MX-23 beta 1 feedback thread

[Duliwi]

I do not understand what orgX or Wyland is. But if I understand right, Wyland will give better results for UltraHD monitors, when we have to scale. Right?

So my question is: Would it be possible and meaningful also to implement Wyland into "MX-23 Xfce" by default or as Tweak- Option?

[asqwerth]

I do not understand what orgX or Wyland is. But if I understand right, Wyland will give better results for UltraHD monitors, when we have to scale. Right?

So my question is: Would it be possible and meaningful also to implement Wyland into "MX-23 Xfce" by default or as Tweak- Option?

XFCE is not ready for Wayland yet. It's not just a something you install and turn on. The desktop environment must work with it.

I will note that even on the latest Gnome in Arch, there are irritations still with Wayland. I can't paste any command/text into terminal if I'm logged into Wayland. That is really annoying and I went back to Xorg on my Arch install.

[Joseph DeGarmo]

I do not understand what orgX or Wyland is. But if I understand right, Wyland will give better results for UltraHD monitors, when we have to scale. Right?

So my question is: Would it be possible and meaningful also to implement Wyland into "MX-23 Xfce" by default or as Tweak- Option?

XFCE is not ready for Wayland yet. It's not just a something you install and turn on. The desktop environment must work with it.

I will note that even on the latest Gnome in Arch, there are irritations still with Wayland. I can't paste any command/text into terminal if I'm logged into Wayland. That is really annoying and I went back to Xorg on my Arch install.

At this time, GNOME and KDE Plasma are the only desktops which support Wayland. And I am able to successfully paste copied text onto the terminal in Plasma Wayland. Other than a few minor bugs, Plasma Wayland works fairly well and is useful on my 4K display with 200% scaling. That's why I use Wayland on Plasma.

[i_ri]

Hello Melber
MX-Comfort.cfg set to zero slit border worked to unhide. suggest bevel.
in every style add.
dock
slit, hide, show
sample trial using /overlay

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slit.borderWidth: 0
slit.bevelWidth: 2

slit.borderWidth zero
slit.bevelWidth zero works it shows no borders but there is available with right-click on slit border or bevel for Slit Menu so with border at zero the bevel can be one or two gives a place for right-click get Slit Menu if you like that. The slit bevel inherits color from toolbar. In MX-Comfort the slit border color is specified, but we just set it to zero wide. (my borders get wider when running a dockapp, but it unhides. how about You? )
slit when not specified, "the slit’s appearance is controlled by the toolbar directives instead."

[Duliwi]

XFCE is not ready for Wayland yet.

I see. thank you.

[OlafD]

Report KDE Plasma:

First of all, great job, you guys are great!

• 1. Installation:
  After installation with btrfs the system did not start. It stopped in the console and asked me to boot into maintenancemode or boot normally. I am not familiar with maintenance. Normal boot did not work either. Unfortunately, I no longer have the message that was displayed to me. Is also not quite so tragic, have then installed on ext4. It took longer than usual with MX21 (subjective impression).

• 2. user-installed packages:
  I had previously installed MX23 alpha 2 and made myself the list "User Installed Packages" there. I then played this back in beta1 and got the following message:

  libdvdcss2 Simple foundation for reading DVDs - runtime libraries
  libtxc-dxtn0 S3 Texture Compression (S3TC) library
  libtxc-dxtn0:i386 S3 Texture Compression (S3TC) library
  w64codecs win64 binary codecs

• 3. root password:
  I did the installation WITHOUT root user. At some point, and I can't trace what happened before, my sudo password was no longer accepted (when I tried to open a directory as root in Dolphin). I was able to generate a password for root with "passwd root". But this suggests that the root was already created, which I did not do. Very strange. For now, I'm fine with it.

• 4. sd-card, usb-stick only readable
  If I insert a SD card or a USB stick, I can work with it normally. However, after a few minutes, these directories are read-only and I can no longer save or copy anything to them. I had to eject and remount it again and again.
  Also changing in MX-Tweaks (Enable mount...by user without root privileges) did not help.

• 5. no sound anymore
  The sound was working. At some point, however, it stopped and I can't say exactly when. The taskbar icon shows a crossed out speaker icon and clicking on it shows me no devices.
  The MX sound card selection only offers me HDMI and PCH, no internal sound card.

• 5a.
  My Apple Airpods do not connect via Bluetooth, which works in MX21 and other distros.

• 6 WLAN
  Connecting to my cell phone via hotspot works (password was saved).
  Connecting to my FritzBox and entering the router password in the known place (by clicking on the WLAN icon of the taskbar) another window (polkit) popped up and I had to enter the router password again). After a reboot, I had to enter it again (in the popup window). So it did not save it.

• 7. slow boot logo
  The new MX boot logo looks very nice! With a "normal PC" it also builds up quickly. On the Mac here, however, it takes a very long time and "stutters". I've already posted this in the KDE alpha2 feedback thread and it was mentioned there that it could be due to the high resolution of the Macbook. I would like to mention this again here. There may be other high resolution laptop screens that could have this problem. Not all users know how to change the boot logo in MX-Boot options or dare to change something there.

• 8. plasma integration firefox
  In the Taskleiszt comes the hint to install/activate the Plasma Integration for the browser. However, this addon is no longer maintained/maintained. This can be disabled after all.

FYI: This issues i've never had with MX21.

I hope i can help you with this report. In summary: You're all fantastic and i'm greatfull to have MX!

Kind regards
Olaf

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System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-9-amd64 [6.1.27-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-9-amd64
    root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
    resume=UUID=<filter> resume_offset=6334464
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.5 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 7 dm: SDDM Distro: MX-23_KDE_beta1_x64 Libretto
    May 28 2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Apple product: MacBookPro11,1 v: 1.0 serial: <superuser required> Chassis:
    type: 10 v: Mac-189A3D4F975D5FFC serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Apple model: Mac-189A3D4F975D5FFC v: MacBookPro11,1 serial: <superuser required>
    UEFI: Apple v: 431.0.0.0.0 date: 02/22/2021
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 29.4 Wh (50.6%) condition: 58.1/71.5 Wh (81.2%) volts: 12.1 min: 11.3
    model: SMP bq20z451 type: Li-ion serial: N/A status: charging cycles: 994
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core i5-4278U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Haswell gen: core 4 level: v3
    note: check built: 2013-15 process: Intel 22nm family: 6 model-id: 0x45 (69) stepping: 1
    microcode: 0x26
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 tpc: 2 threads: 4 smt: enabled cache: L1: 128 KiB
    desc: d-2x32 KiB; i-2x32 KiB L2: 512 KiB desc: 2x256 KiB L3: 3 MiB desc: 1x3 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 2400 min/max: 800/3100 scaling: driver: intel_cpufreq governor: ondemand
    cores: 1: 2400 2: 2400 3: 2400 4: 2400 bogomips: 20799
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: conditional, RSB
    filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
  Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics vendor: Apple driver: i915 v: kernel
    arch: Gen-7.5 process: Intel 22nm built: 2013 ports: active: eDP-1 empty: DP-1, DP-2, HDMI-A-1,
    HDMI-A-2 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0a2e class-ID: 0300
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
    unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: crocus gpu: i915 display-ID: :0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1200 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 507x317mm (19.96x12.48") s-diag: 598mm (23.54")
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 model: Apple Color LCD built: 2013 res: 1920x1200 hz: 60 dpi: 171 gamma: 1.2
    size: 286x179mm (11.26x7.05") diag: 337mm (13.3") ratio: 16:10 modes: 2560x1600
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: Mesa Intel Iris Graphics 5100 (HSW GT3)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Haswell-ULT HD Audio vendor: Apple driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    bus-ID: 00:03.0 chip-ID: 8086:0a0c class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: Intel 8 Series HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
    chip-ID: 8086:9c20 class-ID: 0403
  Device-3: Broadcom 720p FaceTime HD Camera driver: N/A pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1
    bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 14e4:1570 class-ID: 0480
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-9-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 0.3.65 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: off 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Broadcom BCM4360 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Apple driver: wl v: kernel
    modules: bcma pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 14e4:43a0
    class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Apple Bluetooth Host Controller type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-3.3:6
    chip-ID: 05ac:8289 class-ID: fe01
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.0
    sub-v: 4196 hci-v: 4.0 rev: 2467
  Info: acl-mtu: 1021:8 sco-mtu: 64:1 link-policy: rswitch sniff link-mode: peripheral accept
    service-classes: object transfer
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 232.08 GiB used: 126.22 GiB (54.4%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Apple model: SSD SD0128F size: 113 GiB block-size:
    physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 321 scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 type: USB vendor: Apple model: SD Card Reader size: 119.08 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 3.00 scheme: MBR
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 112.74 GiB size: 110.41 GiB (97.94%) used: 29.31 GiB (26.5%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 274 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 10.67 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swapfile
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 73.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2526 libs: 1386 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala pm: rpm pkgs: 0
    pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
Info:
  Processes: 229 Uptime: 57m wakeups: 2 Memory: 7.67 GiB used: 4.06 GiB (53.0%) Init: systemd
  v: 252 target: graphical (5) default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

[lordmmx]

I tried posting my own thread but was told to use this thread so I installed mx Linux beta 1 on Mt dual pentium 3 box and everything went well until I tried to update it I get an error that I need sse2 is this a upstream error or is there a way around it?

Please post your Quick System Info, and the error message.

Pentium 3 1ghz

4gb of sdram pc133 ecc

64gb cf card to ide adapter

Ati Radeon HD 3650 silent by asus

[asqwerth]

Please post your Quick System Info, and the error message.

Pentium 3 1ghz

4gb of sdram pc133 ecc

64gb cf card to ide adapter

Ati Radeon HD 3650 silent by asus

The Quick System Info can be found in the application menu, please run it and paste the WHOLE text here. This thread is meant to help the developers so your bug report must be helpful and detailed, with full details of your hardware.

Also, you did not post the whole text of the error message you got. Without the error message, the devs will be guessing as to what the problem actually was.

[dolphin_oracle]

I tried posting my own thread but was told to use this thread so I installed mx Linux beta 1 on Mt dual pentium 3 box and everything went well until I tried to update it I get an error that I need sse2 is this a upstream error or is there a way around it?

Please post your Quick System Info, and the error message.

Pentium 3 1ghz

4gb of sdram pc133 ecc

64gb cf card to ide adapter

Ati Radeon HD 3650 silent by asus

What requires sse2? You were doing what when you received the message?

I know web browsers all require sse2.

[Jerry3904]

Hello Melber
MX-Comfort.cfg set to zero slit border worked to unhide. suggest bevel.
in every style add.
dock
slit, hide, show
sample trial using /overlay

Code: Select all

slit.borderWidth: 0
slit.bevelWidth: 2

slit.borderWidth zero
slit.bevelWidth zero works it shows no borders but there is available with right-click on slit border or bevel for Slit Menu so with border at zero the bevel can be one or two gives a place for right-click get Slit Menu if you like that. The slit bevel inherits color from toolbar. In MX-Comfort the slit border color is specified, but we just set it to zero wide. (my borders get wider when running a dockapp, but it unhides. how about You? )
slit when not specified, "the slit’s appearance is controlled by the toolbar directives instead."

Hey, that works--great problem solving!

I didn't follow everything you wrote, sorry to say. I just added those two lines to the overlay file, refreshed and now the dock on left center works on autohide. As you mentioned, there is no visible bar.

We will want to investigate slight modifications that might improve it as we go along.