MX-23 beta 2 feedback thread

[pbear]

My question is: where does that Swapfile reside? I'm assuming it's NOT on a separate partition, right? Does it go in /Root/Home (automatically)?

A swapfile can go anywhere, but the default is / (root), i.e, not in any of the folders/directories. The corresponding entry in fstab is simply /swapfile (which, indeed, is the full path).

... is swap file now generally preferred way of setting up Linux system?

Swap file and swap partition both work fine. The former is more convenient on a single-install system, as it can be resized easily. The latter has the efficiency on a multi-boot system that it can be shared.

[andy]

One idea:
@dolphin_oracle,
may I ask for input box in installer on encryption page, where I can input parameters to override encryption? Like encryption algo, keysize, hash algo, etc...
It would be nice if it shows actual encryption parameters (commandline args), and initially disabled, to not allow users to mess with it. Beside it the checkbox "allow finetuning of encryption. Only for advanced users.", which will enable the inputbox, making it editable.
It would be awesome to have it like that. I am sure there will be users grateful for that. Not everybody uses AES, and/or SHA512.

we used to have that, but in looking at a lot of log files, I don't think anyone actually used it, so it was removed. Probably not high on the list to add back, but we will keep it in mind.

These who have used it, were able to help themselves often, so did not post logs so frequently like newbies

[andy]

I have repeated the installation process just with the change of filesystem to EXT4, encrypted, and Home on the root partition. All went well. I can attach the log, if needed, too. (Writing from another machine)

that would be great for comparison.

Here you are.

[i_ri]

Hello Melber
Themes with Music-names like sharp, flat, tremolo ?
Into each of 39[one recolour] Style files i put slit.border, slit.bevel values; that does take seventeen minutes. That is with one break; i am an easy boss. No more need of overlay for slit.border here.
hello dolphin_oracle
This sample mx-idesktool
Includes pushing an equivalent i.desktop Launcher into Desktop directory.


idesk
ditto
Thunar


sample

[siamhie]

MX-23 fluxbox-b2

Are we going back to apt for updates? When applying updates this morning apt showed and not nala.

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# Alternative apt/apt-get command line package manager
# use_nala = true

# Example section below will be ignored
#
[Example]
# comment out the section header line above to make it active
#
# Use of alternative classic_some- and clasic_none icons:
classic_none  = $HOME/.local/share/icons/apt-notifier-tickok_32.png
classic_some  = $HOME/.local/share/icons/apt-notifier-reload_32.png
#
# Use alternative apt/apt-get command line package manager
use_nala = true

Can I set the notifier/update window back to 80x24 in size?



QSI

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System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-9-amd64 [6.1.27-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-9-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
    amdgpu.ppfeaturemask=0xffffffff init=/lib/systemd/systemd
  Desktop: Fluxbox v: 1.3.7 info: tint2 vt: 7 dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0
    Distro: MX-23_fluxbox_beta2_x64 Libretto June 15 2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Micro-Star product: MS-7C56 v: 2.0 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Micro-Star model: B550-A PRO (MS-7C56) v: 2.0 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American
    Megatrends LLC. v: A.B0 date: 08/11/2022
Battery:
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse serial: <filter>
    charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: discharging
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 2 gen: 3 level: v3 note: check
    built: 2020-22 process: TSMC n7 (7nm) family: 0x17 (23) model-id: 0x71 (113) stepping: 0
    microcode: 0x8701021
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 8 tpc: 2 threads: 16 smt: enabled cache: L1: 512 KiB
    desc: d-8x32 KiB; i-8x32 KiB L2: 4 MiB desc: 8x512 KiB L3: 32 MiB desc: 2x16 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 2199 high: 2298 min/max: 2200/4559 boost: enabled scaling:
    driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 2200 2: 2200 3: 2200 4: 2199 5: 2200 6: 2101
    7: 2199 8: 2199 9: 2200 10: 2200 11: 2200 12: 2199 13: 2200 14: 2200 15: 2298 16: 2200
    bogomips: 124806
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities: <filter>
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Navi 22 [Radeon RX 6700/6700 XT/6750 XT / 6800M/6850M XT] vendor: Tul / PowerColor
    driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: RDNA-2 code: Navi-2x process: TSMC n7 (7nm) built: 2020-22 pcie:
    gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: DP-1 empty: DP-2,DP-3,HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 0b:00.0
    chip-ID: 1002:73df class-ID: 0300
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: Compton v: 1 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
    dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 2560x1440 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 677x381mm (26.65x15.00") s-diag: 777mm (30.58")
  Monitor-1: DP-1 mapped: DisplayPort-0 model: HP X27q serial: <filter> built: 2021
    res: 2560x1440 hz: 165 dpi: 109 gamma: 1.2 size: 597x336mm (23.5x13.23") diag: 685mm (27")
    ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 2560x1440 min: 720x400
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT (navi22 LLVM 15.0.6 DRM 3.49
    6.1.0-9-amd64) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Navi 21/23 HDMI/DP Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 4
    speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 0b:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:ab28 class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 14:00.4 chip-ID: 1022:1487 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-9-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 0.3.65 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX210/AX211/AX411 160MHz driver: iwlwifi v: kernel modules: wl pcie:
    gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 05:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:2725 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel AX210 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-2.3:4 chip-ID: 8087:0032
    class-ID: e001
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter>
  Info: acl-mtu: 1021:4 sco-mtu: 96:6 link-policy: rswitch sniff link-mode: peripheral accept
    service-classes: rendering, capturing, audio, telephony
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 8.19 TiB used: 878.4 GiB (10.5%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:3 vendor: Western Digital model: WDS500G1X0E-00AFY0
    size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 613000WD temp: 38.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Western Digital model: WDS500G3XHC-00SJG0
    size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 102000WD temp: 35.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-3: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: SanDisk model: ST8000DM004-2CX188 size: 7.28 TiB
    block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5425 serial: <filter>
    rev: 0001 scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 465.26 GiB size: 456.89 GiB (98.20%) used: 8.12 GiB (1.8%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:5
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 512 MiB size: 511 MiB (99.80%) used: 572 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:4
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 65 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/nvme1n1p1
    maj-min: 259:1
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 34.2 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 42.0 C mem: 44.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: amdgpu fan: 741
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2022 libs: 1039 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/librewolf.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] http://deb.librewolf.net bullseye main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nordvpn.list
    1: deb https://repo.nordvpn.com/deb/nordvpn/debian stable main
Info:
  Processes: 333 Uptime: 9m wakeups: 2 Memory: 31.27 GiB used: 2.31 GiB (7.4%) Init: systemd v: 252
  target: graphical (5) default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12 Client: shell wrapper
  v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

[operadude]

My question is: where does that Swapfile reside? I'm assuming it's NOT on a separate partition, right? Does it go in /Root/Home (automatically)?

A swapfile can go anywhere, but the default is / (root), i.e, not in any of the folders/directories. The corresponding entry in fstab is simply /swapfile (which, indeed, is the full path).

... is swap file now generally preferred way of setting up Linux system?

Swap file and swap partition both work fine. The former is more convenient on a single-install system, as it can be resized easily. The latter has the efficiency on a multi-boot system that it can be shared.

Thank you!
Very Helpful Info!

[entropyfoe]

OK, I continued with the set-up and tweaking from last night.

That 3-D new logo looks good during the boot, I like how the back and leading edges are subtly out of focus, giving a nice 3D look, like it is something BIG.

All is running smoothly on this hard drive install. No problems so far, solid as beta1 as I reported earlier. A wonderful beta -AGAIN !
My list of post install tweaks is complete except for the final firefox tweaks.

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1. Enable my data disk in the disk manager
2. Change my wall paper
3. Fire up synaptic and load about 30 programs (adds to maybe 160 packages with all dependencies) Such as audacity, k3b, ksnip, bleachbit, ripperx, handbrake, scid, stockfish, eboard, espeak....I really should automate this with aptik !  [b]Still need fsearch and warpinator, but these will come when the release settles.
4. Run synaptic to get all updates[/b]
5.Widen the panel, change the clock so it shows seconds
6. Install the NVidia driver with the MX Package Installer 
7. Switch conky to the modified antiX conky
8. Set up a desktop short cut to the data drive
9. Run bleachbit to clear all the post install stuff out
10. Reboot and test stability after all the up dates
11. Configure Firefox, set home page to duckduckgo, set downloads to go to a folder on the data drive, import bookmarks, add noscript
12. Disable sudo -MX Tweak > Other tab > radial button at the bottom labeled accordingly
13. In power management set so no log-in is required from suspend
14. MX Tweak-enable compton compositing, and select MX comfort theme with thick boarders
15. set swappiness =1
16. Set terminal opacity to 99

All on this:

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System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-9-amd64 [6.1.27-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-9-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.36 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.18.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23_beta2_x64 Libretto June 15  2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: PRIME X470-PRO v: Rev X.0x serial: <superuser required>
    UEFI-[Legacy]: American Megatrends v: 5204 date: 07/29/2019
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 2 gen: 3 level: v3 note: check
    built: 2020-22 process: TSMC n7 (7nm) family: 0x17 (23) model-id: 0x71 (113) stepping: 0
    microcode: 0x8701013
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 6 tpc: 2 threads: 12 smt: enabled cache: L1: 384 KiB
    desc: d-6x32 KiB; i-6x32 KiB L2: 3 MiB desc: 6x512 KiB L3: 32 MiB desc: 2x16 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 2198 high: 2200 min/max: 2200/4409 boost: enabled scaling:
    driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 2196 2: 2196 3: 2200 4: 2200 5: 2200 6: 2200
    7: 2192 8: 2196 9: 2200 10: 2200 11: 2200 12: 2196 bogomips: 91030
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities: <filter>
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GK208B [GeForce GT 710] vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: nvidia v: 470.182.03
    non-free: series: 470.xx+ status: legacy-active (EOL~2023/24) arch: Fermi 2 code: GF119/GK208
    process: TSMC 28nm built: 2010-16 pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 8 bus-ID: 09:00.0
    chip-ID: 10de:128b class-ID: 0300
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.18.0 driver: X: loaded: nvidia
    gpu: nvidia display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x286mm (20.00x11.26") s-diag: 583mm (22.95")
  Monitor-1: HDMI-0 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 96 size: 509x286mm (20.04x11.26")
    diag: 584mm (22.99") modes: N/A
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 470.182.03 renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GT 710/PCIe/SSE2
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GK208 HDMI/DP Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie:
    gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 8 bus-ID: 09:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0e0f class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie:
    gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 0b:00.4 chip-ID: 1022:1487 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-9-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 0.3.65 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Intel I211 Gigabit Network vendor: ASUSTeK driver: igb v: kernel pcie: gen: 1
    speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: e000 bus-ID: 07:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:1539 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 1.25 TiB used: 566.8 GiB (44.2%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 970 EVO Plus 250GB
    size: 232.89 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 2B2QEXM7 temp: 36.9 C scheme: MBR
  ID-2: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 860 EVO 1TB size: 931.51 GiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 1B6Q scheme: MBR
  ID-3: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 840 PRO Series size: 119.24 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 5B0Q
    scheme: MBR
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 88.35 GiB size: 86.41 GiB (97.80%) used: 8.34 GiB (9.7%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p4 maj-min: 259:4
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 1 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 32.23 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 47.0 C mobo: 32.0 C gpu: nvidia temp: 49 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 case-1: 0 case-2: 927 case-3: 859 gpu: nvidia fan: 50%
  Power: 12v: 12.16 5v: N/A 3.3v: N/A vbat: N/A
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2323 libs: 1241 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
Info:
  Processes: 297 Uptime: 22m wakeups: 1 Memory: 31.26 GiB used: 2.08 GiB (6.6%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)

[Jerry3904]

@siamhie Yes back to apt for default: we've had too many reports of lengthy hangups.

I don't know about changing the window size but it would be nice: it swamps my 1366x768 testing screen.

[peter_li]

so if I understand correctly you specified both a swap partition an a swapfile during installation, but only the swapfile was created/used?

yes, the swap partition was like the EFI were shown in the partition window so I don't touch them. The efi were used, the swap not.

[siamhie]

@siamhie Yes back to apt for default: we've had too many reports of lengthy hangups.

I don't know about changing the window size but it would be nice: it swamps my 1366x768 testing screen.

Thanks @Jerry3904. If I want to switch back to nala I can always uncomment out this line

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# Alternative apt/apt-get command line package manager
# use_nala = true  <-------this one