MX 23.3 XFCE ahs 64 live-usb gets unstable after a relative short runtime

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MX 23.3 XFCE ahs 64 live-usb gets unstable after a relative short runtime

#1 Post by mutli55 »

preword: i am running MX as a live-usb for about 1 year, starting with mx 21.3 which i could get alive for months. a month ago i finally upgraded to 23.3. 9 thenth of the using time i am surfing with firefox, which has an amazing fullscreen, and additionally some work with libreoffice. now with 23.3. i am running every 1-2 day into this error. a restart with all settings and a restore of the bookmarks and other files from the cloud will then take me 20 minutes.

error: after 1-2 days of life thunar suddenly informs me by a popup that he just mounted the media stick. that means the end of that session, no more apps could be started (childprocess ...) and a logout leads to a black screen with a blinking cursor. i can get control with ctrl-alt f1 and root login, but so i am not a linux admin, init 6 to restart is my only knowledge.

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System:
  Kernel: 6.8.9-3-liquorix-amd64 [6.8-12~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable rcupdate.rcu_expedited=1 BOOT_IMAGE=/antiX/vmlinuz quiet splasht nosplash
    lang=de_DE kbd=de tz=Europe/Berlin
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.36 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.18.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23.3_ahs_x64 Libretto May 19  2024 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 82XD v: IdeaPad Slim 5 14IRL8 serial: <superuser required>
    Chassis: type: 10 v: IdeaPad Slim 5 14IRL8 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: LENOVO model: LNVNB161216 v: No DPK serial: <superuser required> UEFI: LENOVO v: LACN22WW
    date: 02/17/2023
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT1 charge: 51.3 Wh (100.0%) condition: 51.3/56.6 Wh (90.6%) volts: 12.8 min: 11.5
    model: SMP L22M3PA4 type: Unknown serial: <filter> status: full
CPU:
  Info: model: 13th Gen Intel Core i5-13420H bits: 64 type: MST AMCP arch: Raptor Lake gen: core 13
    level: v3 note: check built: 2022+ process: Intel 7 (10nm) family: 6 model-id: 0xBA (186)
    stepping: 2 microcode: 0x410E
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 8 mt: 4 tpc: 2 st: 4 threads: 12 smt: enabled cache: L1: 704 KiB
    desc: d-4x32 KiB, 4x48 KiB; i-4x32 KiB, 4x64 KiB L2: 7 MiB desc: 4x1.2 MiB, 1x2 MiB L3: 12 MiB
    desc: 1x12 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 548 high: 978 min/max: 400/2601 boost: enabled scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq
    governor: ondemand cores: 1: 978 2: 400 3: 939 4: 400 5: 859 6: 400 7: 600 8: 400 9: 400 10: 400
    11: 400 12: 400 bogomips: 62668
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Vulnerable: No microcode
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced / Automatic IBRS; IBPB: conditional; RSB filling;
    PBRSB-eIBRS: SW sequence; BHI: BHI_DIS_S
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Raptor Lake-P [UHD Graphics] vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel alternate: xe
    arch: Gen-13 process: Intel 7 (10nm) built: 2022+ ports: active: eDP-1 empty: DP-1,DP-2,HDMI-A-1
    bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:a7a8 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: Bison Integrated RGB Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 3-5:3
    chip-ID: 5986:215d class-ID: fe01 serial: <filter>
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.18.0 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915 display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1120x700 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 296x185mm (11.65x7.28") s-diag: 349mm (13.74")
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 model: BOE Display 0x0931 built: 2020 res: 1120x700 hz: 60 dpi: 94 gamma: 1.2
    size: 302x189mm (11.89x7.44") diag: 356mm (14") ratio: 16:10 modes: 2240x1400
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 23.1.2-1~mx23ahs renderer: Mesa Intel Graphics (RPL-P)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel vendor: Lenovo driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel alternate: snd_sof_pci_intel_tgl
    bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:51ca class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.8.9-3-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek vendor: Lenovo driver: rtw89_8852be v: kernel modules: wl pcie: gen: 1
    speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: 3000 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:b852 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
  IF-ID-1: usb0 state: unknown speed: -1 duplex: half mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Realtek Bluetooth Radio type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 3-10:4
    chip-ID: 0bda:4853 class-ID: e001 serial: <filter>
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 4 state: up address: <filter>
  Info: acl-mtu: 1021:6 sco-mtu: 255:12 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff park
    link-mode: peripheral accept service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio,
    telephony
  Device-2: Huawei ATU-L31 type: USB driver: rndis_host v: kernel bus-ID: 3-4:2
    chip-ID: 12d1:108a class-ID: 0a00 serial: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 505.58 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Western Digital model: WD PC SN740 SDDPMQD-512G-1101
    size: 476.94 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 73110001 temp: 27.9 C
  ID-2: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 type: USB vendor: SanDisk model: USB 3.2Gen1 size: 28.64 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 1.00 scheme: MBR
  SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
Partition:
  Message: No partition data found.
Swap:
  Alert: No swap data was found.
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 47.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2115 libs: 1052 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
Info:
  Processes: 355 Uptime: 3h 11m wakeups: 52748 Memory: 7.49 GiB used: 2.74 GiB (36.5%)
  Init: SysVinit v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0
  alt: 12 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI
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Re: MX 23.3 XFCE ahs 64 live-usb gets unstable after a relative short runtime

#2 Post by j2mcgreg »

Does the behaviour persist if you use a different thumb drive?
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Re: MX 23.3 XFCE ahs 64 live-usb gets unstable after a relative short runtime

#3 Post by mutli55 »

🙁 would be shameful. i need a couple of days to examine.
i am owning and using only one stick since years. writing a new mx distro (.iso) onto it is a periodic hard fight on my w10 desktop.
(diskpart-select-clean and an additional command if clean throws error and not forget to run etcher as admin)
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Re: MX 23.3 XFCE ahs 64 live-usb gets unstable after a relative short runtime

#4 Post by j2mcgreg »

mutli55 wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 8:10 am 🙁 would be shameful. i need a couple of days to examine.
i am owning and using only one stick since years. writing a new mx distro (.iso) onto it is a periodic hard fight on my w10 desktop.
(diskpart-select-clean and an additional command if clean throws error and not forget to run etcher as admin)
USB thumb drives aren't nearly as robust as we think they are IE they wear out. If you have been using the same stick continuously for a couple of years or more, then "old age" is the likely culprit.
HP 15; ryzen 3 5300U APU; 500 Gb SSD; 8GB ram
HP 17; ryzen 3 3200; 500 GB SSD; 12 GB ram
Idea Center 3; 12 gen i5; 256 GB ssd;

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