MX 23 - Problems installing on HP 8560w & Crucial MX500 1TB

[Charlie Brown]

... All installs were done by using the entire disk ...

What if you do it manually from the very beginning and all on HP ?

• Prepare the usb in GPT mode (click the "show advanced options" on "MX Live Usb Maker")

• Make sure Bios is set to Uefi

• GParted => "Device → Create Partition Table => GPT" ...

• Prepare partitions, one fat32 (then right-click on it and put the flag esp (and boot while you're at it which's actually needed by Windows, not Linux) )

... Then go on with the default one, custom install ...

In the meantime these are really valuable feedback to devs, thanks to you.


(Sometimes there are things to correct with the auto-installer part of the MX Installer)

[cancunia]

... All installs were done by using the entire disk ...

What if you do it manually from the very beginning and all on HP ?

• Prepare the usb in GPT mode (click the "show advanced options" on "MX Live Usb Maker")

• Make sure Bios is set to Uefi

• GParted => "Device → Create Partition Table => GPT" ...

• Prepare partitions, one fat32 (then right-click on it and put the flag esp (and boot while you're at it which's actually needed by Windows, not Linux) )

... Then go on with the default one, custom install ...

In the meantime these are really valuable feedback to devs, thanks to you.


(Sometimes there are things to correct with the auto-installer part of the MX Installer)

I did try something similar, with an install in UEFI mode after first deleting the SSD partitions, then creating a new GPT partition table using Gparted. I then ran the installer and used that to create / & /home. The installer created the correct partitions but did not add a boot flag on the EFI partition, adding the boot flag did not help.
I'm currently running Mint 21.2 Xfce in BIOS mode. It installed & booted fine but did not create the partitions for root & home quite as I expected so will re-install and will have to run that for a while now as I need the SSD for daily use. I much prefer MX so will keep a lookout on this thread.
It is curious as to why the AHS version I installed earlier today worked while the 'standard' version did not, also odd that AHS installed in BIOS mode while the laptop was set for UEFI.

[cancunia]

I found this tutorial on a successful Ubuntu install on that laptop model. It might give you some insight on how to proceed:
https://beradrian.wordpress.com/2012/06 ... -on-8560w/

I have Linux Mint running at the moment, no issues on the install & booting.

[j2mcgreg]

This should shed some light on the problem you are facing. From the Arch Linux site:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/HP_EliteBook_840_G1

Note:
-- by all accounts, this is a bios from hell
-- you might need to set up an administrator's password in order to gain access to the needed controls
-- you are going to have to examine the bios for a control that lets you enter the dedicated path to the esp partition
-- your bios dates from 2016 even though the machine itself dates from 2012. This indicates that the HP firmware upgrade has already been applied.

Edited to add that Mint has the ability to make needed changes to the bios. MX does not.

[cancunia]

This should shed some light on the problem you are facing. From the Arch Linux site:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/HP_EliteBook_840_G1

Note:
-- by all accounts, this is a bios from hell
-- you might need to set up an administrator's password in order to gain access to the needed controls
-- you are going to have to examine the bios for a control that lets you enter the dedicated path to the esp partition
-- your bios dates from 2016 even though the machine itself dates from 2012. This indicates that the HP firmware upgrade has already been applied.

Edited to add that Mint has the ability to make needed changes to the bios. MX does not.

The thing is that I've not had a problem before when installing MX on the HP 8560w. As noted above, I installed version 19 in BIOS mode and it worked without an issue on the Crucial SSD, I did not try version 22 of MX so can't be certain if version 22 will work but version 23 did not work in BIOS or UEFI.
UEFI boot mode on the 8560w is for 'development' purposes according to a note in the setup so not really what I wanted anyway for daily use anyway. I have Mint running in BIOS mode for that reason, but would prefer to return to MX at some point.

[Charlie Brown]

Though the installation goes on and completes successfully, it would be interesting to see the minstall.log right after it's complete: how and at what point it changes from Uefi to Bios ... ( /var/log/... also the QSI can be used for that)