buying new micro PC compat with MX, any advice?

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Re: buying new micro PC compat with MX, any advice?

#11 Post by pianokeyjoe »

dings wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 4:35 pm One of my machines is a new Minisforum UM 340 mini PC (Ryzen 5 3450U, 16 GB RAM), running flawlessly so far on MX-21 KDE. Mostly reading, writing, YouTube, a little VR. It actually performs better than my slightly better equipped Windows PC.
I had to laugh at that last part lol! "It actually performs better than my slightly better equipped Windows PC", :p
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#12 Post by luk3Z »

pianokeyjoe wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 5:20 pm
luk3Z wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 1:53 am What about HP & Dell Thin (Celeron N2807, N4000 & AMD GX-212JC & GX-217GA) Clients ?
I know they are not super fast but they are energy efficient enough (good for NAS, web browsing, playing video & old good calssic games '90-2k5).
Does somebody tried MX with them ?
BTW greetings everyone.
I have 6 HP T5740 Intel Atom based thin clients a(...)
Atom is lacking a lot of CPU instructions. It is probably the slowest CPU from Intel.
Anyway thanks for the infos.

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Celeron-N ... -Atom-N280
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Atom-N280 ... s-GX-217GA
https://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/5/AMD ... _N280.html

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#13 Post by imschmeg »

I'm looking at more powerful Intel NUCs or AMD minis (or Dell OptiPlex's). Haven't bought a new desktop or laptop in over a decade, and intend to go at least another decade after this purchase. Linux is, of course, the reason I've been able to function very well on elderly hardware. So no celerons or atoms for me.

Started checking out SimplyNUC, which has a larger selection than System76 or StarLabs.

I like the idea of the small form factor with laptop power usage sensibilities, but without being a laptop. I have a laptop that I use almost exclusively docked to an external display, keyboard and mouse - and when out I use a smartphone instead (yeah, wish that was Linux too, with full capability [not Ubuntu Touch] ... maybe someday...). That's probably common and probably the reason why Intel/AMD decided to turn their supply and manufacturing capability of laptop parts into NUCs and minis. And the NUC/mini would give me even more flexibility on that workstation setup.

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#14 Post by pianokeyjoe »

Intel NUCs are the way @imschmeg . From the sounds of it, solid state, silent, fanless, and powerful. Just remember iCore or better for the money then. Yes a Dell optiplex ultra small form factor is nice but if you are looking at NUCs? You already know what you want. Go for it!! And yes, MX will work as long as you disable that stupid secureboot.
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#15 Post by imschmeg »

@pianokeyjoe -
Intel NUCs are the way...
So, specifically NOT AMD minis? Is there a problem with AMD minis vs. MX linux, even MX-AHS?
In terms of price/performance, AMD is beating Intel recently.

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#16 Post by pianokeyjoe »

I honestly can not answer on non intel devices as I do not have any. I can say you would be best off using MX LINUX AHS for any newer hardware be that Intel or AMD. I would say get the device that best suits your budget/needs. I personally only had experience with INTEL devices both good and bad(mostly good), and with AMD I have only had bad experiences(older pre 2011 hardware) and have never owned anything modern from AMD/Nvidia. I say try both and see which device gives you the best for your money.
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#17 Post by CharlesV »

I have 9 of these out there with mx-19 on them and have not had an issue with any of them.
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/c/desktops ... eries-tiny

The m70q has been AMAZING with an i7 and 8gb ram, stellar little unit.

I also have now purchased several from here (old models), https://featuremarketing.com/product-ca ... -desktops/ and they are AWESOME for low cost, bang for the buck units!
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#18 Post by luk3Z »

CharlesV wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:56 pm I have 9 of these out there with mx-19 on them and have not had an issue with any of them.
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/c/desktops ... eries-tiny

The m70q has been AMAZING with an i7 and 8gb ram, stellar little unit.

I also have now purchased several from here (old models), https://featuremarketing.com/product-ca ... -desktops/ and they are AWESOME for low cost, bang for the buck units!
There is one drawback with Lenovo minis: they have Intel Core "T" series CPUs which are not very energy (and money) efficient (I talking about power savings).
Currently in my country (Poland) a lot of used M72e models are selling on auction portals. There is no drawback when you need that power form this type of CPUs.
For me at home CPUs from "U" series are better ones (TDP 15W is enough). Currently my CPU (i7 5500U) is using 1.7~3.2W when I typing this message.
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#19 Post by rokytnji.1 »

Cheaper for me to turn a Samsung Chromebox into a MX box. Less than 40 bucks is what I paid for mine. Came from a app department that was done with it.

Granted developer mode has to be run and bios socket jumpered but not that hard from previous experience turning a chromebook into a antiX laptop.

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