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Re: Install failing on asrock B650E PG wifi mb system

#11 Post by siamhie »

lunix2000 wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 7:13 pm
Yes, that's what I do then it fails to initialize in the way described. Do you know if it is required to have an internet connection? Is there a way that does not require this if so???
No internet is required at this point. When does it fail? (which screenshot)
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Re: Install failing on asrock B650E PG wifi mb system

#12 Post by lunix2000 »

I have it solved now. needed to add a line to grub nomodeset by hitting e in grub menu for install. Then it was smart enough to put this into the install with nothing further done. Otherwise it basically just hangs forever.

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Re: Install failing on asrock B650E PG wifi mb system

#13 Post by j2mcgreg »

From these reports at linux-hardware, it appears that this motherboard is still "too new" for Debian:
https://linux-hardware.org/?id=board:as ... a70add983e

Linux hardware lists a number of distros that supposedly work with this motherboard:
https://linux-hardware.org/?id=board:as ... -lightning
but when you actually read the reports, you will see that they all have several problem areas.
Linux generally lags about a year to eighteen months behind Windows in hardware support. My advice to you is to load Win 11 onto your computer (so that at least you will have a working machine) and over the next few months do live session tests of newer distro ISOs as they are released untill you find one that works well.
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Re: Install failing on asrock B650E PG wifi mb system

#14 Post by siamhie »

lunix2000 wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:00 am I have it solved now. needed to add a line to grub nomodeset by hitting e in grub menu for install.

Not sure why you had to add "nomodset" for an rx6600 card. (which cpu is installed)
I have no problems booting MX-21 and MX-23 live ISO's with my rx6700xt card.
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Re: Install failing on asrock B650E PG wifi mb system

#15 Post by lunix2000 »

Well, the system isinstalled but I seem stuck in 800x600. I installed windows earlier and that works fine in 1920x1080 so the hardware is at least not defective.

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System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-23-amd64 [6.1.99-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-23-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet nomodeset splash
    resume=UUID=<filter> resume_offset=53524480
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.36 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.18.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23.3_x64 Libretto May 19  2024 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: ASRock model: B650E PG Riptide WiFi serial: <superuser required>
    UEFI: American Megatrends LLC. v: 2.02 date: 11/17/2023
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 5 8400F bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 4 gen: 5 level: v4 note: check
    built: 2022+ process: TSMC n5 (5nm) family: 0x19 (25) model-id: 0x75 (117) stepping: 2
    microcode: 0xA705203
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 6 tpc: 2 threads: 12 smt: enabled cache: L1: 384 KiB
    desc: d-6x32 KiB; i-6x32 KiB L2: 6 MiB desc: 6x1024 KiB L3: 16 MiB desc: 1x16 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1600 min/max: 1600/4200 boost: enabled scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq
    governor: ondemand cores: 1: 1600 2: 1600 3: 1600 4: 1600 5: 1600 6: 1600 7: 1600 8: 1600 9: 1600
    10: 1600 11: 1600 12: 1600 bogomips: 100798
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow mitigation: safe RET
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced / Automatic IBRS; IBPB: conditional; STIBP: always-on;
    RSB filling; PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Navi 23 [Radeon RX 6600/6600 XT/6600M] vendor: XFX driver: N/A alternate: amdgpu
    arch: RDNA-2 code: Navi-2x process: TSMC n7 (7nm) built: 2020-22 pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s
    lanes: 16 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:73ff class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: AMD driver: N/A alternate: amdgpu pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16
    bus-ID: 78:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:ffff class-ID: 0300
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.18.0 driver: X: loaded: vesa
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,radeon dri: swrast gpu: N/A display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 800x600 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 212x159mm (8.35x6.26") s-diag: 265mm (10.43")
  Monitor-1: default res: 800x600 hz: 75 size: N/A modes: N/A
  API: OpenGL v: 4.5 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 15.0.6 256 bits) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Navi 21/23 HDMI/DP Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 4
    speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 03:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:ab28 class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD Rembrandt Radeon High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie:
    gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 78:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:1640 class-ID: 0403
  Device-3: AMD Family 17h/19h HD Audio vendor: ASRock driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie:
    gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 78:00.6 chip-ID: 1022:15e3 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-23-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: MEDIATEK MT7921K Wi-Fi 6E 80MHz driver: mt7921e v: kernel modules: wl pcie: gen: 2
    speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 73:00.0 chip-ID: 14c3:0608 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Realtek Killer E3000 2.5GbE vendor: ASRock driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 2
    speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: d000 bus-ID: 74:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:3000 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: MediaTek Wireless_Device type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-5:2
    chip-ID: 0e8d:0608 class-ID: e001 serial: <filter>
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 3.0 lmp-v: 5.2
    sub-v: 2301 hci-v: 5.2 rev: 1717
  Info: acl-mtu: 1021:6 sco-mtu: 240:8 link-policy: rswitch sniff link-mode: peripheral accept
    service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio, telephony
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 1.14 TiB used: 44.16 GiB (3.8%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Western Digital model: WD BLACK SN770 1TB
    size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 731100WD temp: 32.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 type: USB vendor: PNY model: USB 3.2.1 FD size: 230.96 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: PMAP scheme: MBR
  SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 465.63 GiB size: 457.25 GiB (98.20%) used: 43.95 GiB (9.6%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 274 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1
  ID-3: /home raw-size: 465.63 GiB size: 457.25 GiB (98.20%) used: 212.6 MiB (0.0%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3 maj-min: 259:3
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 36.47 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 37.5 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2119 libs: 1049 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
Info:
  Processes: 313 Uptime: 1m wakeups: 1 Memory: 30.48 GiB used: 1.31 GiB (4.3%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

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Re: Install failing on asrock B650E PG wifi mb system

#16 Post by lunix2000 »

All right, I think that debian and ubuntu distros just won't work for now. I have tried about every distro imaginable and with most of them I don't even get it installed. Thankfully, I finally tried fedora and it installed on the first try with no issues and is also in 1920x1080 mode. Not a guarantee it fully works but all good so far. I think it may be the 8400f ryzen 5 that is causing issues. It is new in april but it is based on old tech and I assumed it would be fine but perhaps not.

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Re: Install failing on asrock B650E PG wifi mb system

#17 Post by Stevo »

You mention "MX advanced hardware support", but that's a separate MX edition; the AHS edition. You have the regular version, with the same hardware support as regular Debian 12.

But maybe all you have to do is tell the kernel to use the amdgpu video driver at boot. I know it's pretty easy, but I forget the command because I've never had to use it myself. :bagoverhead:

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Device-1: AMD Navi 23 [Radeon RX 6600/6600 XT/6600M] vendor: XFX driver: N/A alternate: amdgpu
You don't need any Net connection to install at all, but your wi-fi works right off.
Last edited by Stevo on Thu Aug 22, 2024 9:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
MXPI = MX Package Installer
QSI = Quick System Info from menu
The MX Test repository is mostly backports; not the same as Debian testing

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Re: Install failing on asrock B650E PG wifi mb system

#18 Post by lunix2000 »

Stevo wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 4:04 am You mention "MX advanced hardware support", but that's a separate MX edition; the AHS edition. You have the regular version, with the same hardware support as regular Debian 12.

But maybe all you have to do it tell the kernel to use the amdgpu video driver at boot. I know it's pretty easy, but I forget the command because I've never had to use it myself. :bagoverhead:

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Device-1: AMD Navi 23 [Radeon RX 6600/6600 XT/6600M] vendor: XFX driver: N/A alternate: amdgpu
You don't need any Net connection to install at all, but your wi-fi works right off.
That was the last resort. After I update AHS version it did not even boot and no output. It is supposed to use radeon not amdgpu, which is the on chip GPU. I believe it is confused about the processor which is new and is recycled from other ryzen 5 processors because of dead onboard GPU (which I don''t want), repackaged as 8400f. I think fedora likely gets the same error but just ignores it and that is why things are OK.

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Re: Install failing on asrock B650E PG wifi mb system

#19 Post by siamhie »

I would enable the ahs repo (MX Repo Manager) then upgrade your mesa package.
My RX 6700 XT card uses the amdgpu driver.

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inxi -G
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Navi 22 [Radeon RX 6700/6700 XT/6750 XT / 6800M/6850M XT]
    driver: amdgpu v: kernel
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,radeon,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu
    resolution: 2560x1440~165Hz
  API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: kms_swrast,radeonsi,swrast
    platforms: gbm,x11,surfaceless,device
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 vendor: amd mesa v: 23.1.2-1~mx23ahs renderer: AMD
    Radeon RX 6700 XT (navi22 LLVM 15.0.6 DRM 3.49 6.1.0-23-amd64)
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Re: Install failing on asrock B650E PG wifi mb system

#20 Post by siamhie »

lunix2000 wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:18 am
That was the last resort. After I update AHS version it did not even boot and no output. It is supposed to use radeon not amdgpu, which is the on chip GPU. I believe it is confused about the processor which is new and is recycled from other ryzen 5 processors because of dead onboard GPU (which I don''t want), repackaged as 8400f. I think fedora likely gets the same error but just ignores it and that is why things are OK.

Only the G line of CPU's have on-board graphics. Your F doesn't. Ryzen 8000 Series
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