A weird situation....CLOSED !

[fanisatt]

I'm having a weird problem and Ι would really appreciate any help you can give. I am running an appimage (in MX 21) which does work but ... not fully , it does not execute external calls to system applications, such as e.g. the yad file selector or anything else generally. Trying the same appimage in other operating systems such as Debian or Ubuntu I can't see this peculiarity. I would appreciate any attempt for help..! Thank you !

[j2mcgreg]

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[asqwerth]

Appimages are not 100% guaranteed to work as is. They only get packed with whatever libraries and dependencies that the dev THINKS is needed to work for various distros, so some libraries may have been overlooked. If the dev was creating the appimage on the latest Ubuntu for instance, maybe some libraries needed for older Debian might not have been included if the dev assumed all releases of Debian would have that library.

It might be helpful to see what error messages you get if you run the appimage from terminal.

See https://docs.appimage.org/introduction/quickstart.html for how to do that.

And what appimage is it?

[Eadwine Rose]

For next time, please make your subject more about what is going on. Weird situation is less likely to get help here than "appimage doesn't execute".

[fanisatt]

@j2mcgreg
Done !

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System:    Kernel: 5.10.0-28-amd64 [5.10.209-2] x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-28-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.18.1 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.18.0 vt: 7 
           dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-21.3_x64 Wildflower October 20  2021 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: X38-DS5 v: N/A serial: <filter> Chassis: 
           type: 3 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Gigabyte model: X38-DQ6 v: x.x serial: <filter> BIOS: Award v: F4 
           date: 11/06/2007 
CPU:       Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 Duo E8400 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Penryn family: 6 
           model-id: 17 (23) stepping: 6 microcode: 60F cache: L2: 6 MiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 11997 
           Speed: 2259 MHz min/max: N/A Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2259 2: 2318 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected 
           Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: EPT disabled 
           Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations 
           Type: retbleed status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 
           mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA GK208B [GeForce GT 710] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: nvidia v: 470.223.02 
           bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:128b class-ID: 0300 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.18.0 driver: loaded: nvidia 
           unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa alternate: nv display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 101 s-size: 482x271mm (19.0x10.7") 
           s-diag: 553mm (21.8") 
           Monitor-1: DVI-D-0 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 102 size: 480x268mm (18.9x10.6") 
           diag: 550mm (21.6") 
           OpenGL: renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GT 710/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 470.223.02 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 82801I HD Audio vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:293e class-ID: 0403 
           Device-2: NVIDIA GK208 HDMI/DP Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0e0f class-ID: 0403 
           Device-3: VIA VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT] PCI Multi-Channel Audio driver: N/A 
           alternate: snd_ice1724 bus-ID: 06:00.0 chip-ID: 1412:1724 class-ID: 0401 
           Device-4: Creative Labs EMU10k1 [Sound Blaster Live! Series] driver: snd_emu10k1 
           v: kernel bus-ID: 06:01.0 chip-ID: 1102:0002 class-ID: 0401 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.0-28-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Gigabyte 
           driver: r8169 v: kernel port: c000 bus-ID: 05:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 1.14 TiB used: 405.05 GiB (34.8%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 840 EVO 250GB size: 232.88 GiB 
           block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> 
           rev: BB6Q scheme: MBR 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Western Digital model: WD2500AAJS-00B4A0 
           size: 232.89 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: N/A 
           serial: <filter> rev: 3A01 scheme: MBR 
           ID-3: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 vendor: Western Digital model: WD2500AAKX-60U6AA0 
           size: 232.89 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 1.5 Gb/s type: HDD 
           rpm: 7200 serial: <filter> rev: 1H18 scheme: MBR 
           ID-4: /dev/sdd maj-min: 8:48 vendor: Western Digital model: WD5000AAKS-00UU3A0 
           size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: N/A 
           serial: <filter> rev: 3B01 scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw-size: 78.29 GiB size: 76.51 GiB (97.72%) used: 40.04 GiB (52.3%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 
Swap:      Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) 
           ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 9.49 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 
           dev: /dev/sdb2 maj-min: 8:18 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 45.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 33 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 2840 lib: 1552 flatpak: 0 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ bullseye main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-earth-pro.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/earth/deb/ stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.cc.uoc.gr/mirrors/linux/mx/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
Info:      Processes: 209 Uptime: 1h 36m wakeups: 1 Memory: 7.76 GiB used: 1.45 GiB (18.7%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 
           alt: 10 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.1.4-release inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)

[fanisatt]

@asqwerth , @Eadwine Rose
Oh yes I understand !!
This appimage is of personal interest to me, because it comes from my own C program! So I've been trying for 2 years and with an older version of MX to make it run normally. I assumed that something must be wrong with the way the appimage was created, so I then I reported the fact to appimage creator. Of course, most creators have a tendency to think that their creation is perfect (!!) until proven otherwise, of course...!
Misunderstood at first...then he worked on it a bit...and came finally to the conclusion that his appimage creation program is fine for MX Linux OS as well.
So...I didn't stick to my claim...in vain !!!
It is a fact that the same appimage works perfectly in other popular OSes !
I thought it would be good to report it to you...after I got tired of trying it myself...maybe there was a permissions issue or some other settings issue...
Anyway ... many thanks for your interest !!
F.A.

[MXRobo]

I definitely don't know this stuff – really, and I'm not sure what you mean by

because it comes from my own C program!

but could it be a SysVinit issue because that's what MX uses by default, you can boot to systemd, and change to it via MX-Boot Options.

Again purely speculating - good luck!

[fanisatt]

...and this is a part of the C program , it is a simple call to the external application "firefox" ! Unfortunately it doesn't respond and doesn't even return an error message. In general, the commands commands execl and popen ... somehow do not work (only to the apppimage environment)!

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switch (user_ans) {

case 0 :
if (nofire) {i=1 ; break;}
strcpy (big_char,str1kb);
orisma[2]=big_char;
pid = fork();
if (pid<0) {perror("Fork...");break;}
else if (pid==0) {execl("/usr/bin/firefox","firefox","--new-tab",orisma[2],(char *)NULL); _exit(1);}
else {waitpid(pid,&status,WNOHANG);}
break ;

case 1 :
....etc
break;
}

[fanisatt]

@MXRobo
And yet it's very likely to be as you say...some specificity I'm looking for...I just don't know the functional details and I'm afraid to mess with them !!
This is my application : https://sourceforge.net/projects/eortologio-gr/
Many thanks...!!

[davidy]

Considering you post in english but the appimage, or the folder extracted, both default to greek when opened with nary a way to change the language. Ya got me. No fullscreen either? Busy ap but I doubt many if any here speak greek.
As they say, "It's all greek to me"