Re: MX-23 Rpi Respin -- Beta testing

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#1 Post by **Jerry3904** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 7:24 am

Something I noticed last night:

1) screen blanking is disabled by default in RPi OS and thus here--do we want to leave it there for MX-RPi?

2) If I understand correctly, it can't be enabled with Xfce's Power settings, as one would rightly expect, but only with raspi-config (link on default desktop, also in menu)

3) once blanking has been enabled the blanking occurs at 600 secs. On my system, however, the Display dialog box then pops up a few seconds later and the blanking is broken for another 600 secs. I suspect that is just due to my very cheap monitor but would like to know if others see the same behavior.

#2 Post by **chrispop99** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:02 am

1) As we are including raspi-config, I think we should leave it disabled.

2)

3) Working here without the Display dialogue appearing.

As an aside, on my test bench I have an EIZO monitor that connects to several machines, and a fly-lead, via an HDMI switcher. I used to get that Display dialogue pop-up all the time, and blamed the HDMI switcher, but replacing it didn't fix the problem. I then tried a different cable from the monitor to the switcher, and it fixed the problem. I would guess that not all HDMI cables carry all of the lines needed. I would suggest you try a good quality cable to see if that fixes it for you.

Chris

#3 Post by **Jerry3904** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 12:01 pm

I'll check the cable, thanks.

#4 Post by **Jerry3904** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 5:22 pm

Just upgraded, and the new Firefox (120...) replaced Firefox-esr. That happens to be fine with me, since I was about to remove it b/c it's so damned slow, but I doubt it's what we want.

#5 Post by **dolphin_oracle** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:04 pm

firefox-esr is not installed by default. been using firefox for a while now.

#6 Post by **Jerry3904** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:17 pm

Huh. Didn't know that. False alarm, then.

#7 Post by **chrispop99** » Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:13 pm

I've tested browser startup times on a Pi 5 (That I wasn't going to buy as I couldn't justify it...)

In each case, I opened the browser, set the home page to Google, then closed the browser. I timed from clicking the icon until the Google page was fully rendered; there will be minor variations due to connection speed.

Using the latest release of the official OS. Firefox took 6.5 secs to start, and Chromium 3 secs.

With MX, Firefox took 7 secs, Chromium 2 secs. Turning hardware acceleration off in Firefox reduced startup time by 1 sec.

For comparison, with a Pi 4 and MX as OS, Firefox takes 14 secs, and Chromium 5 secs.

The time for Firefox on a Pi 4 is pretty poor; it would frustrate me, and probably attract criticism from others. Much as I dislike it, perhaps we should consider Chromium as default?

Chris

#8 Post by **Jerry3904** » Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:21 pm

I would be in favor of that, but I think @dolphin_oracle has some reservations.

#9 Post by **dolphin_oracle** » Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:32 pm

because of the browser link on the panel, I would need to create and maintain a separate Xfce desktop defaults package, set to conflict with the existing destkop-defaults-xfce-mx-desktop package. there are two files that would need to be different to accommodate a change in default browser.

I would also need instructed on how to add our links to a default chromium setup, keeping in mind there is no default browser profiles included, and there won't be.

anyway, if folks want to change, we can make it happen.

#10 Post by **Senpai** » Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:01 pm

Hi:
In the usual MX installation I usually change the installation language to Spanish, but in the raspi it doesn't let me do the installation in English, if I try to add a new language I get this error:

fallo-idioma-mxpi.jpg

Best regards