motherboard recommendation

[scatman98]

sophisticated (boot kits + mitm) attacks are pretty common now. why risk it? even for casual work.

Do you even know what MITM means? What does that have to do with your motherboard? That NIST publication appears to be just a guideline also.

you are welcome to chime in as to whats a good secure build these days as per your understanding, no need to go off the rocker.

[scatman98]

Go with Gigabyte based on my personal experience. My first motherboard on my latest build was an ASUS which I had good luck with my last 3 builds but using an ASUS on my 4th build started acting up after 11 months which would cause random hard freezes and after 2 months of diagnostics it completely failed as my computer wouldn't boot up anymore at all which it was out of warranty by then. ASUS quality has dropped so much it like rolling dice. Then I tried MSI which the first one burnt up as soon as I pressed the power button. Got it replaced for free at Best Buy and 2 months later it failed. MSI = lowest quality rubbish! Finally I listened to others to get a Gigabyte motherboard which is still going strong for over 5 years.

wasnt sinkclose just as bad as meltdown and spectre? both intel and amd are even in my books at this point.

[scatman98]

Another vote for Gigabyte stuff! In the past ASUS has also been quite good but it's been a few years.. If you're determined to have Intel CPU, Intel used to make their own Mobos too, my first Quad build had an Intel board and it was bulletproof. I don't know if they are still in the Mobo market or not. I do know they cost more but had better grade electrolytic capacitors (well they said so anyway)..

yeah i had those intel mobos till 2015 or so. solid stuff i agree.

[j2mcgreg]

@scatman98 wrote:

you are welcome to chime in as to whats a good secure build these days as per your understanding, no need to go off the rocker.

Keep your responses civil.

[AK-47]

you are welcome to chime in as to whats a good secure build these days as per your understanding, no need to go off the rocker.

I already stated my input, in the budget you are seeking it will be exceptionally tough to find a board of that calibre. I could suggest some server-grade boards but that would be well beyond your budget.
You throw around a bunch of acronyms and NIST publications blindly without any understanding, thinking it will be some kind of panacea for your security woes, and have unrealistic expectations for budget. This is exactly the kind of check-box MBA-style thinking that results in security breaches. No matter how compliant your build is, it all falls on the person operating that system.

[Mauser]

Go with Gigabyte based on my personal experience. My first motherboard on my latest build was an ASUS which I had good luck with my last 3 builds but using an ASUS on my 4th build started acting up after 11 months which would cause random hard freezes and after 2 months of diagnostics it completely failed as my computer wouldn't boot up anymore at all which it was out of warranty by then. ASUS quality has dropped so much it like rolling dice. Then I tried MSI which the first one burnt up as soon as I pressed the power button. Got it replaced for free at Best Buy and 2 months later it failed. MSI = lowest quality rubbish! Finally I listened to others to get a Gigabyte motherboard which is still going strong for over 5 years.

wasnt sinkclose just as bad as meltdown and spectre? both intel and amd are even in my books at this point.

When it comes to the first MSI motherboard I installed it gave the "meltdown" venerability a literal meaning. I shut the computer down as soon as I seen smoke and a glowing red hot small square chip on the motherboard that I have no idea what it was. I use the latest MX LINUX XFCE version on my computer. I use an AMD Ryzen 7 CPU in my personally built desktop computer. I have an Intel CPU in my Acer laptop which I never had any issues with. I just wish Microcenter https://www.microcenter.com/ wasn't so far from me because I prefer to actually look at what I buy in person and hold it in my hands which you can't do online.

[scatman98]

you are welcome to chime in as to whats a good secure build these days as per your understanding, no need to go off the rocker.

I already stated my input, in the budget you are seeking it will be exceptionally tough to find a board of that calibre. I could suggest some server-grade boards but that would be well beyond your budget.
You throw around a bunch of acronyms and NIST publications blindly without any understanding, thinking it will be some kind of panacea for your security woes, and have unrealistic expectations for budget. This is exactly the kind of check-box MBA-style thinking that results in security breaches. No matter how compliant your build is, it all falls on the person operating that system.

I saw an sus b760 business mobo as compliant with NIST for half my budget. what are you looking at, link it here.
operator instructors? sure go ahead. a boot kit infects as you boot in.

[scatman98]

Go with Gigabyte based on my personal experience. My first motherboard on my latest build was an ASUS which I had good luck with my last 3 builds but using an ASUS on my 4th build started acting up after 11 months which would cause random hard freezes and after 2 months of diagnostics it completely failed as my computer wouldn't boot up anymore at all which it was out of warranty by then. ASUS quality has dropped so much it like rolling dice. Then I tried MSI which the first one burnt up as soon as I pressed the power button. Got it replaced for free at Best Buy and 2 months later it failed. MSI = lowest quality rubbish! Finally I listened to others to get a Gigabyte motherboard which is still going strong for over 5 years.

wasnt sinkclose just as bad as meltdown and spectre? both intel and amd are even in my books at this point.

When it comes to the first MSI motherboard I installed it gave the "meltdown" venerability a literal meaning. I shut the computer down as soon as I seen smoke and a glowing red hot small square chip on the motherboard that I have no idea what it was. I use the latest MX LINUX XFCE version on my computer. I use an AMD Ryzen 7 CPU in my personally built desktop computer. I have an Intel CPU in my Acer laptop which I never had any issues with. I just wish Microcenter https://www.microcenter.com/ wasn't so far from me because I prefer to actually look at what I buy in person and hold it in my hands which you can't do online.

yeah weird stuff happens with pcs but we just keep blaming anything except the real cause of the problem. exploits always outrun patches and operator abilities to deal with them.

[Eadwine Rose]

Moved to the chat forum. Keep it civil, folks, thanks.

[AK-47]

I saw an sus b760 business mobo as compliant with NIST for half my budget. what are you looking at, link it here.
operator instructors? sure go ahead. a boot kit infects as you boot in.

Fair call, my apologies (although, if you know what you are looking for, why bother asking?). I was thinking in line of server/business boards.
That said, not sure I would recommend an ASUS motherboard given their shoddy warranty practices: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3DwhTc7Z4o
Now this is not for that board (it's for the ROG series) but I find it hard to support a company with such shonky business practices.

They have lied about their BIOS update policy, so it wouldn't surprise me if they lie about their NIST compliance. It's certified for NIST SP 800-147 which is in relation to BIOS protection, at least so they claim anyway.