XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

[zopeck]

Hi,

Today I updated my system from XFCE 4.18 to 4.20, and found out that many structures changed from my locale which is es_UY.UTF-8, to english.

I verified that the MX locales is correctly configured (to es_UY.UTF-8).

Which "structures" changed to english?:
- Whisker menu, "Favorites" "Recently used" and "All Applications" should be shown as "Favoritos" "Usados recientemente" and "Todas las aplicaciones" respectively.
- Thunar file manager appears now in english.
- The "Logout menu", the window title and the name of all buttons.
- Many of the plugins and XFCE tools like the screenshot, keyboard shortcuts, mouse and touchpad and so on.

Below you can find my system info:

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Snapshot created on: 20250103_0919
System:
  Kernel: 6.12.6-1-liquorix-amd64 [6.12-7~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable amd_pstate=disable BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.12.6-1-liquorix-amd64
    root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet loglevel=3 splash
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.0 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.38 info: xfce4-panel wm: Compiz v: 0.8.18 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0 Distro: MX-23.5_ahs_x64 Libretto October 15  2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux
    12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 82SF v: IdeaPad 5 15IAL7 serial: <superuser required>
    Chassis: type: 10 v: IdeaPad 5 15IAL7 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: LENOVO model: LNVNB161216 v: SDK0T76463 WIN serial: <superuser required> UEFI: LENOVO
    v: JBCN28WW date: 12/15/2022
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 53.1 Wh (100.0%) condition: 53.1/57.0 Wh (93.1%) volts: 13.0 min: 11.5
    model: SMP L19M3PF6 type: Li-poly serial: <filter> status: full cycles: 170
CPU:
  Info: model: 12th Gen Intel Core i7-1255U bits: 64 type: MST AMCP arch: Alder Lake level: v3
    note: check built: 2021+ process: Intel 7 (10nm ESF) family: 6 model-id: 0x9A (154) stepping: 4
    microcode: 0x435
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 10 mt: 2 tpc: 2 st: 8 threads: 12 smt: enabled cache: L1: 928 KiB
    desc: d-8x32 KiB, 2x48 KiB; i-2x32 KiB, 8x64 KiB L2: 6.5 MiB desc: 2x1.2 MiB, 2x2 MiB L3: 12 MiB
    desc: 1x12 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1105 high: 3942 min/max: 400/4700:3500 scaling: driver: intel_pstate
    governor: performance cores: 1: 3440 2: 400 3: 3942 4: 400 5: 817 6: 400 7: 400 8: 400 9: 1868
    10: 400 11: 400 12: 400 bogomips: 62668
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling mitigation: Clear Register File
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced / Automatic IBRS; IBPB: conditional; RSB filling;
    PBRSB-eIBRS: SW sequence; BHI: BHI_DIS_S
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Alder Lake-UP3 GT2 [Iris Xe Graphics] vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel
    alternate: xe arch: Gen-12.2 process: Intel 10nm built: 2021-22+ ports: active: eDP-1
    empty: DP-1,DP-2,HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:46a8 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: NVIDIA TU117M [GeForce MX550] vendor: Lenovo driver: nvidia v: 535.216.03
    non-free: 530.xx+ status: current (as of 2023-03) arch: Turing code: TUxxx process: TSMC 12nm FF
    built: 2018-22 pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 4 link-max: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16
    bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:1f9f class-ID: 0302
  Device-3: Bison Integrated Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 3-8:3 chip-ID: 5986:214d
    class-ID: fe01 serial: <filter>
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: Compiz v: 0.8.18 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915 display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 509x286mm (20.04x11.26") s-diag: 584mm (22.99")
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 model: BOE Display 0x08c2 built: 2019 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 142
    gamma: 1.2 size: 344x194mm (13.54x7.64") diag: 395mm (15.5") ratio: 16:9 modes: 1920x1080
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 24.2.2-1~mx23ahs renderer: Mesa Intel Graphics (ADL GT2)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Alder Lake PCH-P High Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo
    driver: sof-audio-pci-intel-tgl alternate: snd_hda_intel, snd_soc_avs, snd_sof_pci_intel_tgl
    bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:51c8 class-ID: 0401
  API: ALSA v: k6.12.6-1-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api with: aoss type: oss-emulator
    tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: JACK v: 1.9.21 status: off tools: jack_control,qjackctl
  Server-2: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Alder Lake-P PCH CNVi WiFi driver: iwlwifi v: kernel modules: wl bus-ID: 00:14.3
    chip-ID: 8086:51f0 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
  IF-ID-1: tempestbr state: down mac: <filter>
  IF-ID-2: tempesttap state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel AX201 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 3-10:4 chip-ID: 8087:0026
    class-ID: e001
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 3 state: down bt-service: N/A rfk-block: hardware: no
    software: yes address: <filter>
  Info: acl-mtu: 1021:4 sco-mtu: 96:6 link-policy: rswitch sniff link-mode: peripheral accept
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 476.94 GiB used: 137.17 GiB (28.8%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Western Digital model: WD PC SN740 SDDPMQD-512G-1101
    size: 476.94 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 73110001 temp: 35.9 C scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 198.04 GiB size: 193.87 GiB (97.90%) used: 137.17 GiB (70.8%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p5 maj-min: 259:5
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 3 (default 60) cache-pressure: 50 (default 100)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 4 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 38.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 3271 libs: 1675 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb https://mirrors.aliyun.com/mxlinux/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb https://mirrors.aliyun.com/mxlinux/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vscode.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64,arm64,armhf] https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/code stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/warpdotdev.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64 signed-by=/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/warpdotdev.gpg] https://releases.warp.dev/linux/deb stable main
Info:
  Processes: 350 Uptime: 1h 9m wakeups: 65255 Memory: 15.35 GiB used: 3 GiB (19.6%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

[zopeck]

Hi there!
Happy new year to all!
Is there any news related to this bug? I would appreciate very much any insight. Regards.

[j2mcgreg]

The problem with Post Image has now been fixed and you will have to repost the screenshot that you refer to in post #1.

[dolphin_oracle]

Maybe post the output of your

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locales

command.

FWIW, I cannot reproduce it at the moment.

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locale
LANG=es_UY.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=

screenshot of whisker.

[zopeck]

Hi,
Thanks for your answer, I am posting an image of my start menu so you can see what I am talking about. Regards.

[fehlix]

Hi,

Today I updated my system from XFCE 4.18 to 4.20, and found out that many structures changed from my locale which is es_UY.UTF-8, to english.

I verified that the MX locales is correctly configured (to es_UY.UTF-8).

Which "structures" changed to english?:
- Whisker menu, "Favorites" "Recently used" and "All Applications" should be shown as "Favoritos" "Usados recientemente" and "Todas las aplicaciones" respectively.
- Thunar file manager appears now in english.
- The "Logout menu", the window title and the name of all buttons.
- Many of the plugins and XFCE tools like the screenshot, keyboard shortcuts, mouse and touchpad and so on.

Perhaps a quick check:
open terminal and run these two commands:

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gettext -d xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin -s 'Recently Used'

and

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env LANG=es_UY.utf8 gettext -d xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin -s 'Recently Used'

the last one gives here:

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env LANG=es_UY.utf8 gettext -d xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin -s 'Recently Used'
Aplicaciones recientes

If not, seems your tweaked system is somehow in disorder regarding locale setup.
As mentioned already, please post the output of this command (not "locales" but "locale"):

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locale

[zopeck]

Hi,
Thanks for answering. Here is the output of the commands:

First command: " gettext -d xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin -s 'Recently Used' "
Its output: "Aplicaciones recientes"

Second command: " env LANG=es_UY.utf8 gettext -d xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin -s 'Recently Used' "
Its output: "Aplicaciones recientes"

Third command: "locale"
Its output following:
LANG=es_UY.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=es_UY.UTF-8

[zopeck]

Following is the output of: "locale -a":

C
C.utf8
es_UY.utf8
POSIX

[fehlix]

Hi,
Thanks for answering. Here is the output of the commands:

First command: " gettext -d xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin -s 'Recently Used' "
Its output: "Aplicaciones recientes"

Second command: " env LANG=es_UY.utf8 gettext -d xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin -s 'Recently Used' "
Its output: "Aplicaciones recientes"

Third command: "locale"
Its output following:
LANG=es_UY.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=es_UY.UTF-8

Thanks, so it appears all is set properly. And the translation for the example string 'Recently Used'
is also properly provided by the underlying gettext-based locale system.
But still the whisker menu shows untranlsated English strings.
So it seems we need to dig a bit deeper.
Next: Please show system-wide defined default locale with this command :

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cat /etc/default/locale

and also
What happens if you are running this command:

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xfce4-popup-whiskermenu -p

I guess you still have "Favorites", "Recently Used" and "All applications" in English, right?
Another test: Can you create a new user (for testing) with the tool "MX User" ,
and login as the new user. Would the whisker menu still have untranslated strings?

[zopeck]

Hi, here is the output of your last request:

cat /etc/default/locale:
# File generated by update-locale
LANG=es_UY.UTF-8
LC_ALL=es_UY.UTF-8

xfce4-popup-whiskermenu -p:


And something strange:

I know that the translation of the whisker menu for example is located in:
/usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin.mo

And if I do:
find (or) sudo find /usr/share/locale/ -type f -iname 'xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin.m[o]' I get NOTHING on the CLI output (an empty line).

But if I do:
find /usr/share/locale/ -type f -iname 'yelp.m[o]' (another file that I know exists) I get all language versions of the file.

But if i do:
locate xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin.mo I get the output which is the location with the full path of the plugins files for all languages, including of course, the "es"

UPDATE:
I did "sudo updatedb" and then tried again, but the command "locate xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin.mo" does not return ANY output.

I navigate to: /usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/ and try to list the file xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin.mo and IT DOES NOT EXIST.

Please let me know. Regards.