Why my Asus K40I & K40IN freeze frequently with MX21? [canceled]

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Why my Asus K40I & K40IN freeze frequently with MX21? [canceled]

#1 Post by ldsemerchen »

I installed MX on a lot of computers and it worked perfect but 2 notebooks: Asus K40I and K40IN.
It freeze frequently and takes me 30 times longer to handle a simple thing such as upgrade, open a terminal etc. Everything.
It happened with new version of MX Linux. In the same time, it worked well and smooth as I installed Sparky Linux which also based on Debian stable.
I don't know why. I want my machine with the same MX. But if I can't find the reason, I can't install MX on them.

*** asus k40i

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Snapshot created on: 20221212_0909
System:    Kernel: 5.10.0-20-amd64 [5.10.158-2] x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-20-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel, plank wm: xfwm 4.16.1 vt: 7 
           dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: LDSMX-21.2.1_x64 Wildflower 12月 12  2022 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: ASUSTeK product: K40IE v: 1.0 serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 10 
           serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: ASUSTeK model: K40IE v: 1.0 serial: <filter> BIOS: American Megatrends v: 207 
           date: 01/12/2010 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 1.7 Wh (17.9%) condition: 9.5/46.2 Wh (20.5%) volts: 5.6 min: 11.1 
           model: ASUSTEK F82--22 type: Li-ion serial: N/A status: Charging 
CPU:       Info: Dual Core model: Pentium T4400 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Penryn family: 6 
           model-id: 17 (23) stepping: A (10) microcode: A0B cache: L2: 1024 KiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 bogomips: 8799 
           Speed: 1200 MHz min/max: 1200/2200 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1200 2: 1200 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion 
           Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations 
           Type: retbleed status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 
           mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA GT218M [GeForce 310M] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: nouveau v: kernel 
           bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0a75 class-ID: 0300 
           Device-2: Chicony 2.0M UVC Webcam / CNF7129 type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-7:3 
           chip-ID: 04f2:b071 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter> 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.16.1 driver: 
           loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.2x8.0") 
           s-diag: 414mm (16.3") 
           Monitor-1: LVDS-1 res: 1366x768 hz: 60 dpi: 112 size: 309x174mm (12.2x6.9") 
           diag: 355mm (14") 
           OpenGL: renderer: NVA8 v: 3.3 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: NVIDIA MCP79 High Definition Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel bus-ID: 00:08.0 chip-ID: 10de:0ac0 class-ID: 0403 
           Device-2: NVIDIA High Definition Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus-ID: 02:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0be3 class-ID: 0403 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.0-20-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
           vendor: ASUSTeK U6V/U31J laptop driver: r8169 v: kernel port: e800 bus-ID: 03:00.0 
           chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter 
           vendor: AzureWave AW-NE785 / AW-NE785H 802.11bgn driver: ath9k v: kernel modules: wl 
           port: e800 bus-ID: 04:00.0 chip-ID: 168c:002b class-ID: 0280 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Bluetooth: Device-1: ASUSTek BT-270 Bluetooth Adapter type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 4-1:2 
           chip-ID: 0b05:1788 class-ID: fe01 serial: <filter> 
           Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 1.2 lmp-v: 2.1 
           sub-v: 4203 hci-v: 2.1 rev: fe 
           Info: acl-mtu: 1021:8 sco-mtu: 64:1 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff park 
           link-mode: slave accept service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 111.79 GiB used: 11.17 GiB (10.0%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: A-Data model: SU650 size: 111.79 GiB block-size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 1.5 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 2c08 
           scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw-size: 106.16 GiB size: 103.93 GiB (97.90%) used: 11.17 GiB (10.7%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 
Swap:      Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) 
           ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 5.62 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 
           dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 64.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nouveau temp: 54.0 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 2445 lib: 1284 flatpak: 0 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://free.nchc.org.tw/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://free.nchc.org.tw/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mxlinux.cs.nctu.edu.tw/mx-workspace/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mxpitemp.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teams.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/ms-teams stable main
Info:      Processes: 196 Uptime: 6m wakeups: 2 Memory: 7.77 GiB used: 965.7 MiB (12.1%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 
           alt: 10 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.1.4-release inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)
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Snapshot created on: 20221212_0909
System:    Kernel: 5.10.0-19-amd64 [5.10.149-2] x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-19-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel, plank wm: xfwm 4.16.1 vt: 7 
           dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: LDSMX-21.2.1_x64 Wildflower 12月 12  2022 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: ASUSTeK product: K40IN v: 1.0 serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 10 
           serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: ASUSTeK model: K40IN v: 1.0 serial: <filter> BIOS: American Megatrends v: 220 
           date: 11/18/2009 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 25.3 Wh (58.4%) condition: 43.3/49.5 Wh (87.5%) volts: 11.7 
           min: 10.8 model: ASUSTEK F82--22 type: Li-ion serial: N/A status: Charging 
CPU:       Info: Dual Core model: Pentium T4300 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Penryn family: 6 
           model-id: 17 (23) stepping: A (10) microcode: A0B cache: L2: 1024 KiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 bogomips: 8399 
           Speed: 2100 MHz min/max: 1200/2100 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2100 2: 2100 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion 
           Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations 
           Type: retbleed status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 
           mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA C79 [GeForce G102M] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: nouveau v: kernel 
           bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0873 class-ID: 0300 
           Device-2: Chicony 2.0M UVC Webcam / CNF7129 type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-5:3 
           chip-ID: 04f2:b071 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter> 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.16.1 driver: 
           loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.2x8.0") 
           s-diag: 414mm (16.3") 
           Monitor-1: LVDS-1 res: 1366x768 hz: 60 dpi: 112 size: 309x174mm (12.2x6.9") 
           diag: 355mm (14") 
           OpenGL: renderer: NVAC v: 3.3 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: NVIDIA MCP79 High Definition Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel bus-ID: 00:08.0 chip-ID: 10de:0ac0 class-ID: 0403 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.0-19-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
           vendor: ASUSTeK U6V/U31J laptop driver: r8169 v: kernel port: e800 bus-ID: 03:00.0 
           chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter 
           vendor: AzureWave AW-NE785 / AW-NE785H 802.11bgn driver: ath9k v: kernel modules: wl 
           port: e800 bus-ID: 04:00.0 chip-ID: 168c:002b class-ID: 0280 
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 111.79 GiB used: 9.96 GiB (8.9%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: A-Data model: SU650 size: 111.79 GiB block-size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 1.5 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 2c08 
           scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw-size: 106.16 GiB size: 103.93 GiB (97.90%) used: 9.96 GiB (9.6%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 
Swap:      Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) 
           ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 5.62 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 
           dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 60.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nouveau temp: 68.0 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 2436 lib: 1280 flatpak: 0 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://free.nchc.org.tw/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://free.nchc.org.tw/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mxlinux.cs.nctu.edu.tw/mx-workspace/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mxpitemp.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teams.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/ms-teams stable main
Info:      Processes: 195 Uptime: 12m wakeups: 2 Memory: 3.84 GiB used: 1.11 GiB (28.8%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 
           alt: 10 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.1.4-release inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)
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Re: Why my Asus K40I & K40IN freeze frequently with MX21?

#2 Post by Huckleberry Finn »

Distro: LDSMX-21.2.1 :confused:

You can try with antiX 4.19 (even antiX 4.9) kernel from "MX Package Installer". It/they will be under "Advanced Options" on grub to boot with.
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Re: Why my Asus K40I & K40IN freeze frequently with MX21?

#3 Post by timkb4cq »

You might try installing the nvidia drivers with the Nvidia Driver Installer in the MX menu.
I also notice they both appear to be running a little hot for only being on a few minutes (6min & 12 min by the QSI). I'd check them for dust clogging the airways. The CPUs could be being throttled.
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Re: Why my Asus K40I & K40IN freeze frequently with MX21?

#4 Post by ldsemerchen »

Huckleberry Finn wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:05 pm Distro: LDSMX-21.2.1 :confused:

You can try with antiX 4.19 (even antiX 4.9) kernel from "MX Package Installer". It/they will be under "Advanced Options" on grub to boot with.
I made my own respin from MX for sharing.
If it's the problem of kernel, why Sparky won't 'freeze'? They are the same kernel version.
I also tried booting from SysVinit to Systemd, still the same.
Maybe I can try to downgrade or upgrade the kernel for testing. Thanks!
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Re: Why my Asus K40I & K40IN freeze frequently with MX21?

#5 Post by ldsemerchen »

timkb4cq wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 1:47 pm You might try installing the nvidia drivers with the Nvidia Driver Installer in the MX menu.
I also notice they both appear to be running a little hot for only being on a few minutes (6min & 12 min by the QSI). I'd check them for dust clogging the airways. The CPUs could be being throttled.
I don't like Nvidia at all. I always use the original driver. When boot from live USB, it's better and smooth.
After installing to SSD, it freeze few seconds every few seconds. So it's hard to operate it. Lag.
But the same machine with Sparky is normal.
I will try another distro. for further test. Thanks!
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Re: Why my Asus K40I & K40IN freeze frequently with MX21?

#6 Post by Huckleberry Finn »

ldsemerchen wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 5:36 pmmade my own respin from MX ...
So, we need to know if it's the same with the official MX iso.
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Re: Why my Asus K40I & K40IN freeze frequently with MX21?

#7 Post by ldsemerchen »

Huckleberry Finn wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 6:24 pm
ldsemerchen wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 5:36 pmmade my own respin from MX ...
So, we need to know if it's the same with the official MX iso.
OK. I'll install the original MX.
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Re: Why my Asus K40I & K40IN freeze frequently with MX21?

#8 Post by Huckleberry Finn »

You can simply try on live session if you like.
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Re: Why my Asus K40I & K40IN freeze frequently with MX21?

#9 Post by ldsemerchen »

Maybe it's my fault. I installed the original MX, the freeze status almost disappear. But when I do the system upgrade, it took me more than one hour to upgrade to kernel 5.10.0-20-amd64.
As I mentioned top of the post, only these 2 notebooks has such problem.
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Re: Why my Asus K40I & K40IN freeze frequently with MX21?

#10 Post by timkb4cq »

Most of that time is probably spent rebuilding dkms wireless drivers which that hardware doesn't use.
If you purge the four realtek dkms packages (rtl8812au-dkms, rtl8814au-dkms, rtl8821ce-dkms, rtl8821cu-dkms) kernel installs will go much faster.
We need to find a way to have those available on the Live system so users with those common adapters get wifi but not rebuild them automatically if the hardware isn't present.
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