Burst in sound AvLinux MXe23.2

[SjzstudioMK]

My new machine with an AMD Ryzen 7900X and TUF GAMING B650-PLUS configuration has nasty symptoms. The sound card is RME UFX+. It appears with Mixbus 10 Pro DAW and Ardour and Reaper, fairly reasonable buffer size of 512 and below. What could be wrong here.
DSP is not high.

The machine runs cool. I am confused. Or is this configuration too new for Linux? So do I have to wait for the drivers etc. to be updated?

Bios has power savings off, as well as multi threading off. No overclocking enabled.

This is using ALSA.
If I change the PipeWire, the situation is better, but there is a quiet crackle in the sound every now and then.

Below is a link where you can hear what is happening.
https://e.pcloud.link/publink/show?code ... 9lfybHauX7

EDIT:

Someone has had similar problems with the MOTU inteface. With Manjaro Linux. I don't know if the root cause could be the same
https://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?t=26865

[CharlesV]

Please post your QSI. ( MX Menu, Quick System Info, Copy for Forum, Paste here )

[SjzstudioMK]

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Snapshot created on: 20240218_1856
System:
  Kernel: 6.8.7-2-liquorix-amd64 [6.8-8~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable rcupdate.rcu_expedited=1 BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.8.7-2-liquorix-amd64
    root=UUID=<filter> ro threadirqs quiet init=/lib/systemd/systemd
  Desktop: Enlightenment v: 0.25.4 vt: 7 dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: AVL_MXE-23.1-20240115_x64
    Enlightened January 15 2024 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: ASUS product: N/A v: N/A serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: ASUSTeK model: TUF GAMING B650-PLUS v: Rev 1.xx serial: <superuser required>
    UEFI: American Megatrends v: 2413 date: 02/04/2024
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Zen 4 gen: 5 level: v4 note: check
    built: 2022+ process: TSMC n5 (5nm) family: 0x19 (25) model-id: 0x61 (97) stepping: 2
    microcode: 0xA601206
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 12 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 768 KiB desc: d-12x32 KiB; i-12x32
    KiB L2: 12 MiB desc: 12x1024 KiB L3: 64 MiB desc: 2x32 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 400 min/max: 400/5733 scaling: driver: amd-pstate-epp governor: performance
    cores: 1: 400 2: 400 3: 400 4: 400 5: 400 6: 400 7: 400 8: 400 9: 400 10: 400 11: 400 12: 400
    bogomips: 112584
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow mitigation: Safe RET
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced / Automatic IBRS; IBPB: conditional; STIBP: disabled;
    RSB filling; PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Raphael vendor: ASUSTeK driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: RDNA-2 code: Navi-2x
    process: TSMC n7 (7nm) built: 2020-22 pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 ports:
    active: HDMI-A-1 empty: DP-1,Writeback-1 bus-ID: 0c:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:164e class-ID: 0300
    temp: 28.0 C
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: enlightenment driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 507x285mm (19.96x11.22") s-diag: 582mm (22.9")
  Monitor-1: HDMI-A-1 mapped: HDMI-A-0 model: AOC Q3279WG5B serial: <filter> built: 2017
    res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 67 gamma: 1.2 size: 725x428mm (28.54x16.85") diag: 842mm (33.1")
    ratio: 15:9 modes: max: 2560x1440 min: 720x400
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 23.1.2-1~mx23ahs renderer: AMD Radeon Graphics (raphael_mendocino LLVM
    15.0.6 DRM 3.57 6.8.7-2-liquorix-amd64) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Rembrandt Radeon High Definition Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel
    v: kernel bus-ID: 1-2:2 pcie: chip-ID: 2a39:3fd1 class-ID: 0103 gen: 4 serial: <filter>
    speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 0c:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:1640 class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD Family 17h/19h HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie:
    gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 0c:00.6 chip-ID: 1022:15e3 class-ID: 0403
  Device-3: RME Fireface UFX+ type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio
  API: ALSA v: k6.8.7-2-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8125 2.5GbE vendor: ASUSTeK driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 2
    speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: f000 bus-ID: 07:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8125 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eno1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 3.47 TiB used: 138.49 GiB (3.9%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:2 vendor: Kingston model: SNV2S1000G size: 931.51 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter>
    rev: SBM02103 temp: 16.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 970 EVO Plus 500GB
    size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 2B2QEXM7 temp: 21.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-3: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 QVO 1TB size: 931.51 GiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 2B6Q scheme: MBR
  ID-4: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 QVO 1TB size: 931.51 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 2B6Q
    scheme: MBR
  ID-5: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 vendor: Western Digital model: WD3200AAKS-75L9A0 size: 298.09 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 3E01
    scheme: MBR
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 493.57 GiB size: 484.75 GiB (98.21%) used: 28.6 GiB (5.9%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 274 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1
  ID-3: /home raw-size: 437.69 GiB size: 429.75 GiB (98.19%) used: 12.94 GiB (3.0%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sda3 maj-min: 8:3
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 10 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 8 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 32.6 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 29.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: 2511 pm: dpkg pkgs: 2505 libs: 1468 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 6
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/helineva-net.list
    1: deb http://helineva.net/deb xenial main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb https://mirror.one.com/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb https://mirror.one.com/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
Info:
  Processes: 418 Uptime: 1m wakeups: 0 Memory: 62.03 GiB used: 2 GiB (3.2%) Init: systemd v: 252
  target: graphical (5) default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

[CharlesV]

Yes, you might try getting the very latest linux-firmware.

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/ke ... mware.git/


If you need / want instructions on doing it. You can :
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Save a copy of your current /lib/firmware/ just in case..

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cp -r /lib/firmware ~/Backup

and then
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wget https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/snapshot/linux-firmware-20240410.tar.gz ; tar -xf linux-firmware-20240410.tar.gz ; cd linux-firmware-20240410.tar.gz ; sudo cp -R * /lib/firmware/ ; sudo update-initramfs -uk all

[SjzstudioMK]

I tried updating the firmware for this old home computer. Seemed work. Probably, the update can also be done on the studio machine, so I'll do the same on the studio machine tomorrow.
Asus has also released a new Bios update. Is it of any use?

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-compo ... -B650-PLUS

[CharlesV]

IDK about that. This post seems to have some people saying it has helped them with various issues (none are sound), but then some saying that they are now BSOD . so.. mixed bag

https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/ ... os_thread/


And I dont see any release notes other than the ones on the link you provided - which says about zip
"Update AGESA version to Combo 1.1.7.0 patch A to support next generation AMD Ryzen™ processors"

[SjzstudioMK]

I did those actions. I also updated Pipewire from the Test repo to the latest one. The situation improved a little. But now, when starting up, Mixbus gives a warning as shown in the picture.

[SjzstudioMK]

I reinstalled the operating system. I updated Pipewire to the latest version and also the linux firmware.

I tested with another sound card. RME Firefice 802. The problem is similar. I also tested the Behringer U-Phoria UMC202HD, with which everything works fine, no glitches. So these are USB devices. UFX+ is a USB3 device that works in Class compliant mode as a USB2 device. 802 when connecting USB3 the situation became worse and noises start to be heard. Behringer U-Phoria UMC202HD when connecting to the USB3 port there is no noises.

In conclusion, I wonder why with RME sound cards this problem occurs? And why there are no problems with Behringer. It remains stable even with settings of 64 samples, even in this session with over 30 tracks. Probably the PC is fine. But can something be done about it on the Linux side?

[CharlesV]

Have you tried what this poster suggested?
https://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.ph ... 08#p165808

[SjzstudioMK]

This seems to work. But making that change permanent creates a problem. How to do it right?