MX-23 Fluxbox development

[Jerry3904]

Lots to digest there, thanks. Will add to the list.

[wdscharff]

Addendum to viewnior (which is now my default image viewer)

Theoretically, you could even do without Nitrogen for wallpaper, which, interestingly, hardly anyone refers to when it comes to the problem of dual monitor operation.

There are all sorts of suggestions and examples of how to edit the .fehbg, lastwallpaper and init (and not all of them work, some are also contradictory, I've been looking for a solution long enough now), but no one mentions Nitrogen, probably because they're all console fetishists with an aversion to GUI programs again ;-}
Nitrogen handles it perfectly, but honestly, how big is the share of Fluxbox multimonitor operators and couldn't a hint in the docs about Nitrogen be enough?

Just a suggestion to reconsider, if you are already streamlining Fluxbox and replacing gthumb with viewnior, put the knife in Nitrogen too :)

[Jerry3904]

Now curling back to @Melber's questions:

1. use rofi as appfinder substitute
OK. Would xfce-appfinder still be included in default installation?

Not sure ATM; if not, we would petition DO to add it to MXPI

4. change F2 to rofi runbox
Would another key combo be defined in keys file for the current F2 "rename file" function? eg. ctrl+ F2 currently assigned to "Exec fbrun"

Sorry, I conflated two questions: app and key setting. App: I would urge the much better-looking and capable rofi runbox I posted + video earlier. Key setting: currently default for fbrun is Ctrl + F2 and we could think about whether to keep that. Also not sure ATM

5. include gkrellm in comfort style
Include how? Comfort gkrellm themes as part of default installation or generally include monitor settings in saved looks?

7. change desktop files for mxfb-look and mx-rofi-manager into general names: Look manager, Rofi manager
OK, but not sure why do you want to remove MX "branding"?
New names:
Rofi-manager OK, does what it says on the box
Look Manager/Appearance Manager: not sure manager is the right word. I always liked "Look Library"

Open for discussion for sure

8. figure out how to translate labels in the idesk icon files
fehlix, DO?

I want to think about this first

9. use a Rofi power manager instead of exit-options ?
Thumbs up, all hail Rofi-Master Kobaian

+1

11. switch to viewnior or mirage (< Ceeslans) instead of gThumb
Had a quick look at it. Seems OK for a simple viewer.
What is the problem with gThumb? For me it is too much and too obscure
What is the difference to feh, imagemagick? It's much more user-friendly and attractive than feh, never use imagemagick as a gui
Do we need all three in the default install? Doubt it

[siamhie]

11. switch to viewnior or mirage (< Ceeslans) instead of gThumb


Personally I use nomacs. If i do a fresh install, I replace gThumb with nomacs. It has the ability to print and supports 59 extensions.

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[tequila]

12. [ideas?] mx-tools-Sorry //Settings Manager//custom-toolbox /etc/custom-toolbox/mxfb-settings.list// add "Redshift".Just an idea,it would be useful for a few people, you could use it to reduce the brightness on your computer at night.
It’s not perfect yet. someone who knows programming could improve it.
Need install "sct".
Vertical row is for testing,and it can be permanently adjusted with the lower row.

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#!/usr/bin/env bash

icon=cs-desktop

yad --mouse \
   --title "Redshift"  \
   --image="$icon" \
   --window-icon="$icon" \
   --text="choose                                                                              Test me!" \
   --button="3000":2 \
   --button="3500":3 \
   --button="4000":4 \
   --button="4500":5 \
   --button="5000":6 \
   --button="5500":7 \
   --button="6000":8 \
   --button="6500":9 \
   --button="7000":10 \
   --button="7200":11 \
   --button="7500":12 \
   --form \
   --field="7500K":fbtn "/usr/bin/sct 7500" \
   --field="7200K":fbtn "/usr/bin/sct 7200" \
   --field="7000K":fbtn "/usr/bin/sct 7000" \
   --field="6500Kdef.":fbtn "/usr/bin/sct 6500" \
   --field="6000K":fbtn "/usr/bin/sct 6000" \
   --field="5500K":fbtn "/usr/bin/sct 5500" \
   --field="5000K":fbtn "/usr/bin/sct 5000" \
   --field="4500K":fbtn "/usr/bin/sct 4500" \
   --field="4000K":fbtn "/usr/bin/sct 4000" \
   --field="3500K":fbtn "/usr/bin/sct 3500" \
   --field="3000K":fbtn "/usr/bin/sct 3000" \
   --button=gtk-cancel:1 \
   --on-top
ret=$?

case $ret in
2) adj=3000
   ;;
3) adj=3500
   ;;
4) adj=4000
   ;;
5) adj=4500
   ;;
6) adj=5000
   ;;
7) adj=5500
   ;;   
8) adj=6000
   ;;
9) adj=6500
   ;;
10) adj=7000
   ;;
11) adj=7200
   ;;
12) adj=7500
   ;;              
   
esac

/usr/bin/sct $adj

exit 0

[Jerry3904]

Thanks for the suggestion--but as you say it belongs in MX Tools and thus has nothing to do with this thread which is focused specifically on Fluxbox.

[kobaian]

Personally I use nomacs. If i do a fresh install, I replace gThumb with nomacs. It has the ability to print and supports 59 extensions.

As far as I remember, Nomacs was the default viewer before MX21 and I didn't like it at all. I use two kinds of applications: the ones that are very simple like gpicview for a quick-view on older machines and the ones like XnView, that is a really advanced image-browser. Nomacs is none of them. For me it was a kind of mystification, it pretends to give you some advanced options, but it doesn't do it well. Maybe it is the case that it can read .tif files now, but the last time I used it, it couldn't open my .tif panoramic photos created with Hugin.

[Jerry3904]

It will be hard to convince me that MXFB should come with anything except a basic viewer--and viewnior seems excellent for that purpose. That's the whole development model behind MXFB: provide some basic apps and point to MXPI for easy changes.

[kobaian]

It will be hard to convince me that MXFB should come with anything except a basic viewer--and viewnior seems excellent for that purpose. That's the whole development model behind MXFB: provide some basic apps and point to MXPI for easy changes.

I have tried Viewnior and it works ok to me. I think, if it became the default image-viewer, I will have no reason to turn to anything else on my old EEEPC machine. I like the fact, that it can open my .tif panoramas, the keybindings are intuitive (especially arrow-left and arrow-right). I probably won't miss gpicview. So I vote for Viewnior!

[dolphin_oracle]

alternate idea on idesktop links. instead of trying to translate them, how about eliminating idesktop. its not actually used for much, especially given that the wallpaper is set by nitrogen.

the items would go into the top level of the menu.