firefox 135 32bit-no sound-system is 64bit

[Seeker]

Hi eadwinerose: I am confused (embarrassed, too--but hey, ignorance is bliss-No!). Is the "user password" the one I use each time I start my computer?

[Stuart_M]

Okay, keeping it very simple, let's for the moment forget about uninstalling Firefox using the Terminal and the command sudo apt remove firefox (by the way that method works fine for me - I just finished testing in MX-19.4 Xfce). Use MXPI to uninstall Firefox, which will give the same results as the Terminal. Perhaps you will find this way easier.

Please do the following in your MX-19.4 Xfce to remove the 32-bit Firefox:

1. Open the MXPI (MX Package Installer).
2. On the "Popular Applications" tab in the MXPI window, expand the "Browser" categories.
3. Place a check-mark in the radio-button to the left of the "Firefox" entry as shown in the below image with a red rectangle around the firefox package you want to uninstall (the Screenshot was taken in my MX-19.4 installation):
   FF_uninstall_via_MXPI.png
4. The "Uninstall" button on the lower-right of the MXPI window will become active as soon as you place the check-mark in the radio button as shown with a red arrow in the above image. Left-click this "Uninstall" button to uninstall Firefox.
5. Follow the prompts to uninstall Firefox.

Now follow the steps to install the latest Firefox 64-bit version (135.0.1 or whatever the latest version happens to be).

[Seeker]

I tried my everyday password that I use each morning when I fire up my computer--did not work. tried again my admin password. didn't work and got message 3 failed attempts. so I gave up again and typed exit. what is going on?

[mmikeinsantarosa]

The latest firefox for MX-19 is version 127.0.2. You must not have used synaptic or mx package installer to install firefox?
Firefox versions greater than 127.02 are not supported on MX-19/buster systems. This is a Mozilla not MX limitation.

-mike

[Seeker]

this is what I get when I type whoami into the xfce terminal emulator:
mesblvd@moach:~
$ whoami
mesblvd
mesblvd@moach:~
$
I understand this means I am not root. how do I go to be root so I can enter my admin password and remove FF--or do anything else one needs to be root to do.

[Seeker]

OK. I am not sure what is going on. I finally got into the game as root in the xfce terminal emulator after using su command, put in my admin password and was recognized as root, then used the sudo command I learned in this forum, and removed the 32bit FF 135. Then I went to the downloaded 64 bit version, right clicked on that, used my admin/root pword and got the installation dialogue box and used that to install FF 135.0.1, which is up and running. seems fine, though when I first opened it I got message that FF is installing audio and video components or something like that. fingers crossed that I will now be able to watch youtube videos and hear the audio. Meanwhile, I pasted in below what appeared in the terminal emulator. Please let me know why it is that the system finally recognized me as root:
mesblvd@moach:~
$ su
Password:
su: Authentication failure
mesblvd@moach:~
$ su
Password:
root@moach:/home/mesblvd# sudo apt remove firefox
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package 'firefox' is not installed, so not removed. Did you mean 'firefox:i386'?
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
calibre-bin edid-decode fonts-mathjax gvfs-bin ipset libchm1 libdav1d4 libicu67 libipset11
libjs-coffeescript libjs-jquery libjs-mathjax libjs-sphinxdoc libjs-underscore libmicrodns0
libpango1.0-0 libpangox-1.0-0 libpodofo0.9.6 libvncclient1 libxcb-composite0
linux-headers-4.19.0-12-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-12-common linux-headers-4.19.0-13-amd64
linux-headers-4.19.0-13-common linux-headers-4.19.0-14-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-14-common
linux-headers-4.19.0-16-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-16-common linux-headers-4.19.0-17-amd64
linux-headers-4.19.0-17-common linux-headers-4.19.0-18-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-18-common
linux-headers-4.19.0-19-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-19-common linux-headers-4.19.0-20-amd64
linux-headers-4.19.0-20-common linux-headers-4.19.0-21-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-21-common
linux-headers-4.19.0-22-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-22-common linux-headers-4.19.0-23-amd64
linux-headers-4.19.0-23-common linux-headers-4.19.0-24-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-24-common
linux-headers-4.19.0-25-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-25-common linux-image-4.19.0-12-amd64
linux-image-4.19.0-13-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-14-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64
linux-image-4.19.0-17-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-18-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-19-amd64
linux-image-4.19.0-20-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-21-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-22-amd64
linux-image-4.19.0-23-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-24-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-25-amd64 optipng
python-apsw python-cherrypy3 python-css-parser python-cssselect python-cssutils python-dateutil
python-feedparser python-html2text python-html5-parser python-markdown python-mechanize
python-msgpack python-netifaces python-pil python-pyparsing python-pyqt5.qtsvg
python-pyqt5.qtwebkit python-regex python-repoze.lru python-routes python3-pypdf2
vlc-plugin-access-extra xsel xsltproc
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
root@moach:/home/mesblvd# sudo apt remove firefox:i386
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
calibre-bin edid-decode fonts-mathjax glib-networking:i386 gvfs-bin ipset libaom0:i386
libasound2:i386 libatk-bridge2.0-0:i386 libatspi2.0-0:i386 libavcodec58:i386 libavutil56:i386
libcairo-gobject2:i386 libchm1 libcodec2-0.8.1:i386 libcolord2:i386 libcroco3:i386
libcrystalhd3:i386 libdav1d4 libepoxy0:i386 libgomp1:i386 libgsm1:i386 libgtk-3-0:i386 libicu67
libipset11 libjs-coffeescript libjs-jquery libjs-mathjax libjs-sphinxdoc libjs-underscore
libjson-glib-1.0-0:i386 liblcms2-2:i386 libmicrodns0 libmp3lame0:i386 libnuma1:i386 libogg0:i386
libopenjp2-7:i386 libopus0:i386 libpango1.0-0 libpangox-1.0-0 libpodofo0.9.6 libproxy1v5:i386
libpsl5:i386 librest-0.7-0:i386 librsvg2-2:i386 libshine3:i386 libsnappy1v5:i386
libsoup-gnome2.4-1:i386 libsoup2.4-1:i386 libsoxr0:i386 libspeex1:i386 libsqlite3-0:i386
libswresample3:i386 libtheora0:i386 libtwolame0:i386 libudev1:i386 libva-drm2:i386
libva-x11-2:i386 libva2:i386 libvdpau1:i386 libvncclient1 libvorbis0a:i386 libvorbisenc2:i386
libvpx5:i386 libwavpack1:i386 libwayland-client0:i386 libwayland-cursor0:i386
libwayland-egl1:i386 libwebpmux3:i386 libx264-155:i386 libx265-165:i386 libxcb-composite0
libxkbcommon0:i386 libxvidcore4:i386 libzvbi0:i386 linux-headers-4.19.0-12-amd64
linux-headers-4.19.0-12-common linux-headers-4.19.0-13-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-13-common
linux-headers-4.19.0-14-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-14-common linux-headers-4.19.0-16-amd64
linux-headers-4.19.0-16-common linux-headers-4.19.0-17-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-17-common
linux-headers-4.19.0-18-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-18-common linux-headers-4.19.0-19-amd64
linux-headers-4.19.0-19-common linux-headers-4.19.0-20-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-20-common
linux-headers-4.19.0-21-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-21-common linux-headers-4.19.0-22-amd64
linux-headers-4.19.0-22-common linux-headers-4.19.0-23-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-23-common
linux-headers-4.19.0-24-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-24-common linux-headers-4.19.0-25-amd64
linux-headers-4.19.0-25-common linux-image-4.19.0-12-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-13-amd64
linux-image-4.19.0-14-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-17-amd64
linux-image-4.19.0-18-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-19-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-20-amd64
linux-image-4.19.0-21-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-22-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-23-amd64
linux-image-4.19.0-24-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-25-amd64 optipng python-apsw python-cherrypy3
python-css-parser python-cssselect python-cssutils python-dateutil python-feedparser
python-html2text python-html5-parser python-markdown python-mechanize python-msgpack
python-netifaces python-pil python-pyparsing python-pyqt5.qtsvg python-pyqt5.qtwebkit
python-regex python-repoze.lru python-routes python3-pypdf2 vlc-plugin-access-extra xsel
xsltproc
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
firefox:i386
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
After this operation, 282 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 626850 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing firefox:i386 (135.0~mozillabinaries-1mx21+1) ...
update-alternatives: using /usr/bin/mx-viewer to provide /usr/bin/x-www-browser (x-www-browser) in auto mode
Processing triggers for mime-support (3.62) ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.23-4) ...
root@moach:/home/mesblvd# exit
exit
mesblvd@moach:~
$

[Eadwine Rose]

Oi, that is hard to read. Use [code]code output here[/code]

Thanks.

[Seeker]

hi eadwinerose: sorry for the jungle I pasted in. btw I do not understand your instruction "Use

Code: Select all

code output here

Anyway, I have eliminated all of the jungle above except the beginning, with additional comments in brackets []:
I pasted in below what appeared in the terminal emulator. Please let me know why it is that the system finally recognized me as root:
mesblvd@moach:~
$ su
Password: [used my everyday user password]
su: Authentication failure
mesblvd@moach:~
$ su
Password: [used my admin password and, this time, it worked! so what is the magic of the command "su"?]
root@moach:/home/mesblvd# sudo apt remove firefox

Beyond all this, my new FF 135 64bit installation works great, I now have my audio back when I play videos. btw the browser seems to be a bit faster than the old version of FF from mx19.4.

Re the new system I want to have, using MX23, I am a simple soul. afaik, I did not customize my computer with mx19.4, just did the default installation, not using uefi. everything on my 500gb ssd is on one partition (is the swap by default another partition?). my only "customization" is, as I noted above and in the other posting in this part of the mxforum, creation of a Data "folder" (ok, I know now that in unix I should say "directory"!) where I park all info in lower level directories like Data Business, Data Non-business, and, within them, directories like projects, clients, etc. I understand from your and others' replies that I am making a big jump from MX19.4 to MX23, so that the programs that come with MX will be much changed and, therefore, it would be best just to manually configure them. That includes the new thunderbird (TB). and I guess I will lose my FF history as the MX23 installation will reformat my SSD. I really would like to keep my FF history and my TB inbox and outbox. That's my concern. Should I have others?

[Seeker]

one addendum:
when I tried the whoami command in the terminal emulator under mesblvd@moach:- I just got the answer that I am mesblvd@moach.
But when I tried the whoami command after su I was recognized as root (that is not the precise formulation that I received).
so what precisely is this su command?

[DukeComposed]

when I tried the whoami command in the terminal emulator under mesblvd@moach:- I just got the answer that I am mesblvd@moach.
But when I tried the whoami command after su I was recognized as root

Yes, that is what "whoami" does. It tells you who you are on the system.

so what precisely is this su command?

I think a lot of the angst on this thread could have been avoided if you'd taken the time to learn a few of the basics of how to use the sudo command. There are literally hundreds of tutorials online that can teach you Linux sudo basics with dozens of examples. There are entire books on sudo that you could read if you were so inclined.

A lot of this comes down to understanding what sudo is, what it does, and why it exists. I'll skip the part where I explain the really simple stuff to you because I'm sure you've already read the Wikipedia page on sudo that spells it out. In short, sudo is a security tool that prevents people from having to login as root, because being root is dangerous, just to run one or two commands. It is a temporary "elevate me" permission slip you can invoke. Its usage syntax has been discussed on this forum before.

You really, really owe it to yourself to get familiar with beginner-level sudo usage and stop blaming MX Linux for including it. sudo predates Linux (by over a decade) and it is a core component of any Linux system administration toolkit. You want to be old school and use the command line? That's fine. Then you need to know the old school rules.

Once you commit to understanding that sudo is a good thing and not a bad thing, you can then branch out to understand what su is and why you should avoid it.

As is the case with all commands, you can always read the fine manual. Linux is one of the few operating systems that includes a bunch of its own documentation in every install, in the form of man pages. From a terminal you can run "man su" and it will show you the man page for su, the superuser command[0]. Get into the habit of avoiding su, because you can break things very easily when the guard rails aren't there, and superusers don't have guard rails.

Finally, I just want to point out how embarrassing it is to have an account that is almost six years old, with over 350 posts, and yet still dismiss a moderator's comment by saying "I don't understand what 'code output here' means". You have an obligation to read, follow, and understand the forum rules. You've been reminded to follow them. Please make the slightest effort to educate yourself in this matter. It's only polite.

[0] For extra credit, you can also see what documentation exists when you run "info <whatever>".