After updating for MX 23.4 to 23.5 (Gnome DE) - GTK apps stopped working

[madmax25]

OK the gsettings you gave me fixed it, but the MX-Tweak looks different in Gnome and xfce.
In xfce it is the ordinary look with the 8 tabs...
Bar - Theme - Compositor - Screen - Configuration-options - Super-Key - Miscellaneous
...and the Theme matcvhes the chosen dark system theme.

But in Gnome I have only the tabs...
Super-Key - Miscellaneous
...and the theme is a light one.

Is it meant to be like that?

The version number is the same (24.12.03mx23) for both sessions xfce and Gnome.

But each time I was in an xfce-session (shutdown -> reboot -> chosing "xfce-session") and get back in the Gnome session (shutdown -> reboot -> chosing "Gnome"), these two gsettings are lost, and I have to enter them in a terminal again.

How can I make Gnome remember them, please?

[timkb4cq]

Well, MX-Tweak hasn't really been tested with Gnome - it's not a DE we support. And I don't use it either so I'm not sure what's happening on reboot.
I do know that gsettings in Gnome uses dconf as a backend and it's possible there's an issue with the dconf config files in your home folder. That can happen if settings were made using sudo at some point - and there may be other ways...
I would first try deleting ~/.cache/dconf/ , doing the gsettings and reboot. And if that doesn't work try the same with ~/.config/dconf/

[madmax25]

~/.cache/dconf/ doesn't exist here and deleting ~/.config/dconf/ was the worst thing I could have ever done. Now my entire config is lost (no wallpaper, no dark theme, nothing! Not even the touchpad click!). Even if the original is still in ther paperbin, Gnome refuses to copy it back to where it came from.

EDIT:
Thank God, I also have a Mint partition on that laptop, so I was able to access the MX-Home partition from there and copy that folder back to its original location.

EDIT2:
I think I found a solution. Not sure if it is the best one, but at least it seems to work as intended.
I went into...

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~/.config/dconf/

...opened a terminal there and added the i attrib to the file "user".
This is the according command I was using:

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sudo chattr +i user

(For those who don't know yet: ) To invert that command just use a - instead of the +.

EDIT3:
Now I found out, this solution isn't one.
If the i attrib is set, the gsettings are saved, but I cannot change anything in the extensions either, so I need another solution, or another distro with a native Gnome.

[asqwerth]

OK the gsettings you gave me fixed it, but the MX-Tweak looks different in Gnome and xfce.
In xfce it is the ordinary look with the 8 tabs...
Bar - Theme - Compositor - Screen - Configuration-options - Super-Key - Miscellaneous
...and the Theme matcvhes the chosen dark system theme.

But in Gnome I have only the tabs...
Super-Key - Miscellaneous
...and the theme is a light one.

Is it meant to be like that?

The version number is the same (24.12.03mx23) for both sessions xfce and Gnome.

But each time I was in an xfce-session (shutdown -> reboot -> chosing "xfce-session") and get back in the Gnome session (shutdown -> reboot -> chosing "Gnome"), these two gsettings are lost, and I have to enter them in a terminal again.

How can I make Gnome remember them, please?

if you use Gnome DE, the XFCE-specific things in MX tweak won't appear.

It is up to you to use Gnome settings and Gnome's own Tweak tool to configure your system.

[madmax25]

if you use Gnome DE, the XFCE-specific things in MX tweak won't appear.

Ok, I see, but the problem is, the gsettings are not saved (I don't know why).

I mean, I start the Gnome session, try its software manager or another GTK app and it crashes right after touching it with the mouse pointer. Then I enter the gsettings from post #10, and everything is ok.
After that, I reboot to xfce, do nothing else, and reboot again to Gnome.
Then the gsettings from #10 are lost and I have to enter them again.

The same occurs when I switch between the sessions by just doing a logout and login.

[asqwerth]

I suppose it's possible that xfce and Gnome are both using the same settings files and they conflict with each other?

Have you tried booting into systemd to see if the crashes in Gnome stop?

[dolphin_oracle]

mx-tweak does not setting a gsettings value for cursor theme, but xfce's Mouse & Touchpad->Theme utility does.

[madmax25]

@ asqwerth
If the same file is used, why did everything work fine before the updates of 12.01.2025?
I tried to boot into "Gnome on Xorg".
Everything ok there, but I need the Wayland mode of Gnome, because otherwise my touchscreen doesn't work in Firefox.

@ dolphin_oracle
Same question like above, why did it work fine before the updates?
And how can I prevent xfce of changing the gsettings of Gnome?

Some Gnome extensions appearantly make gsettings changes. I noticed this when I added the i attribute to

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~/.config/dconf/user

As long as the i attribute was set, it was impossible to change settings in the Gnome extensions.

[dolphin_oracle]

the old 4.18 xfce settings did not set a cursor size value explicilty and did not set one in gsettings either.

4.20 does set the cursor size value. Thinking out loud, I'm thinking the the xfce settings for the cursor size differ between gnome and xfce.

so what I would try is set the theme and szie in Xfce to whatever you want it to be in gnome. Change the size value deliberately. Use the Mouse & Touchpad settings to do it.

[atomick]

just a toss the wrench in. Try creating a new account a test account and see if that propagates the same issue.