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Gigahenry007
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Re: Touchy Touchpad

#11 Post by Gigahenry007 »

Do I want to install the "package Maintenance Version Y or I What would you like to do about it ? Your options are:
Y or I : install the package maintainer's version
N or O : keep your currently-installed version
D : show the differences between the versions
Z : start a shell to examine the situation
The default action is to keep your current version.
*** 8812au.conf (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?
This one?
Y or I : install the package maintainer's version

So this is the Correct one "Y or I : install the package maintainer's version" out of list.
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Re: Touchy Touchpad

#12 Post by CharlesV »

Yes, I always install that on new / updates.

If you had made a bunch of changes, and were interested in keeping them. (And knew that..) then you might want to change differently. But I think you are safe. (And you made your timeshift of course, so yes :-) )
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Re: Touchy Touchpad

#13 Post by Gigahenry007 »

Anyone, does this look right for the Updated browser to Liquorix 6.11.7-1 64 bit?
Both the first and new one has a blue checkmark next to the blank box.
I don't know if I can see the differences?
Thank You.

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System:
  Kernel: 6.11.7-1-liquorix-amd64 [6.11-11~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.11.7-1-liquorix-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro
    quiet splash
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.36 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.18.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23.4_x64 Libretto May 19  2024 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Dell product: XPS 13 9360 v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Chassis:
    type: 10 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Dell model: 01KT0M v: A00 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Dell v: 2.21.0
    date: 06/02/2022
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 8.3 Wh (20.0%) condition: 41.4/60.0 Wh (69.0%) volts: 7.6 min: 7.6
    model: SMP DELL TP1GT61 type: Li-poly serial: <filter> status: not charging
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core i5-7200U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Amber/Kaby Lake note: check
    gen: core 7 level: v3 note: check built: 2017 process: Intel 14nm family: 6 model-id: 0x8E (142)
    stepping: 9 microcode: 0xF6
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 tpc: 2 threads: 4 smt: enabled cache: L1: 128 KiB
    desc: d-2x32 KiB; i-2x32 KiB L2: 512 KiB desc: 2x256 KiB L3: 3 MiB desc: 1x3 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1742 high: 2497 min/max: 400/2601 boost: enabled scaling:
    driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 1079 2: 1049 3: 2344 4: 2497 bogomips: 21599
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling mitigation: Microcode
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
  Type: mmio_stale_data mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed mitigation: IBRS
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: IBRS; IBPB: conditional; STIBP: conditional; RSB filling;
    PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
  Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 620 vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-9.5
    process: Intel 14nm built: 2016-20 ports: active: eDP-1 empty: DP-1,DP-2 bus-ID: 00:02.0
    chip-ID: 8086:5916 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: Realtek Integrated_Webcam_HD type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-5:5
    chip-ID: 0bda:568b class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter>
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.18.0 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915 display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.00x11.22") s-diag: 582mm (22.93")
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 model: Sharp 0x1449 built: 2015 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 166 gamma: 1.2
    size: 294x165mm (11.57x6.5") diag: 337mm (13.3") ratio: 16:9 modes: 1920x1080
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 620 (KBL GT2)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    alternate: snd_soc_skl, snd_soc_avs, snd_sof_pci_intel_skl bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:9d71
    class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.11.7-1-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Rivet Networks
    Killer Wireless-n/a/ac 1535 driver: ath10k_pci v: kernel modules: wl pcie: gen: 1
    speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 3a:00.0 chip-ID: 168c:003e class-ID: 0280 temp: 41.0 C
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-3:3 chip-ID: 0cf3:e301
    class-ID: e001
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.2
    sub-v: 25a hci-v: 4.2
  Info: acl-mtu: 1024:8 sco-mtu: 50:8 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff
    link-mode: peripheral accept service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio,
    telephony
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 119.24 GiB used: 24.53 GiB (20.6%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Toshiba model: THNSNK128GVN8 M.2 2280 128GB
    size: 119.24 GiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 4101 scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 118.99 GiB size: 116.56 GiB (97.96%) used: 24.53 GiB (21.0%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 279 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 2 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 48.0 C pch: 37.5 C mobo: 33.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2131 libs: 1052 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
Info:
  Processes: 245 Uptime: 3h 2m wakeups: 38767 Memory: 3.56 GiB used: 1.8 GiB (50.6%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI
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Re: Touchy Touchpad

#14 Post by CharlesV »

yes, the kernel your running is now 6.11.7 Liquorix ( top line of your QSI )
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Re: Touchy Touchpad

#15 Post by Gigahenry007 »

CharlesV wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:08 pm yes, the kernel your running is now 6.11.7 Liquorix ( top line of your QSI )
Okay great!
see how it goes!?!
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Re: Touchy Touchpad

#16 Post by Gigahenry007 »

Dear Friends.

Hope all is well...

There is a night and day difference when I use touchpad and switch to a wireless mouse.

FInd myself having to tick the touchpad/move the finger(s) around the touchpad to get it out of an annoying "hang"

The touchpad has been replaced but it didn't make any changes.

Any further Help or Suggestions welcomed.

Grazie,
ralphie

:frown:

Please Note:
By the way I have not installed the Touchpad Indicator from MXPI yet. Might that help as Jerry suggested?

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System:
  Kernel: 6.11.7-1-liquorix-amd64 [6.11-11~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.11.7-1-liquorix-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro
    quiet splash
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.36 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.18.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23.4_x64 Libretto May 19  2024 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Dell product: XPS 13 9360 v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Chassis:
    type: 10 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Dell model: 01KT0M v: A00 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Dell v: 2.21.0
    date: 06/02/2022
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 41.4 Wh (100.0%) condition: 41.4/60.0 Wh (69.0%) volts: 8.3 min: 7.6
    model: SMP DELL TP1GT61 type: Li-poly serial: <filter> status: full
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core i5-7200U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Amber/Kaby Lake note: check
    gen: core 7 level: v3 note: check built: 2017 process: Intel 14nm family: 6 model-id: 0x8E (142)
    stepping: 9 microcode: 0xF6
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 tpc: 2 threads: 4 smt: enabled cache: L1: 128 KiB
    desc: d-2x32 KiB; i-2x32 KiB L2: 512 KiB desc: 2x256 KiB L3: 3 MiB desc: 1x3 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1651 high: 2502 min/max: 400/2601 boost: enabled scaling:
    driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 800 2: 800 3: 2502 4: 2502 bogomips: 21599
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling mitigation: Microcode
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
  Type: mmio_stale_data mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed mitigation: IBRS
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: IBRS; IBPB: conditional; STIBP: conditional; RSB filling;
    PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
  Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 620 vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-9.5
    process: Intel 14nm built: 2016-20 ports: active: eDP-1 empty: DP-1,DP-2 bus-ID: 00:02.0
    chip-ID: 8086:5916 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: Realtek Integrated_Webcam_HD type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-5:5
    chip-ID: 0bda:568b class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter>
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.18.0 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915 display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.00x11.22") s-diag: 582mm (22.93")
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 model: Sharp 0x1449 built: 2015 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 166 gamma: 1.2
    size: 294x165mm (11.57x6.5") diag: 337mm (13.3") ratio: 16:9 modes: 1920x1080
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 620 (KBL GT2)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    alternate: snd_soc_skl, snd_soc_avs, snd_sof_pci_intel_skl bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:9d71
    class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.11.7-1-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Rivet Networks
    Killer Wireless-n/a/ac 1535 driver: ath10k_pci v: kernel modules: wl pcie: gen: 1
    speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 3a:00.0 chip-ID: 168c:003e class-ID: 0280 temp: 44.0 C
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-3:3 chip-ID: 0cf3:e301
    class-ID: e001
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.2
    sub-v: 25a hci-v: 4.2
  Info: acl-mtu: 1024:8 sco-mtu: 50:8 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff
    link-mode: peripheral accept service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio,
    telephony
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 119.24 GiB used: 23.95 GiB (20.1%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Toshiba model: THNSNK128GVN8 M.2 2280 128GB
    size: 119.24 GiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 4101 scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 118.99 GiB size: 116.56 GiB (97.96%) used: 23.95 GiB (20.5%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 279 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 2 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 50.0 C pch: 38.5 C mobo: 34.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2131 libs: 1052 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
Info:
  Processes: 239 Uptime: 2h 50m wakeups: 61622 Memory: 3.56 GiB used: 1.98 GiB (55.5%)
  Init: SysVinit v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0
  alt: 12 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

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Re: Touchy Touchpad

#17 Post by CharlesV »

Not sure what your attempting to do anymore, but yes touchpad-indicator can set a lot of things, including Disable touchpad while typing, disable when mouse is plugged in, Touch pad SPEED, scaling and scrolling...

if your having trouble with a touchpad being too sensitive, then use the Mouse and Touchpad application (MX Menu ) , make sure you have your Touchpad selected in the dropdown!, and then you can change speeds, behavior etc.

Between those, you should be able to slow it down or speed it up, get it out of the way etc.. and make it less troublesome.
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Re: Touchy Touchpad

#18 Post by j2mcgreg »

@Gigahenry007 wrote:
By the way I have not installed the Touchpad Indicator from MXPI yet.
Install it and try it out. If you don't find it helpful it's just as easy to uninstall it.
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Re: Touchy Touchpad

#19 Post by Gigahenry007 »

CharlesV wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:02 pm Not sure what your attempting to do anymore, but yes touchpad-indicator can set a lot of things, including Disable touchpad while typing, disable when mouse is plugged in, Touch pad SPEED, scaling and scrolling...

if your having trouble with a touchpad being too sensitive, then use the Mouse and Touchpad application (MX Menu ) , make sure you have your Touchpad selected in the dropdown!, and then you can change speeds, behavior etc.

Between those, you should be able to slow it down or speed it up, get it out of the way etc.. and make it less troublesome.
Thank You!
It's definitely not too speedy...it hangs as if its disabled temporarily. Requires me to wait/tick/tap on the touchpad with my finger. If there is another X nearby I can tap on that or even a blank area on the page where its stuck and that seems to get it to move again. Otherwise the pointer just sits there waiting for the sun to rise or rain to stop.
When I use a mouse the pointer is much faster and would likely need to be slowed down. I get that.
9_9

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Re: Touchy Touchpad

#20 Post by Gigahenry007 »

These erractic type issue(s) are all over the internet. Requiring replacement of the palm rest aka trackpad and even then its no guarantee. Using a wireless mouse imho is not the answer. Defeats the purpose of owning a laptop. Amazing companies get away with this type of thing. Poor assembly one official tech said upon opening it up to replace the trackpad.
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