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When you run into problems installing MX Linux XFCE
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Installing is different from copying. Just copying the files over will not let you boot into the hard drive and use MX Linux. You cannot use an internal hard drive like a live usb.

Use the live iso and choose install and follow the steps and then you will have MX Linux on the hard drive.

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@almahdi Please do not remove post content like that again. People are taking time and effort to respond to you, it is really bad form.
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The original post for this thread was:
almahdi wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:00 am How to put MX linux Iso installer to a HDD partition in order to run, boot from there instead of Usb ?
It's extracted to e.g. a partition 9 and being invoked readily in main grub.cfg e.g.:menuentry 'MX LINUX installer' { set root='hd0,9' configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg}but error missing some executable, sort of "cannot find file ... "Please help tell how to do correctly.
Booting a machine directly to an ISO seems like an interesting idea. For a minute I wondered if it would be possible to install Ventoy to a hard disk, but it turns out there are several tutorials for booting a Linux live session directly from an ISO with GRUB. It looks as though the secret is to include a loopback command in the grub config:

set isofile="/path/to/file.iso"
loopback loop (hd0,msdos1)$isofile

but the exact details of invoking the squashed kernel and initramfs are a little more complicated than that and not immediately relevant to installing MX Linux.

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DukeComposed wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:03 am The original post for this thread was:
almahdi wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:00 am How to put MX linux Iso installer to a HDD partition in order to run, boot from there instead of Usb ?
It's extracted to e.g. a partition 9 and being invoked readily in main grub.cfg e.g.:menuentry 'MX LINUX installer' { set root='hd0,9' configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg}but error missing some executable, sort of "cannot find file ... "Please help tell how to do correctly.
Yeah I saw it yesterday and thought about replying but didn't have the time. OP has a good few posts so hopefully they will check their messages and get the help they need.
DukeComposed wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:03 am Booting a machine directly to an ISO seems like an interesting idea. For a minute I wondered if it would be possible to install Ventoy to a hard disk, but it turns out there are several tutorials for booting a Linux live session directly from an ISO with GRUB. It looks as though the secret is to include a loopback command in the grub config:

set isofile="/path/to/file.iso"
loopback loop (hd0,msdos1)$isofile

but the exact details of invoking the squashed kernel and initramfs are a little more complicated than that and not immediately relevant to installing MX Linux.
Any advantages to this? Don't really see the point myself unless it's for privacy

EDIT: forgot about porteus. Interesting little distro. 300Mb. Played about with a couple of years ago. It was interesting but nothing for serious use IMHO. Needed separate modules compiling. I was trying to set up a machine as a kiosk that would only run firefox. I think I got it working but had to use a lot of 'hacks' so decided to put xubuntu on it first, then changed to MX19.4

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BitterTruth wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:30 am Any advantages to this? Don't really see the point myself unless it's for privacy

EDIT: forgot about porteus. Interesting little distro. 300Mb. Played about with a couple of years ago. It was interesting but nothing for serious use IMHO. Needed separate modules compiling. I was trying to set up a machine as a kiosk that would only run firefox. I think I got it working but had to use a lot of 'hacks' so decided to put xubuntu on it first, then changed to MX19.4
It's certainly not a common use case. The MX 23 live image has a lot of useful tools on it, so I can imagine if a person wants a figuratively unbreakable machine to give a relative who wants LibreOffice and Firefox, uses cloud storage, never has to patch it, and is OK with typing out every credential every single time he or she reboots. Malware can't install itself on a compressed fs kept in an ISO, especially if that ISO gets regularly checksummed, verified, or checked with yabitrot. I figure one could even mount the hard disk read-only if you really want to be sure you're going to boot from a safe image every time.

It's also an interesting way to have a universal test box in a computer lab. In the same way you might have a build that needs user testing in different OSes on the same hardware, one could preload those OSes as ISOs and boot the machine into whichever OS needs to be tested that day. "ISO on a disk" has its advantages, but I see far too many disadvantages to make it worthwhile for most people in most scenarios.

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That's why I was thinking that maybe the OP had asked an XY problem question i.e. How do I solve my attempted solution, rather than the actual problem of installing the iso.

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#8 Post by almahdi »

I'm so sorry, made a mistake, also admit this actually a bit just beyond being real/practical

As Duke said it'd be solved simply by treating it as loop
DukeComposed wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:03 am Booting a machine directly to an ISO seems like an interesting idea. For a minute I wondered if it would be possible to install Ventoy to a hard disk, but it turns out there are several tutorials for booting a Linux live session directly from an ISO with GRUB. It looks as though the secret is to include a loopback command in the grub config:

set isofile="/path/to/file.iso"
loopback loop (hd0,msdos1)$isofile

but the exact details of invoking the squashed kernel and initramfs are a little more complicated than that and not immediately relevant to installing MX Linux.

No good on extract way

But actual problem is this ver. and later one 23 both failed in hash match check
Further both the installer in its run progress failed to output HDD partitions layout, it shows blank BG...
..so let it be followed by a new post

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#9 Post by BitterTruth »

No problem. A new post would be better.

I've learnt some things on this one though.

Many thanks to both of you

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