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How to do an optimal cleaning of the system?

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Hello,

My system always grows and grows over time, because of the amount of things I install and uninstall -- I already have 42% space taken up on MX-23, recently installed, and I don't know how to really clean it up. No, no videos or music are installed.

Neither mx-cleanup, nor bleachbit with all its options enabled, not even deleting all configuration files in thunar as #, nothing works for me:

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root@kaos:~# locate crossover
/etc/crossover.conf
/home/keos/.local/share/applications/menu-xdg/X-Debian-CrossOver-crossover.desktop
/home/keos/.local/share/desktop-directories/menu-xdg/debian-crossover.directory
/home/keos/Downloads/crossover_23.0.0-1.deb
/root/crossover.deb
/root/crossover.deb.1
/usr/share/applications/cxassoc-cxoffice-0:application_x-crossover-cxarchive::restore.desktop
/usr/share/applications/cxassoc-cxoffice-0:application_x-crossover-exe::install.desktop
/usr/share/applications/cxassoc-cxoffice-0:application_x-crossover-exe::run.desktop
/usr/share/applications/cxassoc-cxoffice-0:application_x-crossover-lnk::run.desktop
/usr/share/applications/cxassoc-cxoffice-0:application_x-crossover-msi::install.desktop
/usr/share/applications/cxassoc-cxoffice-1:application_x-crossover-c4p::install.desktop
/usr/share/applications/cxassoc-cxoffice-1:application_x-crossover-tie::install.desktop
/usr/share/doc/crossover
/usr/share/doc-base/crossover
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/16x16/apps/crossover.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/16x16/apps/cxmenu-cxoffice-0-crossover.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/16x16/apps/deepin-crossover.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/22x22/apps/crossover.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/22x22/apps/cxmenu-cxoffice-0-crossover.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/22x22/apps/deepin-crossover.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/24x24/apps/crossover.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/24x24/apps/cxmenu-cxoffice-0-crossover.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/24x24/apps/deepin-crossover.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/32x32/apps/crossover.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/32x32/apps/cxmenu-cxoffice-0-crossover.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/32x32/apps/deepin-crossover.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/48x48/apps/crossover.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/48x48/apps/cxmenu-cxoffice-0-crossover.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/48x48/apps/deepin-crossover.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/64x64/apps/crossover.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/64x64/apps/cxmenu-cxoffice-0-crossover.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/64x64/apps/deepin-crossover.svg
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/128x128/apps/cxmenu-cxoffice-0-crossover.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/cxmenu-cxoffice-0-crossover.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/256x256/apps/cxmenu-cxoffice-0-crossover.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/cxmenu-cxoffice-0-crossover.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/cxmenu-cxoffice-0-crossover.png
/usr/share/lintian/overrides/crossover
/usr/share/mime/application/x-crossover-c4p.xml
/usr/share/mime/application/x-crossover-cxarchive.xml
/usr/share/mime/application/x-crossover-exe.xml
/usr/share/mime/application/x-crossover-lnk.xml
/usr/share/mime/application/x-crossover-msi.xml
/usr/share/mime/application/x-crossover-tie.xml
/var/lib/dpkg/info/crossover.list
/var/lib/dpkg/info/crossover.md5sums
/var/lib/dpkg/info/crossover.postinst
/var/lib/dpkg/info/crossover.postrm
/var/lib/dpkg/info/crossover.preinst
/var/lib/dpkg/info/crossover.prerm
/var/lib/menu-xdg/applications/menu-xdg/X-Debian-CrossOver-crossover.desktop
/var/lib/menu-xdg/desktop-directories/menu-xdg/debian-crossover.directory
root@kaos:~# locate playonlinux
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/16x16/apps/org.phoenicis.playonlinux.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/16x16/apps/playonlinux.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/16x16/apps/playonlinux4.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/22x22/apps/org.phoenicis.playonlinux.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/22x22/apps/playonlinux.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/22x22/apps/playonlinux4.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/24x24/apps/org.phoenicis.playonlinux.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/24x24/apps/playonlinux.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/24x24/apps/playonlinux4.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/32x32/apps/org.phoenicis.playonlinux.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/32x32/apps/playonlinux.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/32x32/apps/playonlinux4.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/48x48/apps/org.phoenicis.playonlinux.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/48x48/apps/playonlinux.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/48x48/apps/playonlinux4.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/64x64/apps/org.phoenicis.playonlinux.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/64x64/apps/playonlinux.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/64x64/apps/playonlinux4.svg
/usr/share/mx-packageinstaller-pkglist/playonlinux.pm
root@kaos:~# locate bottle
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/16x16/apps/bottles_notepad.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/16x16/apps/bottles_wine-uninstaller.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/16x16/apps/bottles_wine-winecfg.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/16x16/apps/bottles_wine.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/16x16/apps/bottles_winetricks.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/16x16/apps/com.github.mirkobrombin.bottles.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/16x16/apps/com.usebottles.bottles.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/22x22/apps/bottles_notepad.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/22x22/apps/bottles_wine-uninstaller.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/22x22/apps/bottles_wine-winecfg.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/22x22/apps/bottles_wine.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/22x22/apps/bottles_winetricks.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/22x22/apps/com.github.mirkobrombin.bottles.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/22x22/apps/com.usebottles.bottles.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/24x24/apps/bottles_notepad.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/24x24/apps/bottles_wine-uninstaller.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/24x24/apps/bottles_wine-winecfg.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/24x24/apps/bottles_wine.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/24x24/apps/bottles_winetricks.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/24x24/apps/com.github.mirkobrombin.bottles.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/24x24/apps/com.usebottles.bottles.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/32x32/apps/bottles_notepad.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/32x32/apps/bottles_wine-uninstaller.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/32x32/apps/bottles_wine-winecfg.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/32x32/apps/bottles_wine.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/32x32/apps/bottles_winetricks.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/32x32/apps/com.github.mirkobrombin.bottles.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/32x32/apps/com.usebottles.bottles.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/48x48/apps/bottles_notepad.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/48x48/apps/bottles_wine-uninstaller.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/48x48/apps/bottles_wine-winecfg.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/48x48/apps/bottles_wine.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/48x48/apps/bottles_winetricks.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/48x48/apps/com.github.mirkobrombin.bottles.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/48x48/apps/com.usebottles.bottles.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/64x64/apps/bottles_notepad.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/64x64/apps/bottles_wine-uninstaller.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/64x64/apps/bottles_wine-winecfg.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/64x64/apps/bottles_wine.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/64x64/apps/bottles_winetricks.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/64x64/apps/com.github.mirkobrombin.bottles.svg
/usr/share/icons/Papirus/64x64/apps/com.usebottles.bottles.svg
/usr/share/projectM/presets/presets_bltc201/fiShbRaiN - lost in the bottle.milk
/usr/share/projectM/presets/presets_tryptonaut/fiShbRaiN - lost in the bottle.milk
root@kaos:~#
This was just today...

Is there a way to delete, if not all, at least a considerable portion of all that, other than having to go one by one... if I could at least know which are the ones that take up the most space...


Thanks for any advice.

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System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-11-amd64 [6.1.38-4] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-11-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.36 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.18.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23_x64 Libretto June 15  2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Inspiron 3583 v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Chassis:
    type: 10 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Dell model: 0WHCP7 v: A00 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Dell v: 1.5.1
    date: 05/30/2019
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 39.9 Wh (100.0%) condition: 39.9/42.0 Wh (95.0%) volts: 12.6 min: 11.4
    model: SMP DELL VM73283 type: Li-poly serial: <filter> status: full
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core i5-8265U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Comet/Whiskey Lake note: check
    gen: core 8 level: v3 note: check built: 2018 process: Intel 14nm family: 6 model-id: 0x8E (142)
    stepping: 0xC (12) microcode: 0xF6
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 4 tpc: 2 threads: 8 smt: enabled cache: L1: 256 KiB
    desc: d-4x32 KiB; i-4x32 KiB L2: 1024 KiB desc: 4x256 KiB L3: 6 MiB desc: 1x6 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 800 min/max: 400/3900 scaling: driver: intel_pstate governor: powersave
    cores: 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 4: 800 5: 800 6: 800 7: 800 8: 800 bogomips: 28800
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Vulnerable: No microcode
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
  Type: retbleed mitigation: Enhanced IBRS
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced IBRS, IBPB: conditional, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: SW
    sequence
  Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel WhiskeyLake-U GT2 [UHD Graphics 620] vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel
    arch: Gen-9.5 process: Intel 14nm built: 2016-20 ports: active: eDP-1 empty: HDMI-A-1
    bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:3ea0 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: Realtek Integrated_Webcam_HD type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-6:3
    chip-ID: 0bda:5520 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter>
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.18.0 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915 display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.21x7.99") s-diag: 414mm (16.31")
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 model: AU Optronics 0x10ec built: 2017 res: 1366x768 hz: 60 dpi: 101
    gamma: 1.2 size: 344x193mm (13.54x7.6") diag: 394mm (15.5") ratio: 16:9 modes: 1366x768
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics 620 (WHL GT2)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Cannon Point-LP High Definition Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel
    v: kernel alternate: snd_soc_skl,snd_sof_pci_intel_cnl bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:9dc8
    class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-11-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 0.3.65 status: off with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: off 2: wireplumber
    status: off tools: pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
  Server-2: PulseAudio v: 16.1 status: active tools: pacat,pactl,pavucontrol
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet vendor: Dell driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie:
    gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: 3000 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8136 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 16.39 GiB (6.9%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Western Digital model: PC SN520 NVMe WDC 256GB
    size: 238.47 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 15.8 Gb/s lanes: 2 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 20200012 temp: 44.9 C scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 44.69 GiB size: 43.68 GiB (97.76%) used: 16.37 GiB (37.5%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p4 maj-min: 259:4
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 1.43 GiB size: 1.43 GiB (99.80%) used: 18.6 MiB (1.3%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 3 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swapfile
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 53.0 C pch: 48.0 C mobo: 38.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2584 libs: 1453 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security non-free contrib main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/librewolf.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/MX-Linux/workspace/mx/repo/ bookworm non-free main
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/spotify.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/yandex-browser.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.yandex.ru/yandex-browser/deb/ stable main
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/yandex-stable.list
Info:
  Processes: 247 Uptime: 1m wakeups: 2 Memory: 7.63 GiB used: 1.38 GiB (18.0%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  clang: 14.0.6 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI
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Re: How to do an optimal cleaning of the system?

#2 Post by Charlie Brown »

keos wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 7:10 pm... if I could at least know which are the ones that take up the most space...
"Disk Usage Analyzer" from menu.
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QSI please.
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#4 Post by CharlesV »

The first thing ( imo ) is to figure out where your space is being taken up. This can range from old kernels, unmanaged timeshift snapshots, all the way to files that were copied incorrectly / in unknown locations.

If you install QDirStat (MXPI) and then run it on each drive, you will see where / what on each drive is taking up space. Then you can figure out what to do.

And, personally, I have found that stacer (also in mxpi ) is a great utility to clear both show and clear our caches, temp files etc . BUT ... use QDirStat first and see where your space is being eaten up, it may not be where you think!
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Re: How to do an optimal cleaning of the system?

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I just don't understand in detail what is output from 'usr'... many libraries, incomprehensible for me...
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Re: How to do an optimal cleaning of the system?

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keos wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 7:41 pm I just don't understand in detail what is output from 'usr'... many libraries, incomprehensible for me...

What does it show for your home folder?
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Re: How to do an optimal cleaning of the system?

#7 Post by timkb4cq »

Perhaps a more visual tool would help.
I find Konqueror's File Size View helpful in locating the larger folders & files.
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keos wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 7:41 pm I just don't understand in detail what is output from 'usr'... many libraries, incomprehensible for me...
As a general rule, you should not be removing anything in that /usr/lib area unless you really KNOW what it is.

You can run the following to remove unused lib's that are hanging around:
sudo apt autoremove


but you should focus on your home folder and below that normally. ( timeshift and other backup's might also use some space. But an almost clean MX 23 install is approx 6gb /usr and lower folders.
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Re: How to do an optimal cleaning of the system?

#9 Post by uncle mark »

You've got a 256G drive, but it looks like you're only using 45G for your MX install, without a separate /home partition. Your MX setup is using 16G total. Doesn't seem too out of line to me.

Drives:
Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 16.39 GiB (6.9%)
SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Western Digital model: PC SN520 NVMe WDC 256GB
size: 238.47 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 15.8 Gb/s lanes: 2 type: SSD
serial: <filter> rev: 20200012 temp: 44.9 C scheme: GPT
Partition:
ID-1: / raw-size: 44.69 GiB size: 43.68 GiB (97.76%) used: 16.37 GiB (37.5%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p4 maj-min: 259:4
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Re: How to do an optimal cleaning of the system?

#10 Post by m_pav »

keos wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 7:41 pm I just don't understand in detail what is output from 'usr'... many libraries, incomprehensible for me...
Repeat the same process that took you to the screenshot you provided, then click the arrow at the top left of the apps toolbar as many times as necessary until you see This Computer. Click your / partition and the graph will be redrawn to include your /home folder. You can investigate what you see therein, if you need to.

For homedirs that unexpectedly get pout of hand, it's usually a fault with Wine or something else that causes the hidden ~/.xsession-errors file to receive multiple additional entries per hour, causing it to grow quickly and sometimes create multiple new versions of itself.
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