MX-23 beta 2 feedback thread
Re: MX-23 beta 2 feedback thread
What happens if you click on the bottom button "Clear Known Items"?
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Re: MX-23 beta 2 feedback thread
As I did't recieve any answer, even "I don't know (yet)", etc..
So I decided to investigate for myself. Sacrificed five hours until now. (I am not so effective as those, who know better where to search)
Here is, what I have found:
in Linux Mint the result is
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mint@mint-VirtualBox:~$ sudo btrfs subvolume get-default /
ID 5 (FS_TREE)
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mx@mx:~
$ sudo btrfs subvolume get-default /
ID 256 gen 82 top level 5 path @
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$ sudo btrfs subvolume set-default 5 /
mx@mx:~
$ sudo btrfs subvolume get-default /
ID 5 (FS_TREE)
in Linux Mint, after creating some manual and automatic snapshots
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mint@mint-VirtualBox:~$ sudo btrfs subvolume list /
[sudo] password for mint:
ID 256 gen 129 top level 5 path @
ID 257 gen 130 top level 5 path @home
ID 258 gen 129 top level 5 path timeshift-btrfs/snapshots/2023-07-01_19-37-37/@
ID 259 gen 75 top level 5 path timeshift-btrfs/snapshots/2023-07-01_19-53-27/@
ID 260 gen 127 top level 5 path timeshift-btrfs/snapshots/2023-07-01_22-00-02/@
After reading this:
https://github.com/linuxmint/timeshift/issues/90
I checked kernel parameter
rootflags=subvol=@
It is set accordingly.
Timeshift still does not allow to use BTRFS in settings.
BUT: somehow (I almost never boot with SystemD) I got an idea to boot with SystemD,
and: Timeshift allowed to use BTRFS. Creating snapshot last unusually long time (about 30 secs), but the snapshot did not appear in the list in the GUI windows of Timeshift.
by checking I get
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mx@mx:~
$ sudo btrfs subvolume list /
[sudo] password for mx:
ID 256 gen 72 top level 5 path @
ID 257 gen 72 top level 5 path @home
ID 258 gen 58 top level 256 path srv
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sudo btrfs subvolume delete -i 258 /
after few seconds by checking I get again
mx@mx:~
$ sudo btrfs subvolume list /
[sudo] password for mx:
ID 256 gen 72 top level 5 path @
ID 257 gen 72 top level 5 path @home
ID 258 gen 58 top level 256 path srv
After next boot (with SystemD of course), the SRV subvolume was still there, but issued and checked again:
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mx@mx:~
$ sudo btrfs subvolume delete -i 258 --commit-each /
Delete subvolume (commit): '//@/srv'
mx@mx:~
$ sudo btrfs subvolume list /
ID 256 gen 92 top level 5 path @
ID 257 gen 91 top level 5 path @home
Checking Timeshift settings again, were fine, created snapshot, progress window closed with the message snapshot was created.
Again no line in the table.
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mx@mx:~
$ sudo btrfs subvolume list /
ID 256 gen 103 top level 5 path @
ID 257 gen 100 top level 5 path @home
Clicking on Browse, Dolphin run as root shows four subdirectories of these four attempts,
but each one is empty.
/run/timeshift/5456/backup/timeshift-btrfs/snapshots/
Closed Timeshift GUI, run in terminal:
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mx@mx:~
$ sudo timeshift --list
Mounted '/dev/dm-0 (sda4)' at '/run/timeshift/6082/backup'
btrfs: Quotas are not enabled
Device : /dev/dm-0 (sda4)
UUID : a528b0bb-64ae-4342-a6ba-881e8c3575f2
Path : /run/timeshift/6082/backup
Mode : BTRFS
Status : No snapshots on this device
First snapshot requires: 0 B
No snapshots found
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mx@mx:~
$ cat /etc/timeshift/timeshift.json
{
"backup_device_uuid" : "a528b0bb-64ae-4342-a6ba-881e8c3575f2",
"parent_device_uuid" : "afd1330e-fdbb-4f63-a00e-62044032f7a1",
"do_first_run" : "false",
"btrfs_mode" : "true",
"include_btrfs_home_for_backup" : "false",
"include_btrfs_home_for_restore" : "false",
"stop_cron_emails" : "true",
"schedule_monthly" : "false",
"schedule_weekly" : "false",
"schedule_daily" : "true",
"schedule_hourly" : "false",
"schedule_boot" : "false",
"count_monthly" : "2",
"count_weekly" : "3",
"count_daily" : "5",
"count_hourly" : "6",
"count_boot" : "5",
"date_format" : "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S",
"exclude" : [],
"exclude-apps" : []
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mx@mx:~
$ sudo timeshift --create --comments "from_commandline"
Using system disk as snapshot device for creating snapshots in BTRFS mode
Mounted '/dev/dm-0 (sda4)' at '/run/timeshift/6136/backup'
btrfs: Quotas are not enabled
Creating new backup...(BTRFS)
Saving to device: /dev/dm-0, mounted at path: /run/timeshift/6136/backup
Created directory: /run/timeshift/6136/backup/timeshift-btrfs/snapshots/2023-07-01_17-08-24
E: ERROR: cannot snapshot '/run/timeshift/6136/backup/@': Text file busy
E: btrfs returned an error: 256
E: Failed to create subvolume snapshot: @
Failed to create snapshot
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Removing snapshots (incomplete):
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Removing snapshot: 2023-07-01_16-15-31
Deleted directory: /run/timeshift/6136/backup/timeshift-btrfs/snapshots/2023-07-01_16-15-31
Removed snapshot: 2023-07-01_16-15-31
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Removing snapshot: 2023-07-01_16-26-31
Deleted directory: /run/timeshift/6136/backup/timeshift-btrfs/snapshots/2023-07-01_16-26-31
Removed snapshot: 2023-07-01_16-26-31
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Removing snapshot: 2023-07-01_16-28-03
Deleted directory: /run/timeshift/6136/backup/timeshift-btrfs/snapshots/2023-07-01_16-28-03
Removed snapshot: 2023-07-01_16-28-03
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Removing snapshot: 2023-07-01_16-58-29
Deleted directory: /run/timeshift/6136/backup/timeshift-btrfs/snapshots/2023-07-01_16-58-29
Removed snapshot: 2023-07-01_16-58-29
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Removing snapshot: 2023-07-01_17-08-24
Deleted directory: /run/timeshift/6136/backup/timeshift-btrfs/snapshots/2023-07-01_17-08-24
Removed snapshot: 2023-07-01_17-08-24
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mx@mx:~
$ sudo timeshift --create --comments "from_commandline"
Using system disk as snapshot device for creating snapshots in BTRFS mode
Mounted '/dev/dm-0 (sda4)' at '/run/timeshift/6220/backup'
btrfs: Quotas are not enabled
Creating new backup...(BTRFS)
Saving to device: /dev/dm-0, mounted at path: /run/timeshift/6220/backup
Created directory: /run/timeshift/6220/backup/timeshift-btrfs/snapshots/2023-07-01_17-10-22
E: ERROR: cannot snapshot '/run/timeshift/6220/backup/@': Text file busy
E: btrfs returned an error: 256
E: Failed to create subvolume snapshot: @
Failed to create snapshot
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Removing snapshots (incomplete):
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Removing snapshot: 2023-07-01_17-10-22
Deleted directory: /run/timeshift/6220/backup/timeshift-btrfs/snapshots/2023-07-01_17-10-22
Removed snapshot: 2023-07-01_17-10-22
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I hope my discoveries will save the time for the developers.
Attaching logs, too.
Interesting info here (maybe not related to timeshift, but related to BTRFS and switching subvolumes for root):
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=210582
Maybe a time to check different solution.
https://github.com/digint/btrbk
or
https://gitlab.com/btrfs-assistant/btrfs-assistant
Does somebody have experiences with BTRFS Assistant?
Does it work without SystemD?
Enough of Timeshift (without "F" ???

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Re: MX-23 beta 2 feedback thread
@andy we have not given up on timeshift, but the particular problem is not likely to be fixed before release of mx23. timeshift is very finicky about how its set up, and our btrfs setup does not match linux mint's.
one other thing, a btrfs snapshot will apparently fail if a swapfile is present in the subvolume.
one other thing, a btrfs snapshot will apparently fail if a swapfile is present in the subvolume.
http://www.youtube.com/runwiththedolphin
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FYI: mx "test" repo is not the same thing as debian testing repo.
lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 4 - MX-23
FYI: mx "test" repo is not the same thing as debian testing repo.
Re: MX-23 beta 2 feedback thread
Maybe you missed the answer given viewtopic.php?p=731447#p731447andy wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 5:40 pmAs I did't recieve any answer, even "I don't know (yet)", etc..
And yes, we know what this issue is, the fix we have for non-luks+btrfs unfortunately won't work with btrfs+luks.
I'v applied already the MX-patch to latest Linux Mint provided version, which does fix the subvol issue,
but for some reason not with the combo luks+btrfs.
So suggest, stay patient until further findings to fix have been made.
Thanks
Re: MX-23 beta 2 feedback thread
Hi Jerry-Jerry3904 wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 3:50 pm What happens if you click on the bottom button "Clear Known Items"?
It removes all the W-fi entries and un-checks what was previously checked as "Hidden".
Then it immediately starts accumulating again.
That was just a couple of days worth in the image I had attached.
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Re: MX-23 beta 2 feedback thread
Stevo wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:41 pmI don't know if anyone has reported VLC losing hardware accelerated decoding and encoding in Bookworm, but that seems to be unavoidable with the Debian packages.
5.2.3. Limited hardware-accelerated video encoding/decoding support in VLC
The VLC video player supports hardware-accelerated video decoding and encoding via VA-API and VDPAU. However, VLC's support for VA-API is tightly related to the version of FFmpeg. Because FFmpeg was upgraded to the 5.x branch, VLC's VA-API support has been disabled. Users of GPUs with native VA-API support (e.g., Intel and AMD GPUs) may experience high CPU usage during video playback and encoding.
Users of GPUs offering native VDPAU support (e.g., NVIDIA with non-free drivers) are not affected by this issue.
Support for VA-API and VDPAU can be checked with vainfo and vdpauinfo (each provided in a Debian package of the same name).
@Stevo haven't seen you post here since? Has anyone tested that downgrade I quoted here to see if that fixes things?
viewtopic.php?p=729379#p729379
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Re: MX-23 beta 2 feedback thread
i'm trying mx23 beta
I noticed that the thumbnails of the image file icons (jpg, png etc) do not appear.
on debian stable the problem is not there
on mx23 beta I saw that the libgdk-pixbuf-2.0-dev and libgdk-pixbuf2.0-bin packages are missing
moreover, thumbnails do not appear on device folders such as smartphones
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I noticed that the thumbnails of the image file icons (jpg, png etc) do not appear.
on debian stable the problem is not there
on mx23 beta I saw that the libgdk-pixbuf-2.0-dev and libgdk-pixbuf2.0-bin packages are missing
moreover, thumbnails do not appear on device folders such as smartphones
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Re: MX-23 beta 2 feedback thread
We need your QSI.sughero wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:31 am i'm trying mx23 beta
I noticed that the thumbnails of the image file icons (jpg, png etc) do not appear.
on debian stable the problem is not there
on mx23 beta I saw that the libgdk-pixbuf-2.0-dev and libgdk-pixbuf2.0-bin packages are missing
moreover, thumbnails do not appear on device folders such as smartphones
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HP 15; ryzen 3 5300U APU; 500 Gb SSD; 8GB ram
HP 17; ryzen 3 3200; 500 GB SSD; 12 GB ram
Idea Center 3; 12 gen i5; 256 GB ssd;
In Linux, newer isn't always better. The best solution is the one that works.
HP 17; ryzen 3 3200; 500 GB SSD; 12 GB ram
Idea Center 3; 12 gen i5; 256 GB ssd;
In Linux, newer isn't always better. The best solution is the one that works.
Re: MX-23 beta 2 feedback thread
sorry
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System:
Kernel: 6.1.0-9-amd64 [6.1.27-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-9-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
Desktop: MATE v: 1.26.0 info: mate-panel wm: marco v: 1.26.1 vt: 7 dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0
Distro: MX-23_fluxbox_beta2_x64 Libretto June 15 2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
Type: Desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Compaq 8100 Elite CMT PC v: N/A
serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 6 serial: <superuser required>
Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 304Bh serial: <superuser required> BIOS: Hewlett-Packard
v: 786H1 v01.13 date: 07/14/2011
CPU:
Info: model: Intel Core i5 650 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Westmere gen: core 1 level: v2
built: 2010-11 process: Intel 32nm family: 6 model-id: 0x25 (37) stepping: 2 microcode: 0x11
Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 tpc: 2 threads: 4 smt: enabled cache: L1: 128 KiB
desc: d-2x32 KiB; i-2x32 KiB L2: 512 KiB desc: 2x256 KiB L3: 4 MiB desc: 1x4 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 1331 high: 1463 min/max: 1199/3333 boost: enabled scaling:
driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 1463 2: 1199 3: 1463 4: 1199 bogomips: 25538
Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
Vulnerabilities: <filter>
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: i915 v: kernel
arch: Gen-5.75 process: Intel 45nm built: 2010 ports: active: VGA-1 empty: DP-1,HDMI-A-1
bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0042 class-ID: 0300
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: marco v: 1.26.1 driver: X: loaded: intel
dri: crocus gpu: i915 display-ID: :0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1360x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 359x203mm (14.13x7.99") s-diag: 412mm (16.24")
Monitor-1: VGA-1 mapped: VGA1 res: 1360x768 hz: 60 size: N/A modes: max: 1024x768 min: 640x480
API: OpenGL v: 2.1 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics (ILK) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard 5
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:3b56 class-ID: 0403
API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-9-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
Server-1: PipeWire v: 0.3.65 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
Device-1: Intel 82578DM Gigabit Network vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: e1000e v: kernel
port: 1100 bus-ID: 00:19.0 chip-ID: 8086:10ef class-ID: 0200
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 1.36 TiB used: 8.14 GiB (0.6%)
SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Western Digital model: WD10EZEX-08WN4A0 size: 931.51 GiB
block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter>
rev: 1A01 scheme: MBR
ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Seagate model: ST500DM002-1BD142 size: 465.76 GiB
block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter>
rev: HP74 scheme: MBR
Partition:
ID-1: / raw-size: 47.86 GiB size: 46.81 GiB (97.80%) used: 8.14 GiB (17.4%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/sdb8 maj-min: 8:24
Swap:
Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 3.04 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/sdb6
maj-min: 8:22
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 38.0 C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2040 libs: 961 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm pkgs: 0
pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list
1: deb [arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ bullseye main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
1: deb http://it.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
Info:
Processes: 196 Uptime: 1m wakeups: 1 Memory: 3.63 GiB used: 887 MiB (23.9%) Init: SysVinit
v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12 Client: shell wrapper
v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)
Re: MX-23 beta 2 feedback thread
This thread seems to have uncovered a bug in MX-23 beta 2
viewtopic.php?p=731648#p731648
viewtopic.php?p=731648#p731648
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