What about a regular MX Linux with AV Linux config?

[Zeke]

As a studio muscian, sideman, touring musician for the last 50 years I've had numerous instances where I've needed to digitize, tweak, remaster, etc. audio files whether recorded by me or from media given to me from the venues I've played in. Other than that, I create audio/visual material for a number of university profs and lecturers who are doing online courses and require help.

As far as direct-to-disk recording goes, I'm very "old-school". For more than solo work, I have a small PA system that, once all is mixed to everyone's liking in the console, I can connect via usb, record, and then master in my DAW of choice. Similar with a solo recording, but often option for my H2 Zoom and then transfer the audio to the computer for touch-ups.

All of this work is done (now and in the past) on my rigs that utilize a Linux OS and FOSS software include in the standard repos. Since 2017, I've been using MX Linux as my daily driver. The present iteration (MX-23) has everthing I need to perform my audio/visual tasks. Exceptions from what I can install from Synaptic (e.g., Ardour, Audacity, Ladspa Plugins, LMMS, LV2 Plugins Qsynth, Qjackctl, Rosegarden) would be recent AppImages (Shotcut, CinelerraGG, Qtractor, Avidemux, Krita, Kdenlive, Musescore) along with Reaper on Wine-Staging with a few Vsts mostly Reverbs, Compression, and Mastering (all freeware .dlls). Absolutely no reason to use anything from MX's Test Repos ... Long-story-short, it's easy-peasy rolling your own MX multimedia provisions. For me everything just works, the only caveat being Ardour not being able to use Jack (as GMaq points out, use ALSA as the back-end). Qtractor (latest AppImage), Qsynth, Rosegarden, function perfectly with Qjackctl.

Given that a user is already familiar with MX Linux, and that their hardware flawlessly supports it, there's no reason whatsoever for someone not to be able to roll their own multimedia workhorse.

Now briefly to AVLinux ... GMaq has done an incredible job (actually, a herculean task!) in presenting the functionality of using Pipewire and also Qpwgraph as an alternative to Qjackctrl. This is an important and gargantuan step to take insofar as PW is the future Linux sound-server. His is the ONLY multimedia distro to have come to grips with this innovation. With the dated version of PW in MX-23 that he had to work with, it is quite remarkable. For many seasoned music-creators with compatible rigs, the system works perfectly OOTB. Given the fact that MX-23 has an EOL of 2028, GMaq would have plenty of time to reckon with the most recent version of PW for better all-round support, including Jack! Maybe it just might cure Ardour-Jack woes!

To all this, I say to GMaq that I hope you continue what you've begun ... tweaking PW (and Enlightenment BTW) with what's coming down the pike and that we'll eventually see a newer and greater AVLinux. Maybe more stripped-down, no more commercial software or plugins and a more-curated selection of some very basic free VSTs?

Finally, no need for another MX-variant. If XFCE/KDE users want to roll their own, they can ... XFCE users can already (forever ... as long as their hardware lives!) avail themselves of your MX-21 XFCE version.

Take care GMaq!

[Be OK]

@AVLinux Indeed that E has advance over xfce and use it only my old brain cant find any how-to use E and AVL with PW.
Thats why i fall back on 21 as i know how to use that.As you had not made that video only thing i was setting up was the wifi :)

@Zeke Yes Gmac is providing a excellent product and that all in his free time,only the change to E and PW is to much (for me).I wait on some more how-to from users ,that are slowly comming.

[pianokeyjoe]

Soo.. I love Linux and especially the multiple desktops and WMs I can run on it that I have always wanted to use Linux for my main passion: music making and listening.. Finally there is a powerful and most customizable Linux distro that allows all my computing dreams to come true! MX LINUX!! Yes.. I shouted on that one lol! See? GMaq has, all the way from the land of Romance(quoted from a national geographics mag from the 90s)brought to us that dream come true in a most spectacular way! I now finally have Enlightenment with music making in Linux instead of a fake Enlightenment desktop interface on Windows XP/7 with music making apps.. So because of AV and MX combined, I have ditched Windows for most of my computer and music making needs! Now I am still needing FL studio to work in Linux and Sonar(Cakewalk) to work in Linux, but there are so many good alternatives for Linux now that actually work, that I can possibly ditch those apps too!? I mean.. really! LOL! My hat off to you sir! Yes, I would love a meta package for AVL-MXE that can add/convert my MX distro into a music making power house in one swell foop.. if you will. kx studio did it, why not you? Now I do customize the heck out of AVL-MXE distros I get ahold of so alot of the things others gripe or stumble over, do not affect me since I go all tinker happy and live on the edge anyway. I always wanted an "ENLIGHTENMENT OS", computing.. My Way! Style Distro/OS that I faked with Windows XP and shell/GUI hacking apps and alot of music apps.. Now we have that "OS". Thankyou again @AVLinux. Yes please! To a meta package for MX

[Zeke]

@pianokeyjoe
GMaq already posted why a metapackage would be unfeasible. Please see post #3.

@GMaq
Just an aside ... I wanted to download some of your Hydrogen Drumkits from Bandshed but my browser (FF) warned me about an insecure connection.

[pianokeyjoe]

@pianokeyjoe
GMaq already posted why a metapackage would be unfeasible. Please see post #3.

@GMaq
Just an aside ... I wanted to download some of your Hydrogen Drumkits from Bandshed but my browser (FF) warned me about an insecure connection.

I got it.. ah well.. I will just keep using and tweaking AVL-MXE. No loss there!

[artytux]

@Zeke

@GMaq
Just an aside ... I wanted to download some of your Hydrogen Drumkits from Bandshed but my browser (FF) warned me about an insecure connection.

I have similar with Firefox (getting tried of FF) going to YouTube and Reddit so tried SeaMonkey and worked and it SeaMonkey loaded Reddit & YT site/pages as always in Life "The decision is yours" I can only suggest what works here from my keyboard.

[siamhie]

@pianokeyjoe
GMaq already posted why a metapackage would be unfeasible. Please see post #3.

@GMaq
Just an aside ... I wanted to download some of your Hydrogen Drumkits from Bandshed but my browser (FF) warned me about an insecure connection.

@Zeke That's because the connection is HTTP and not HTTPS. I believe FF enables HTTPS-Only by default. (Edit > Settings > Privacy & Security > HTTPS-Only Mode)

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Turn off HTTPS-Only Mode for certain sites
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/ht ... tain-sites

[rokytnji.1]

Firefox-ESR already comes with https disabled in settings. Just for info.

[Karl Marx]

Hi,

Just floating an idea that's been rolling around in my brain...

Since there are mixed reviews on AV Linux with Enlightenment (I will not personally be going back to XFCE4) what if in the future (ie next Debian Trixie) there was no distributed "AV Linux" and simply a custom 'media' build of vanilla MX XFCE4 | KDE ??

Essentially:

MX official releases as they are themed and presented with their defaults PLUS:

- Replacement liquorix kernel
- Wine-Staging + yabridge + wineasio
- AV Linux performance configurations (/etc/default stuff)
- AV Linux PipeWire-JACK extra configs + PW metadata tool
- AV Linux utilities and helper scripts (YADbridge, Wine-Audio-Utils, Sysedit)
- Official Ardour bundles and a nice selection of pre-installed Audio Plugins
- Much less in-depth stuff like the numerous specialized custom actions that most people don't seem to be aware of anyway..

Obviously the ISO names would need to be changed to indicate the custom media spin, but essentially at first glance just a good 'ole MX Linux ISO with some extras... Thoughts??

Yes please! I have been wondering, why it wasn't like this in the first place? I must admit, that I never have really used AVLinux, although I have tried it. I also watched the long Video to educate my self. Well, here are some of the problems for me: 1. Enlightenment. People are choosing MX-Linux, because they want a distro, without systemd. Enlightenment relays heavily on systemd. I understand the wish for something new and light, but I think that for example LXQT, would have been the better choice. LXQT is light, fresh, easy to configure and ready for Wayland! 2. All the proprietary software that comes with AVLinux is just a big NO-NO for me! If it would have been optional, as in Opt-In, but I can't understand the chosen path. 3. Same goes for WINE, Wine-Audio-Utils, YADBridge and other programs for running proprietary windows software. Opt-In-> Yes! Opt-Out-> Big NO-NO for me. Just my thoughts.

[Karl Marx]

Hi,

Just floating an idea that's been rolling around in my brain...

Since there are mixed reviews on AV Linux with Enlightenment (I will not personally be going back to XFCE4) what if in the future (ie next Debian Trixie) there was no distributed "AV Linux" and simply a custom 'media' build of vanilla MX XFCE4 | KDE ??

Essentially:

MX official releases as they are themed and presented with their defaults PLUS:

- Replacement liquorix kernel
- Wine-Staging + yabridge + wineasio
- AV Linux performance configurations (/etc/default stuff)
- AV Linux PipeWire-JACK extra configs + PW metadata tool
- AV Linux utilities and helper scripts (YADbridge, Wine-Audio-Utils, Sysedit)
- Official Ardour bundles and a nice selection of pre-installed Audio Plugins
- Much less in-depth stuff like the numerous specialized custom actions that most people don't seem to be aware of anyway..

Obviously the ISO names would need to be changed to indicate the custom media spin, but essentially at first glance just a good 'ole MX Linux ISO with some extras... Thoughts??

Yes please! I have been wondering, why it wasn't like this in the first place? I must admit, that I never have really used AVLinux, although I have tried it. I also watched the long Video to educate my self. Well, here are some of the problems for me: 1. Enlightenment. People are choosing MX-Linux, because they want a distro, without systemd. Enlightenment relays heavily on systemd. I understand the wish for something new and light, but I think that for example LXQT, would have been the better choice. LXQT is light, fresh, easy to configure and ready for Wayland! 2. All the proprietary software that comes with AVLinux is just a big NO-NO for me! If it would have been optional, as in Opt-In, but I can't understand the chosen path. 3. Same goes for WINE, Wine-Audio-Utils, YADBridge and other programs for running proprietary windows software. Opt-In-> Yes! Opt-Out-> Big NO-NO for me. Just my thoughts.

Sorry for my bad English :-)