What about a regular MX Linux with AV Linux config?

[AVLinux]

@MelodyNaive

You can certainly install other Desktop Environments into AV Linux if you want from the MX Package Installer, some Menu items and customizations may not appear as they are intended, if you remove Thunar (ie install KDE with Dolphin) you will lose dozens of handy specialized Custom Actions... I test installed XFCE4 on my development box and it worked as expected although I uninstalled it within minutes due to it's terribly broken handling of it's native scaling on a 4K monitor..

[MelodyNaive]

@MelodyNaive

You can certainly install other Desktop Environments into AV Linux if you want from the MX Package Installer, some Menu items and customizations may not appear as they are intended, if you remove Thunar you will lose dozens of specialized Custom Actions... I test installed XFCE4 on my development box and it worked as expected although I uninstalled it within minutes due to it's terribly broken handling of it's native scaling on a 4K monitor..

Thank you. I don't really know what is included in a DE. Seems like all the same apps are around when I switched. I might be limited by using a 10yo laptop.

What does "udev-rules-ardour" do? I get that it puts a config file(s) in /etc/udev/rules.d. But I just installed it in this MX23 xfce that I fixed up using the realtime quick config's help, to be supposedly audio ready. I rebooted & now I can't find any difference in how Ardour interacts with my hardware (only DAW I am using right now with a laptop & audio interface) than before.

I did already spend a bunch of time with the pipewire qpwgraph hooking up in & outs, so maybe udev-rules-ardour woulda done that for me default? Tho last night I did:

copy /usr/share/doc/pipewire/examples/ld.so.conf.d/pipewire-jack-x86*.conf
to
/etc/ld.so.conf.d/
then did ldconfig to get it working last night. IIrc I couldn't get ardour to use pipewire through its JACK option (audacity has a pipewire option but not ardour). A redditor gave that command to someone & it worked for me. It supposedly tells programs that use jack to use pipewire.

Does udev-rules-ardour accomplish something similar thru a different means?

[AVLinux]

So you see that AV Linux has several tweaks and conveniences that MX doesn't do by default..

'udev-rules-ardour' has nothing to do with routing Audio, they are a set of udev rules to enable better hardware performance of certain specific devices and improve Ardour's latency by setting udev permissions for CPU's that support setting latency dma variables.

https://github.com/Ardour/ardour/tree/master/tools/udev

[Tony45]

@siamhe
Thanks for the link. That's what I was looking for.
I had been at bandshed-net several times, but didn't see the 21.3.
I must be getting old. Maybe using binoculars instead of reading glasses might help

[siamhie]

@siamhe
Thanks for the link. That's what I was looking for.
I had been at bandshed-net several times, but didn't see the 21.3.
I must be getting old. Maybe using binoculars instead of reading glasses might help

@Tony45 You won't find any links to MX-21 AVL on the web site because he is supporting the MX-23 version now.
I just back tracked the hosting link and saw the MX-21 directory.

[Tony45]

@siamhie
Yes, I realized this later on.
Regardless, Thank you.
I had a look at it on USB and I like what I see.
EDIT
I installed on HD + fully updated + working snapshot
All seems OK
Thanks

[cinclus]

...
@Tony45 You won't find any links to MX-21 AVL on the web site because he is supporting the MX-23 version now.
I just back tracked the hosting link and saw the MX-21 directory.

Where should I upload AV_Linux_MX_Edition-21.3_ahs_x64.iso?

[Eadwine Rose]

Are you intending to share a respin of AVL?

[cinclus]

Before I would have to investigate if I can solve my problem with MS Office under wine in that version.
Other question would be if I could use pipewie/wireplumber.

[AVLinux]

AVL 21.3 uses the former JACK/Pulse/pajackconnect Audio setup which worked very well at the time, it is based on MX-21 and Debian 11 (oldstable) and unless you want to root around in 'debian-backports-sloppy' or compile PipeWire and new dependencies for yourself you will not get up to date PipeWire Packages in there, even mighty @Stevo isn't maintaining Pipewire for MX-21 based systems because the supporting dependencies have changed too much. I'm fine with and encourage using MX's Snapshot to craft your own AV Linux build but if you're going to share it with others you will need to make a clear name change and indicate it is a Respin please.

In general I'm extremely puzzled why people gripe about the new AVL-23 Enlightenment Desktop and and vaguely complain they "don't like it" or "can't get things to work" but I get pitifully few specific questions about actual issues like "How do I change the Icon theme?" or "How can I add a new wallpaper?" or "this Program isn't launching" I feel like I receive far more opinions than actual bug reports and I can give usage instructions but I'm not in the business of changing opinions...