MX 21.3 KDE Nvidia driver installation frustration

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Solon
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Re: MX 21.3 KDE Nvidia driver installation frustration

#21 Post by Solon »

MadmanRB wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:51 pm Hey I would like to report that as of my recent try of MX linux MX 21.3 that the NVIDIA driver now installs properly! Time to test out some games and see how I fare!
Glad to hear of your success. You're clearly a 'power user' of Linux (unlike myself), so I won't offer any technical advice.

But as a long time MX user, I suggest that you take on-board the following article (which rambles a bit) which also mentions: init as well as: Systemd-shim towards the bottom.

Why MX Linux Uses SysVinit Instead Of Systemd

Over the years on this forum, I have seen folks have 'issues' with downloaded Debian software, and it often revolves around this packaging difference. This is one of the main differences between Ubuntu, Mint, et al, and MX. In this article, there is a linked YouTube video included from the man himself: MX's own Dolphin Oracle, where apparently you can Boot up in Systemd, although what benefits this entails is lost on me!

Personally, I don't understand it AT ALL (!), so I just stick with the MX Package Installer (MXPI), where the Developers have taken lots of Systemd programs and modified them to install under SysVinit protocols.

Folks like you who understand Debian can work-around this, make adjustment to many Systemd programs, play with 'tarballs', etc. and get most everything that they want to run in MX, but you need to have it in the back of your mind when you are out exploring the Internet and downloading stuff to try out! Anything you don't understand, if you search the Forum, you can probably find an answer. If not, start a new thread! Also, if you find something really neat, you can: "make a case for the software" by posting on the Board here for the Dev's to look at and maybe they will do the SysVinit 'thing' and port it into the MXPI for all to use. (Of course, if you know how to 'fix' it yourself, try it and it works, you can upload it to the Dev's, and they can then add it to the MXPI.)

P.S. If your issue here about the Nvidia drivers is still a work-in-progress, fine. But if you think it is now solved, then hit one of the Check-mark Boxes in the top right of a post, and it will label this Thread as "Solved" on the Forum. (Only the original poster can do this!)

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Re: MX 21.3 KDE Nvidia driver installation frustration

#22 Post by MadmanRB »

Yeah, well as I said even though my particular issue is solved I am keeping this open just in case someone wants to use it as a reference or if I have more issues down the road.

As for the systemd debate, honestly, if sysinit is causing so many issues for us end users, then maybe the MX developers should drop the BS and use systemd already.
I know the issues that systemd has like memory management and such, but that matters not when doing tasks like installing drivers and such becomes an issue.
And look I understand the hate systemd gets, but still since more and more things are using systemd as a dependency it's becoming a necessary evil.
Personally I think the best compromise is to keep sysinit for the main XFCE non AHS edition and use systemd for the others, I know that would mean issues but if systemd is such a major issue I don't see much choice TBH.
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Re: MX 21.3 KDE Nvidia driver installation frustration

#23 Post by Eadwine Rose »

@Solon Please only use different colors unless absolutely needed, this keeps the forum better readable for all, thanks.
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Re: MX 21.3 KDE Nvidia driver installation frustration

#24 Post by Huckleberry Finn »

MadmanRB wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:51 pm Hey I would like to report that as of my recent try of MX linux MX 21.3 that the NVIDIA driver now installs properly!
Because the Nvidia Driver Installer has been updated to include the above steps (after they worked for different users in different threads). Thank you for the feedback :)

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