, simply booting it live, heh.

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Yes on 100K floppies from 1995.
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Re: Is your stuff backed up?

#18 Post by Nokkaelaein »

richb wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 2:59 pm Yes on 100K floppies from 1995.
How did you know what my "completely off-site, physical, air-gapped twice-redundant copy" looks like?

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#19 Post by AVLinux »

Nokkaelaein wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 2:56 pm
AVLinux wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 2:50 pm Hehe, I know one that installs in about 20 minutes... :p
Hehh, yes, and it's great - but it's a generalized system that isn't the production system of some specific company or studio, with all the software and licenses and tooling etc. etc. in place that are used in that specific location. But yeah, I know it was just a lighthearted comment :biggrin: , AV Linux rocks.

As I've mentioned, on the Linux side, I do have my own such system with the software and tooling in place that I personally use. Not unlike AV Linux, only more deeply integrated with the commercial tools in use over here (which wouldn't be possible for a publicly available free distribution). That one naturally doesn't take long to redeploy, and it's invaluable as a fallback in many unforeseen situations. I've done some on the fly editing on that one even on some random company laptops, simply booting it live, heh.
Yes, I understand exactly, even my own actual Studio production system differs significantly from a generic AVL install. We are so fortunate to have the MX backup and snapshotting tools at out disposal for such detailed deployment and emergency reinstallation purposes!

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Re: Is your stuff backed up?

#20 Post by Nokkaelaein »

AVLinux wrote: Thu Mar 27, 2025 3:16 pm We are so fortunate to have the MX backup and snapshotting tools at out disposal for such detailed deployment and emergency reinstallation purposes!
Yes! I occasionally bring up how I think MX Snapshot doesn't get enough cred. It's still often confused with HD imaging tools like Clonezilla. Even when it seems like a discussion takes place between people who actually know what it is... it might turn out that the greatness and point of still wasn't fully realized :biggrin: ... (Not that long ago, I bumped into a random conversation like this, which went on for a while, and then someone basically said something to the effect of "yeah that MX Snapshot is cool, but surely you aren't trying to install your snapshot on a different computer than the one you made it on, that's bound not to work" XD argh.)

So yeah. This is one of those tools that really literally changed the way I approach using computers in general. Not a lot of tools of that calibre around, on any system!

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