Should I try regressing back to 6.12 using Live USB Kernel-update

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Should I try regressing back to 6.12 using Live USB Kernel-update

#1 Post by calinb »

I've been working on a live persistent boot with a bunch of ham radio software installed. I'd planned to distribute it to friends. I ran into this problem after I updated to the 6.13 kernel (AHS) I have Radeon graphics but it sounds like this could be a problem for my friends with Nvidia graphics. Should I simply try regressing back to 6.12 using Live USB Kernel-updater or maybe I can just go back to a save point from before my last remastering.

Thanks!

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System:
  Kernel: 6.13.7-2-liquorix-amd64 [6.13-5~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable amd_pstate=disable BOOT_IMAGE=/antiX/vmlinuz quiet splasht nosplash
    lang=en_US kbd=us tz=US/Pacific p_static_root splasht
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.0 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.38 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.20.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0 Distro: MX-23.5_ahs_x64 Libretto Jan 12  2025 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Inspiron 15 3535 v: 1.15.0 serial: <superuser required>
    Chassis: type: 10 v: 1.15.0 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Dell model: 0HNWG1 v: A00 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Dell v: 1.15.0
    date: 07/12/2024
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT1 charge: 40.8 Wh (100.0%) condition: 40.8/40.8 Wh (100.0%) volts: 12.8 min: 11.2
    model: BYD 0x4A,0x34,0x39,0x46,0x00,0x00,0x00 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: full
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 7 7730U with Radeon Graphics bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 3 gen: 4
    level: v3 note: check built: 2021-22 process: TSMC n7 (7nm) family: 0x19 (25) model-id: 0x50 (80)
    stepping: 0 microcode: 0xA50000F
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 8 tpc: 2 threads: 16 smt: enabled cache: L1: 512 KiB
    desc: d-8x32 KiB; i-8x32 KiB L2: 4 MiB desc: 8x512 KiB L3: 16 MiB desc: 1x16 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1638 high: 2219 min/max: 1600/2000 boost: enabled scaling:
    driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 1600 2: 1600 3: 1600 4: 1600 5: 1600 6: 1600
    7: 1600 8: 1600 9: 1600 10: 1600 11: 1600 12: 1600 13: 1600 14: 1600 15: 2219 16: 1600
    bogomips: 63879
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow mitigation: Safe RET
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines; IBPB: conditional; IBRS_FW; STIBP: always-on; RSB
    filling; PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Barcelo vendor: Dell driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: GCN-5 code: Vega
    process: GF 14nm built: 2017-20 pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: eDP-1
    empty: HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:15e7 class-ID: 0300 temp: 47.0 C
  Device-2: Sunplus Innovation Integrated_Webcam_HD type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 3-4:4
    chip-ID: 1bcf:2a06 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter>
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.20.0 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 509x286mm (20.04x11.26") s-diag: 584mm (22.99")
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 mapped: eDP model: AU Optronics 0xeb83 built: 2019 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60
    dpi: 142 gamma: 1.2 size: 344x194mm (13.54x7.64") diag: 395mm (15.5") ratio: 16:9 modes:
    max: 1920x1080 min: 640x480
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 24.2.8-1mx23ahs renderer: AMD Radeon Graphics (radeonsi renoir LLVM
    15.0.6 DRM 3.61 6.13.7-2-liquorix-amd64) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Renoir Radeon High Definition Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 03:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:1637 class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD ACP/ACP3X/ACP6x Audio Coprocessor vendor: Dell driver: snd_rn_pci_acp3x v: kernel
    alternate: snd_pci_acp3x, snd_pci_acp5x, snd_pci_acp6x, snd_acp_pci, snd_rpl_pci_acp6x,
    snd_pci_ps, snd_sof_amd_renoir, snd_sof_amd_rembrandt, snd_sof_amd_vangogh, snd_sof_amd_acp63,
    snd_sof_amd_acp70 pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 03:00.5 chip-ID: 1022:15e2
    class-ID: 0480
  Device-3: AMD Family 17h/19h HD Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 3
    speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 03:00.6 chip-ID: 1022:15e3 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.13.7-2-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8821CE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter driver: rtw_8821ce v: N/A
    modules: rtw88_8821ce,wl pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: 2000 bus-ID: 02:00.0
    chip-ID: 10ec:c821 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Realtek Bluetooth Radio type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 3-1:2 chip-ID: 0bda:c829
    class-ID: e001 serial: <filter>
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 2 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.2
    sub-v: f098 hci-v: 4.2 rev: 75b8
  Info: acl-mtu: 1021:8 sco-mtu: 255:12 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff park
    link-mode: peripheral accept service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio,
    telephony
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 505.61 GiB used: 26.49 GiB (5.2%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 model: P41PL NVMe SOLIDIGM 512GB size: 476.94 GiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 11117005
    temp: 22.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 type: USB vendor: SanDisk model: Cruzer Glide size: 28.67 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 1.00 scheme: MBR
  SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
Partition:
  Message: No partition data found.
Swap:
  Alert: No swap data was found.
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 50.0 C mobo: 31.0 C sodimm: SODIMM C gpu: amdgpu temp: 41.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2993 libs: 1725 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
Info:
  Processes: 368 Uptime: 4d 1h 50m wakeups: 44876 Memory: 14.98 GiB used: 1.46 GiB (9.7%)
  Init: SysVinit v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0
  alt: 12 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI
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Re: today update of liquorix-kernel is broken

#2 Post by j2mcgreg »

calinb wrote: Sun Mar 23, 2025 4:52 pm I've been working on a live persistent boot with a bunch of ham radio software installed. I'd planned to distribute it to friends. I ran into this problem after I updated to the 6.13 kernel (AHS) I have Radeon graphics but it sounds like this could be a problem for my friends with Nvidia graphics. Should I simply try regressing back to 6.12 using Live USB Kernel-updater or maybe I can just go back to a save point from before my last remastering.

Thanks!

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System:
  Kernel: 6.13.7-2-liquorix-amd64 [6.13-5~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable amd_pstate=disable BOOT_IMAGE=/antiX/vmlinuz quiet splasht nosplash
    lang=en_US kbd=us tz=US/Pacific p_static_root splasht
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.0 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.38 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.20.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0 Distro: MX-23.5_ahs_x64 Libretto Jan 12  2025 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Inspiron 15 3535 v: 1.15.0 serial: <superuser required>
    Chassis: type: 10 v: 1.15.0 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Dell model: 0HNWG1 v: A00 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Dell v: 1.15.0
    date: 07/12/2024
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT1 charge: 40.8 Wh (100.0%) condition: 40.8/40.8 Wh (100.0%) volts: 12.8 min: 11.2
    model: BYD 0x4A,0x34,0x39,0x46,0x00,0x00,0x00 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: full
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 7 7730U with Radeon Graphics bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 3 gen: 4
    level: v3 note: check built: 2021-22 process: TSMC n7 (7nm) family: 0x19 (25) model-id: 0x50 (80)
    stepping: 0 microcode: 0xA50000F
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 8 tpc: 2 threads: 16 smt: enabled cache: L1: 512 KiB
    desc: d-8x32 KiB; i-8x32 KiB L2: 4 MiB desc: 8x512 KiB L3: 16 MiB desc: 1x16 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1638 high: 2219 min/max: 1600/2000 boost: enabled scaling:
    driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 1600 2: 1600 3: 1600 4: 1600 5: 1600 6: 1600
    7: 1600 8: 1600 9: 1600 10: 1600 11: 1600 12: 1600 13: 1600 14: 1600 15: 2219 16: 1600
    bogomips: 63879
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow mitigation: Safe RET
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines; IBPB: conditional; IBRS_FW; STIBP: always-on; RSB
    filling; PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Barcelo vendor: Dell driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: GCN-5 code: Vega
    process: GF 14nm built: 2017-20 pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: eDP-1
    empty: HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:15e7 class-ID: 0300 temp: 47.0 C
  Device-2: Sunplus Innovation Integrated_Webcam_HD type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 3-4:4
    chip-ID: 1bcf:2a06 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter>
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.20.0 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 509x286mm (20.04x11.26") s-diag: 584mm (22.99")
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 mapped: eDP model: AU Optronics 0xeb83 built: 2019 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60
    dpi: 142 gamma: 1.2 size: 344x194mm (13.54x7.64") diag: 395mm (15.5") ratio: 16:9 modes:
    max: 1920x1080 min: 640x480
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 24.2.8-1mx23ahs renderer: AMD Radeon Graphics (radeonsi renoir LLVM
    15.0.6 DRM 3.61 6.13.7-2-liquorix-amd64) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Renoir Radeon High Definition Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 03:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:1637 class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD ACP/ACP3X/ACP6x Audio Coprocessor vendor: Dell driver: snd_rn_pci_acp3x v: kernel
    alternate: snd_pci_acp3x, snd_pci_acp5x, snd_pci_acp6x, snd_acp_pci, snd_rpl_pci_acp6x,
    snd_pci_ps, snd_sof_amd_renoir, snd_sof_amd_rembrandt, snd_sof_amd_vangogh, snd_sof_amd_acp63,
    snd_sof_amd_acp70 pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 03:00.5 chip-ID: 1022:15e2
    class-ID: 0480
  Device-3: AMD Family 17h/19h HD Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 3
    speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 03:00.6 chip-ID: 1022:15e3 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.13.7-2-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8821CE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter driver: rtw_8821ce v: N/A
    modules: rtw88_8821ce,wl pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: 2000 bus-ID: 02:00.0
    chip-ID: 10ec:c821 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Realtek Bluetooth Radio type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 3-1:2 chip-ID: 0bda:c829
    class-ID: e001 serial: <filter>
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 2 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.2
    sub-v: f098 hci-v: 4.2 rev: 75b8
  Info: acl-mtu: 1021:8 sco-mtu: 255:12 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff park
    link-mode: peripheral accept service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio,
    telephony
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 505.61 GiB used: 26.49 GiB (5.2%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 model: P41PL NVMe SOLIDIGM 512GB size: 476.94 GiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 11117005
    temp: 22.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 type: USB vendor: SanDisk model: Cruzer Glide size: 28.67 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 1.00 scheme: MBR
  SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
Partition:
  Message: No partition data found.
Swap:
  Alert: No swap data was found.
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 50.0 C mobo: 31.0 C sodimm: SODIMM C gpu: amdgpu temp: 41.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2993 libs: 1725 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
Info:
  Processes: 368 Uptime: 4d 1h 50m wakeups: 44876 Memory: 14.98 GiB used: 1.46 GiB (9.7%)
  Init: SysVinit v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0
  alt: 12 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI
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Re: today update of liquorix-kernel is broken

#3 Post by Stevo »

You'd probably fare better by temporarily returning to the nouveau driver before making a snapshot, so that the system is ready for all type of graphic hardware...also reinstall any wi-fi drivers you might have uninstalled for the same sort of reason.
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Re: today update of liquorix-kernel is broken

#4 Post by Eadwine Rose »

The snapshot maker asks if nvidia is going to be used, you can say yes or no, and when yes a line is added. <-- I doubt it does this when not on an nvidia machine, sorry, misunderstood you there.

Simply remove xorg=nvidia from the boot line which will then boot not using nvidia.

I am going to split the topic.

@calinb Your topic is here. Next time, do not tack on to another's topic, thanks.
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Re: today update of liquorix-kernel is broken

#5 Post by calinb »

Stevo wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 3:25 am You'd probably fare better by temporarily returning to the nouveau driver before making a snapshot, so that the system is ready for all type of graphic hardware...also reinstall any wi-fi drivers you might have uninstalled for the same sort of reason.
Thanks, Stevo. I might go one step further and start over with a fresh live MX-23 image but not update the kernel this time. It takes a few hours to install all the ham radio software but starting fresh might result in less support needed later by my friends using my customized live MX system. They all have newer AHS compatible hardware but maybe it's worth avoiding AHS too. I still don't sufficiently understand the root cause of the problem to feel comfortable in attempting to recover from it.
Eadwine Rose wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 3:27 am The snapshot maker asks if nvidia is going to be used, you can say yes or no, and when yes a line is added. <-- I doubt it does this when not on an nvidia machine, sorry, misunderstood you there.

Simply remove xorg=nvidia from the boot line which will then boot not using nvidia.

I am going to split the topic.

@calinb Your topic is here. Next time, do not tack on to another's topic, thanks.
Sure--I can limit all my posts to, essentially, replies that specifically address the OP rather than replies that might otherwise still be on-topic and informative, and perhaps helpful to me or others.

However, with this thread now forked, my post is now nearly entirely lacking context. As a former mod of several years on a very popular web forum and also after many years of participation here, I suddenly don't get this forum's management style.
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Re: Should I try regressing back to 6.12 using Live USB Kernel-update

#6 Post by Stevo »

It shouldn't be too much of an issue to temporarily revert to nouveau, since your laptop, like mine, is a Dell Optimus AMD/Nvidia setup, and QSI shows it using the integrated AMD APU.

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Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Dell G15 5515 v: 1.4.0 serial: <superuser required> Chassis:
    type: 10 v: 1.4.0 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Dell model: 00VT1V v: A04 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Dell v: 1.4.0
    date: 07/20/2021
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The MX Test repository is mostly backports; not the same as Debian testing
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Re: today update of liquorix-kernel is broken

#7 Post by Eadwine Rose »

calinb wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 2:36 pm Sure--I can limit all my posts to, essentially, replies that specifically address the OP rather than replies that might otherwise still be on-topic and informative, and perhaps helpful to me or others.

However, with this thread now forked, my post is now nearly entirely lacking context. As a former mod of several years on a very popular web forum and also after many years of participation here, I suddenly don't get this forum's management style.
Well.. you'll have to get used to it. Whether you were a mod on a very popular forum is irrelevant. This is how things are done here; our house, our way of handling things.
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Re: today update of liquorix-kernel is broken

#8 Post by DukeComposed »

calinb wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 2:36 pm However, with this thread now forked, my post is now nearly entirely lacking context. As a former mod of several years on a very popular web forum and also after many years of participation here, I suddenly don't get this forum's management style.
Then provide your own context. Provide enough independent context that the thread can stand on its own. Adding links to relevant threads is fine. If you don't have enough context to make a new, independent thread about a problem, come back when you do.

If you're an old timer online, then you remember when netiquette was a thing people understood and you remember how bad an idea it is to tack "me too" onto someone else's thread. If ten users have a problem with a widget, it's fine for there to be ten threads about fixing it. Threads are cheap these days and the search function works. This forum is far too mature and too broad to try to add value by consolidating everyone's Liquorix problems into a single uberthread called "Re: kernel problems - if you have kernel problems, put it here". MX development, and even Debian development if you can believe it, moves a lot faster than some search engine indexes do.

Folks here neither like nor want ancient threads, years old and dozens of pages long, still rambling on long after the original author has grown bored and moved onto greener pastures. To that end, this forum and its community are oriented towards providing support, not a historical record.
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Re: Should I try regressing back to 6.12 using Live USB Kernel-update

#9 Post by Stevo »

Hmmm...Debian 13 Trixie and thus MX 25 Standard will be using the LTS 6.12 kernel.
MXPI = MX Package Installer
QSI = Quick System Info from menu
The MX Test repository is mostly backports; not the same as Debian testing
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