Here's the sort of scenario that would be necessary for a mass migration to Linux:
1. Microsoft issues an update that causes wiespread data loss in both the consumer and enterprise sectors with the only option being reinstall / restore from backups
2. Most users, despite their best intentions, have not backed up their data and see their loss as beingMicrosoft’s fault
3. Microsoft’s attempts at fixing the mess are about as effective as Boeing’s at fixing the 737 Max
4. In order to keep moving product, one of the big five( Acer, Asus, Dell, HP, Lenovo) actively starts promoting Linux as the alternative.
Otherwise people will stay with what they know until there is a compelling economic reason to change.
Yes, about all that old Windows 10 hardware.....
Re: Yes, about all that old Windows 10 hardware.....
HP 15; ryzen 3 5300U APU; 500 Gb SSD; 8GB ram
HP 17; ryzen 3 3200; 500 GB SSD; 12 GB ram
Idea Center 3; 12 gen i5; 256 GB ssd;
In Linux, newer isn't always better. The best solution is the one that works.
HP 17; ryzen 3 3200; 500 GB SSD; 12 GB ram
Idea Center 3; 12 gen i5; 256 GB ssd;
In Linux, newer isn't always better. The best solution is the one that works.
Re: Yes, about all that old Windows 10 hardware.....
Yeahhh, that's already happened. lol https://web.archive.org/web/20230324191 ... les-files/j2mcgreg wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:49 am Here's the sort of scenario that would be necessary for a mass migration to Linux:
1. Microsoft issues an update that causes wiespread data loss in both the consumer and enterprise sectors with the only option being reinstall / restore from backups
There's also been... MANY massive incidents with Windows 11 as well. But Linux IS gaining marketshare fast, even putting aside ChromeOS (and we should put it aside, because let's be honest, it's only use is to lock down enterprise and school computers). 4% is definitely nothing to sneeze at. I know this is a learned pessimism but I really wish you guys weren't so gloomy about this.
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artytux wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:32 pm Thanks for the link but the screenshot says it all,
Nevermind would have been a good read.
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Try this link instead. https://www.howtogeek.com/658194/window ... les-again/
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Re: Yes, about all that old Windows 10 hardware.....
Thanks @siamhie works, I have a sad feeling for those Windows users it's not their fault, such a shame and shambles, Ooh wait should go read it, not assume.
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Re: Yes, about all that old Windows 10 hardware.....
The links I followed led to this , on this link

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/win ... 5e92dddeb2
Since there might be some Win users here, might be helpful
Seems the image is gone portrait not landscape mode HUH.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/win ... 5e92dddeb2
Since there might be some Win users here, might be helpful
Seems the image is gone portrait not landscape mode HUH.
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Re: Yes, about all that old Windows 10 hardware.....
Well, that's annoying. My mistake. I updated the link in my post with an archived version from archive.org.artytux wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:32 pm Thanks for the link but the screenshot says it all,
Nevermind would have been a good read.
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My first thoughts were Microsoft pulled the article Uh Nah can't do that, siamhie got it in the while.
The updated link good.
Thanks Though.
The updated link good.
Thanks Though.
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Re: Yes, about all that old Windows 10 hardware.....
Same, I moved because Windows 7 extended support was on the chopping block at the time.Arnox wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:26 am Former Windows fan and veteran here, now refugee after the massive disaster that was 10, and then the afterbirth of a sequel that was 11...
You think most people care? I've heard this "Windows has never been this bad" style rhetoric since the first time I heard of the Year of the Linux Desktop. Maybe Windows is as bad as anything, but most people don't care, at least not enough to make the (often gargantuan) effort to jump ship. The majority now use Windows 10, they'll just jump to Windows 11. Or even Windows 12. I doubt there will be a massive hoard of new Linux users (as in, jumping from 1% to 10%) but sure, some people will move to Linux. It is worth having realistic expectations based on real data.Arnox wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:26 amLook, I understand why some Linux veterans here are skeptical about any year being the "year of the Linux desktop," but trust me, lads, and take it from me. Windows has never been this bad for this long with so few options for a good OS available (but they ARE still there, thank goodness for MX, AntiX, and, of course, Debian). And what's more, the idiocy and mismanagement in modern day Windows looks like it will only be getting worse now, not better. Windows 7 and even 8.1 used to be a trusty refuge from the xxxxxxx storm, but 7/8.1 is now just too damn old these days for any serious modern work, and the only good full Windows replacement that I know of nowadays is MX Linux. (Or AntiX if you need a very light OS.) You could also do vanilla Debian or Linux Mint Debian Edition, but those are just more stripped down versions of MX.
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Re: Yes, about all that old Windows 10 hardware.....
I think we can all agree here that this is being partially driven by the hardware. It is the same old story as the radar gun vs. radar detectors. I guess we should be glad for the moment that we can still gain access to our core UEFI/BIOS, but I see that going away (or only at the hardware developer level) soon. Everything in these machines now are so mutually exclusive (tinker with the registry/settings, system stops updating OS and hardware). And I am really getting concerned recently with all the graphics coding getting locked down for HDR and 4K. It will be an outright war with providers of GPU as to who will provide open source drivers for Linux. Graphics were developed agnostic to the OS by the major universities as a project for the computer science departments for the good of the system. Today I saw an article in the MS Learn Docs about Linux support in Azure/Entra that point to working versions of Linux VM on the servers with Commercial Companies making their kernels and OS fabric unique to their flavor. I guess if they make it theirs they can charge a fee for support in the MS World? Now I am really confused.