MX Linux ready for AMD 8700G

[TauTsar]

I'm out of my depth and knowledge of hardware required for such tasks as music production. I believe we have members who would have good hardware recommendations helpful for you. Perhaps a more general question posted asking for hardware recommendations would be useful.

[lilith]

I'm out of my depth and knowledge of hardware required for such tasks as music production. I believe we have members who would have good hardware recommendations helpful for you. Perhaps a more general question posted asking for hardware recommendations would be useful.

It's pretty basic what I need. Any recent AMD or Intel CPU will do the job. What I know is that single core performance is more important than multicore performance.

[lilith]

Here's the answer from chatGPT:

Recommend me a good CPU for music production on a Linux system
ChatGPT:
ChatGPT

When choosing a CPU for music production on a Linux system, you'll want to prioritize a few key factors:

High Core Count: Modern Digital Audio Workstations (DAWs) can benefit from multi-core CPUs, especially when running multiple plugins or virtual instruments.
High Single-Core Performance: Some audio processing tasks, like running certain plugins, still rely heavily on single-core performance.
Compatibility with Linux: Most modern CPUs are compatible with Linux, but it's always good to ensure that the CPU and associated chipset have good support in the Linux kernel.

Recommended CPUs:

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X
Cores/Threads: 16 cores / 32 threads
Base/Boost Clock: 4.5 GHz / 5.7 GHz
L3 Cache: 64MB
TDP: 170W
Why it’s good: The Ryzen 9 7950X offers an excellent balance of high core count and strong single-core performance, making it ideal for handling heavy workloads in a DAW. AMD has good Linux support, and the performance per dollar is hard to beat.

Intel Core i9-13900K
Cores/Threads: 24 cores (8 P-cores + 16 E-cores) / 32 threads
Base/Boost Clock: 3.0 GHz (P-core base) / 5.8 GHz (P-core boost)
L3 Cache: 36MB
TDP: 125W (base) / 253W (max turbo)
Why it’s good: The Core i9-13900K offers a hybrid architecture with a mix of high-performance cores and energy-efficient cores. This is useful for both intensive tasks and background processes in a DAW environment. Intel's support for Linux is generally excellent, making this a top choice.

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Cores/Threads: 8 cores / 16 threads
Base/Boost Clock: 4.2 GHz / 5.0 GHz
L3 Cache: 96MB (3D V-Cache)
TDP: 120W
Why it’s good: The Ryzen 7 7800X3D is known for its massive L3 cache, which can help with workloads that require a lot of fast memory access, like large sample libraries in music production. While it has fewer cores than the Ryzen 9, its unique architecture offers strong performance in certain DAW tasks.

Intel Core i7-13700K
Cores/Threads: 16 cores (8 P-cores + 8 E-cores) / 24 threads
Base/Boost Clock: 3.4 GHz (P-core base) / 5.4 GHz (P-core boost)
L3 Cache: 30MB
TDP: 125W (base) / 253W (max turbo)
Why it’s good: A more affordable option compared to the i9-13900K, the i7-13700K still offers excellent multi-core performance and is more than capable of handling demanding music production tasks.

Conclusion:

For a balance of performance and value, the AMD Ryzen 9 7950X is a top choice. However, if you're looking for maximum single-core performance with a good core count, the Intel Core i9-13900K is also an excellent option. Both CPUs have strong Linux support and should serve you well in any music production environment.

[lilith]

here's another link: https://psymedia.co.za/best-cpu-music-production/

[lilith]

Read this review by phoronix:
https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-ryz ... e_vignette

I would give serious consideration for the Ryzen 7 7800 or Ryzen 9 7900 as alternatives.

Do you mean the Ryzen 7 7800X3D?

Edit: I will go with 65 W, so 7900 would be an option.

yes.
edited to add that you would be wise to check the Linux compatibility of your motherboard as well.

The Ryzen 7 7800X3D has a TDP of 120W and on the AMD site they recommend a liquid cooler for this CPU. But when I check the power consumptions at .phoronix it's much less then 120 W.
And would I profit of the X3D when I use the onboard graphic chip?

There are also audio benchmarks: https://www.phoronix.com/review/ryzen-9600x-9700x/5

[lilith]

The board is an Asus Prime B650M-A AMD B650 Chipsatz 4xDDR5, 2.5GBit LAN, Raid, 2xUSB3.1, 2xUSB3.0, 4xUSB2.0, WiFi II VGA +HDMI +DPort

https://www.asus.com/de/motherboards-co ... a-wifi-ii/

So board is listed here, so I assume it will work:

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-6.3-HWMON

[lilith]

Regarding the 8700G I found this link: https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info ... 21753.html

Gigantic performance, absolutely smooth and smooth computer use (total recommendation)

Officially overhauled an AMD Ryzen 7700X with my new AMD Ryzen 7 8700G @ 5.33GHz (8 cores / 16 threads). 78.56 seconds (AMD Ryzen 7700x) vs 76.25 seconds (my best result even ~75 seconds) in the Timed Linux Kernel Compilation in the Phoronix test suite. Result can be found at: https://openbenchmarking.org/result/240 ... LCTESTON64

Games only work to a limited extent under Linux (PopOS 22.04); most problems will only work with the new MESA update in the upcoming PopOS 24.04. Graphics acceleration, videos, etc. worked perfectly, no crashes, after assembling my system everything worked perfectly with PopOS, I didn't have to readjust anything, all the hardware worked perfectly.

Danger! It is essential that you install BIOS update (2413) from ASUS before using the APU, the reason is that otherwise too much power could be sent to the APU and with weak coolers this means that the system would not work.

[siamhie]

The Ryzen 7 7800X3D has a TDP of 120W and on the AMD site they recommend a liquid cooler for this CPU. But when I check the power consumptions at .phoronix it's much less then 120 W.

TDP stands for Thermal Design Power.

it is used to measure the amount of heat a component is expected to output when under load.
For example, a CPU may have a TDP of 90W and therefore is expected to output 90W worth of heat when in use.

I'm running an AMD Ryzen 9 5950X and their web site says this.

Default TDP 105W
(overclocked to 4.9GHz will be 142W)
Recommended Cooler: Liquid cooler recommended for optimal performance

I using the dual-tower/fan Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 (air cooled) that has a rating of 280W (from the reviews I watched).

[lilith]

The Ryzen 7 7800X3D has a TDP of 120W and on the AMD site they recommend a liquid cooler for this CPU. But when I check the power consumptions at .phoronix it's much less then 120 W.

TDP stands for Thermal Design Power.

it is used to measure the amount of heat a component is expected to output when under load.
For example, a CPU may have a TDP of 90W and therefore is expected to output 90W worth of heat when in use.

I'm running an AMD Ryzen 9 5950X and their web site says this.

Default TDP 105W
(overclocked to 4.9GHz will be 142W)
Recommended Cooler: Liquid cooler recommended for optimal performance

I using the dual-tower/fan Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 (air cooled) that has a rating of 280W (from the reviews I watched).

Thanks, that's the cooler of my offer.

https://www.bequiet.com/de/cpucooler/570

130 W. I think I'm fine with this as I want a 65 W CPU. I also have a microATX board and a rather small case.

https://aerocool.io/product/hexform/

If everything fails with the 8700G (could be I only get problems when gaming, but as I don't game I don't see a problem here) I might switch temporarily to another Distro with Mesa 24.

[siamhie]

I also have a microATX board and a rather small case.

I would head over to pcpartpicker and plug in all of your components (I did this when I built my computer two years ago).
It will tell you if everything will work together, along with case selections. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/