MX-23 alpha2 feedback thread

[dolphin_oracle]

ksnip is in main.

[Jerry3904]

Back to my "systray" problems, now on Installed HP Elitebook. Did some testing, and find:
1) that the BT icon is too small, smaller than anything else
2) that the Updater icon "pulse" is too big, wider than anything else
3) that the mixture of icon typer increases the perception of chaotic sizes
--I moved the battery above the actual systray > less chaos
--I introduced a separator at the upper end of the systray to signal that the others were "not the same"
The result is a significant improvement for my critical eye on this machine, and may be useful for discussion
BTW: the image below shows the Updater icon in black but I have set it repeatedly under "preferences" to white; not sure that is working correctly

[Jerry3904]

Someone reported earlier that clicking the internet connection notification to "never show this message again" -- has no effect. Just want to repeat this Xfce4 failure.

[fehlix]

BTW: the image below shows the Updater icon in balck but I have set it repeatedly under "preferences" to white; not sure that is working correctly

may disabling "transparent interior" would make it show white

[Racer24]

So far for me after many attempts I still have not seen the alpha completely booting.. first few times I tried it got part way then errored out stating it could not find the kernel and left me with continue, reboot, and something else for options.. changed the usb I was using 3rd fresh download and.. looked like it was all doing things, then black screen with computer still running fine keyboard responding etc.. Im using an Nvidia 3060ti on a displayport connection here, have not tried running an hdmi cable yet.. but I will keep trying unless anyone has a better idea :)

can't gather a quick info for obvious reasons lol or it would be posted here (well, I wouldn't actually have to post :) )

I'm using MX usb creator

QSI from MX-21.3 would help.
You might not need another download, try a different flashdrive (also try the one you created on a different computer if you have access to one to get an idea if there's a hardware incompatibility or a problem with the flashdrive).

Thanks Adrian for that, tried on my laptop and it worked as expected.. hooked up an hdmi cable to my monitor and tried again.. same issue.. here is the QI maybe you can spot something there.. Monitor is a 4k ASUS 28" VP28UQG if that makes any difference :)

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System:    Kernel: 6.2.9-4-liquorix-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: audit=0 intel_pstate=disable hpet=disable rcupdate.rcu_expedited=1 
           BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.2.9-4-liquorix-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.18.1 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.18.0 vt: 7 
           dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-21.3_ahs_x64 Wildflower November 22  2021 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: ASUS product: N/A v: N/A serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: ASUSTeK model: ROG STRIX Z490-H GAMING v: Rev 1.xx serial: <filter> 
           BIOS: American Megatrends v: 2601 date: 05/17/2022 
CPU:       Info: 6-Core model: Intel Core i5-10600K bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Comet Lake 
           family: 6 model-id: A5 (165) stepping: 5 microcode: F0 cache: L2: 12 MiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 bogomips: 98397 
           Speed: 4800 MHz min/max: 800/4800 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 4800 2: 4100 3: 4797 
           4: 4100 5: 4100 6: 4805 7: 4100 8: 4100 9: 4100 10: 4100 11: 4100 12: 4100 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported 
           Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
           Type: mds status: Not affected 
           Type: meltdown status: Not affected 
           Type: mmio_stale_data mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: retbleed mitigation: Enhanced IBRS 
           Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 status: Vulnerable: eIBRS with unprivileged eBPF 
           Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA GA104 [GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Lite Hash Rate] vendor: eVga.com. 
           driver: nvidia v: 520.56.06 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:2489 class-ID: 0300 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.14 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.18.0 driver: loaded: nvidia 
           display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 2560x1600 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 677x423mm (26.7x16.7") 
           s-diag: 798mm (31.4") 
           Monitor-1: DP-0 res: 2560x1600 hz: 60 dpi: 105 size: 621x341mm (24.4x13.4") 
           diag: 708mm (27.9") 
           OpenGL: renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 520.56.06 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Comet Lake PCH cAVS vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           alternate: snd_sof_pci_intel_cnl bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:06c8 class-ID: 0403 
           Device-2: NVIDIA GA104 High Definition Audio vendor: eVga.com. driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:228b class-ID: 0403 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k6.2.9-4-liquorix-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 15.0 running: yes 
           Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.19 running: no 
Network:   Device-1: Intel Ethernet I225-V vendor: ASUSTeK driver: igc v: kernel port: 3000 
           bus-ID: 05:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:15f3 class-ID: 0200 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 2500 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 5.29 TiB used: 134.49 GiB (2.5%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 970 EVO 500GB 
           size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 
           type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 2B2QEXE7 temp: 35.9 C scheme: MBR 
           ID-2: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Western Digital model: WDS100T2B0A-00SM50 
           size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD 
           serial: <filter> rev: 20WD scheme: MBR 
           ID-3: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Seagate model: ST1000LX015-1U7172 size: 931.51 GiB 
           block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5400 
           serial: <filter> rev: SDM1 scheme: MBR 
           ID-4: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 type: USB vendor: Seagate model: Backup+ Desk 
           size: 1.82 TiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 4096 B type: N/A serial: <filter> 
           rev: 0404 scheme: MBR 
           ID-5: /dev/sdd maj-min: 8:48 type: USB vendor: HGST (Hitachi) model: TOURO Mobile 3.0 
           size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> 
           rev: 0000 scheme: MBR 
           ID-6: /dev/sde maj-min: 8:64 type: USB vendor: Western Digital 
           model: WD32 00BEVT-60ZCT1 WDC WD3200 size: 298.09 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B 
           logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> scheme: MBR 
           SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure? 
Partition: ID-1: / raw-size: 390.62 GiB size: 383.43 GiB (98.16%) used: 134.49 GiB (35.1%) 
           fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5 maj-min: 8:5 
Swap:      Alert: No swap data was found. 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 27.8 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 44 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nvidia fan: 0% 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 2612 lib: 1382 flatpak: 0 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ bullseye main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           3: deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free
           4: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-backports main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirror.it.ubc.ca/mxlinux/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           2: deb http://mirror.it.ubc.ca/mxlinux/mx/repo/ bullseye ahs
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nordvpn.list 
           1: deb https://repo.nordvpn.com/deb/nordvpn/debian/ stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/spotify.list 
           1: deb http://repository.spotify.com/ stable non-free
Info:      Processes: 324 Uptime: 7m wakeups: 1 Memory: 31.25 GiB used: 2.09 GiB (6.7%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 
           alt: 10 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.1.4-release inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)

[dolphin_oracle]

Someone reported earlier that clicking the internet connection notification to "never show this message again" -- has no effect. Just want to repeat this Xfce4 failure.

yep, true. looks like clicking the button doesn't actually disable messages. maybe it only works with gnomes notification daemon, I don't know.

what does work is right-clicking the network icon and selecting "disable notifications", although it turns them all off, not just particular notifications as the message inside the notification implies.

[dolphin_oracle]

Back to my "systray" problems, now on Installed HP Elitebook. Did some testing, and find:
1) that the BT icon is too small, smaller than anything else
2) that the Updater icon "pulse" is too big, wider than anything else
3) that the mixture of icon typer increases the perception of chaotic sizes
--I moved the battery above the actual systray > less chaos
--I introduced a separator at the upper end of the systray to signal that the others were "not the same"
The result is a significant improvement for my critical eye on this machine, and may be useful for discussion
BTW: the image below shows the Updater icon in black but I have set it repeatedly under "preferences" to white; not sure that is working correctly

currently the icon size in the system tray is set to automatically adjust with panel size. this has not been the case in the past, where we had them hard locked to a certain size. (22, always a smidge smaller than the panel icons). the icon size can still be set in the system tray settings, if you want to play with those.

also, the power manager systray icon appears to work again, so we could take that particular plugin off the panel

[asqwerth]

Back to my "systray" problems, now on Installed HP Elitebook. Did some testing, and find:
1) ....
2) that the Updater icon "pulse" is too big, wider than anything else
....

The pulse updater icons may need some updating to work at higher resolution? It's still a small size and in PNG while even our wireframe updater icons have been updated in size and to SVG.

@Melber ?

[Jerry3904]

also, the power manager systray icon appears to work again, so we could take that particular plugin off the panel

That would help, I think.

[asqwerth]

...
BTW: the image below shows the Updater icon in black but I have set it repeatedly under "preferences" to white; not sure that is working correctly

Choose the option that has actual black inside the empty box, but make sure you enable the option to make the interior transparent.

The option you are using now is for black icons on white/light colour panel, which is more common than you might think if you use kde plasma.