What about a regular MX Linux with AV Linux config?

[Tony45]

@ AVLinux
--->>In general I'm extremely puzzled why people....this and that
--Habits---Freedom of choice---preferences---Needs that change over time---
Enlightenment might be the lightest and therefore be the best, but ....
If I use Enlightenment, my eyes get confused all the time
If I use Xfce, I don't need my eyes, "as my fingers are doing the walking"
and just to be sure, I installed Nemo FM (menu/view/list...ctrl+mousewheel)
Thanks a lot for a fantastic "21" release

[Duliwi]

This statement is perhaps not so representative, because I do not make a lot with sound and video. So it doesn't matter if you simply ignore it.

But when I was in MX-19 Xfce I decided to use AV Linux Xfce when I do need to upgrade. Do I absolutely need it? No.
So why have I decided to upgrade to AV Linux a year or so ago? Answer: Just because I would have more functionality and possibility.

But then it was told, that AV Linux 23 will no longer be available in Xfce. I am pretty sure, that Enlightenment may be a very interesting DE. But I do not want to change from Xfce. Only because I got used to Xfce. I might have switched to AV-Linux if it had been available on KDE. But Enlightenment is too different.

That is not a criticism. It just didn't fit for me. But I'm well aware that I'm not necessarily part of your target group.

[Be OK]

For me is all the fuzz and yelling because we are thrown in the deep,with pipewire in the OS and Glen who finally stay with enlightment. I still hate pipewire for the for me mystery settings or your to use wireplumber,made me think O Dear the drain is plugged with crooked notes.For me its still aba cadabra how all should work.

[AVLinux]

Hi @Be OK !

If I did make an MX XFCE or KDE ISO with AV Linux config added you would still get PipeWire, just with a few extra tools.. PipeWire is what Audio on Linux is now and it was smart for MX to get on board with a good implementation of it, I don't prefer it either and it has some issues but both PulseAudio and JACK will fade from being properly maintained any more and more Desktop Environments and Applications will have hard dependencies on PipeWire just like they did which forced the use of PulseAudio many years ago... The next thing will be Wayland and it will be the same scenario, so that is the nature of Linux, it is not a long-term backward-compatible OS which makes it a maddeningly good and terrible platform for a multimedia workstation.

If you tell me what programs you use on AV Linux and how you want them to work I can try and help you figure out how to best use them with PipeWire.

[tomcashen]

Hi, Glen. I've tried with enlightenment, but man, I haven't felt like such a beginner in years. There's no big thing wrong with it, just a passel of what I consider micro-annoyances. And for sure it is mostly me not being used to it. The one weird gripe is occasionally the ui is not all drawn. Now I could investigate and troubleshoot, but right now I have my hands full just learning Ardour and Musescore. I didnt think I'd have a problem with it because I'm comfortable with XFCE, Gnome, and Plasma, and even a tiler here and there. Right now I'm heading back to XFCE and will check back with AVLINUX one I start seriously recording.

Thanks for all your hard work.

[AVLinux]

Hi, Glen. I've tried with enlightenment, but man, I haven't felt like such a beginner in years. There's no big thing wrong with it, just a passel of what I consider micro-annoyances. And for sure it is mostly me not being used to it. The one weird gripe is occasionally the ui is not all drawn. Now I could investigate and troubleshoot, but right now I have my hands full just learning Ardour and Musescore. I didnt think I'd have a problem with it because I'm comfortable with XFCE, Gnome, and Plasma, and even a tiler here and there. Right now I'm heading back to XFCE and will check back with AVLINUX one I start seriously recording.

Thanks for all your hard work.

Hi, I get your point, although if actual parts of the UI are missing that seems to point to Video card or OpenGL problems, Enlightenment has it's quirks for sure but the UI not working is not a feature...lol.. Work is ongoing to make Enlightenment work smoother out of the box and a short(er) Video about setting it up is planned. If you haven't already watched the AVL 23 release Video on the AVL website I strongly suggest it, it is packed with Enlightenment info.

[Be OK]

As always Glen Never a bad word for you, respect all the people who do this in there free time,no sir chapeau.
I will try the xfce version, solve some things but i must confess you video was a big help in the beginning.
And i am to blame for being a grumpy old man that loose many things many take for granted. So as you always offer to help a thank you you singing XXXX lol.
With many greetings Jan

[macronus]

How might I change the desktop environment and display manager after installing AV Linux?

I'm trying to repurpose a so-called thin client PC and am finding a difference between how much the GPU is being utilized differently, using radeontop, between AV Linux and Lubuntu (not Ubuntu).

I don't see this as being so much about Ubuntu (and its flavors) vs MX Linux (and its flavors including AV Linux) as much as it is about LXQt and sddm vs what is used by AV Linux but I could be mistaken.

I'm wondering how difficult it may be to install LXQt and sddm on top of AV Linux.

As for the thin client PC, it's an HP T620, a rather unremarkable PC with the single exception of being small, fanless and completely silent.

[tomcashen]

"... if actual parts of the UI are missing that seems to point to Video card or OpenGL problems..."

I am sure you are correct, sir. And yes, I have watched your excellent video, which actually inspired me to take AVLINUX for a test drive and be excited about Enlightenment for a time.

But for me it's timing. I'm newly retired and just getting my feet wet in music production. Learning a new interface is not part of that plan. Don't get me wrong. In the past few years, THAT was my casual hobby. From ganome to gahyprland, I had fun with exploring the ideas of others. MX played a big part in helping understand Linux in general. Gratitude for all involved. Your work has also helped me develop a framework for exploring all that I need to learn to get this music that been rattling in my brain for 40 some years into my grandchildren's ears.

Nowadays, tho, correcting muscle memory to the point that I can stop saying bad words every time I double click a title bar is probably too much for this old man.

If you do build Avlinux atop the MX XFCE, that will absolutely be my studio machine.

[Tony45]

If you do build Avlinux atop the MX XFCE, that will absolutely be my studio machine.

I support that