[SOLVED] Persistence - The best guide for all options?

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Re: Persistence - The best guide for all options?

#21 Post by handy »

@Sparky I think that the guides (written & video) that I have seen all essentially say much the same thing in different ways. They are old, but the fundamentals of use (of persistence at least - I haven't got into the other stuff yet - remaster & snapshot) are not really distro version dependent. (I don't think that Remaster or Snapshot would be any different, they are all tools that operate "on" a distro, the distro is just data to be backed up in various ways via various scripts.)

A question that I have is whether "Automatic" is functioning or not with Persistence? As I think it was when DO made his video (in 2015 I think?). But it says that it is not in the current version of the software. Which is OK, option 2. Semi Automatic, works fine.
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Re: Persistence - The best guide for all options?

#22 Post by figueroa »

Sparky wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 4:27 am Does this guide also apply to MX-21?
Yes. There have been some small changes and code improvements that don't affect the usefulness of the referenced guide.
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#23 Post by figueroa »

handy wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 10:55 pm ...
A question that I have is whether "Automatic" is functioning or not with Persistence? As I think it was when DO made his video (in 2015 I think?). But it says that it is not in the current version of the software. Which is OK, option 2. Semi Automatic, works fine.
Just follow your nose in the MX Remaster CC program.
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#24 Post by handy »

@figueroa yes, I will follow my nose, it won't be a problem.

Also, yesterday I made an MXDE-21.1_ahs_x64.iso into an MXLive stick. I chose persist_all & save option 1. Automatic . It works fine. So Automatic is a goer.
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#25 Post by figueroa »

Let me explain the joy of semi-automatic. You are having a bad day, and totally screw up your system while working in a persistent live-usb. Now, with semi-automatic, upon shutting down you can answer NO, and when you reboot, all your mistakes will be erased. If you are running with automatic persistence, your system becomes toast. That is all.
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figueroa wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 3:07 pm Let me explain the joy of semi-automatic. You are having a bad day, and totally screw up your system while working in a persistent live-usb. Now, with semi-automatic, upon shutting down you can answer NO, and when you reboot, all your mistakes will be erased. If you are running with automatic persistence, your system becomes toast. That is all.
Yes, a semi-automatic toast.

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#27 Post by handy »

I understand that mistakes made are automatically written. Just like files/directories deleted (when you use no garbage bin) are gone for good.
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#28 Post by LU344928 »

figueroa wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 3:07 pm Let me explain the joy of semi-automatic. You are having a bad day, and totally screw up your system while working in a persistent live-usb. Now, with semi-automatic, upon shutting down you can answer NO, and when you reboot, all your mistakes will be erased. If you are running with automatic persistence, your system becomes toast. That is all.
Or you could just run persist-config before you reboot/shutdown and then change it to semi-automatic.

But you first have to realize you have had a bad day and messed things up, it goes without saying...
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#29 Post by taraxacum »

fehlix wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 4:59 am
Suggest, to "put" the MX-21.1 iso with help of "MX LiveUSB Maker" onto the USB stick.
Alternatively run the CLI tool live-usb-maker.
Choose "full featured" mode, not read-only dd-dump mode.
To enable persistence select persistence boot parameter.
MX-Live USB Generator.

I'm doing my first application steps with the tool and have understood the application to start an .ISO with it to some extent - my first attempts have worked anyway. I have set boot options up in the DOS BIOS F10, or I can choose between USB, CD-ROM, hard disk, network with F9 in the Bios boot menu.

I've worked with different sticks and noticed differences that are probably related to read-write speeds.
I use standard USB 2.0 for my desktop PC's.

What reading and writing speed and minimum memory size are required for the sticks to function optimally ?

1. For an application to install MX-Linux (instead of burning DVD..)
For a snapshot ISO including updates, a little more storage space is probably required.

2. For an application for an MX Live installation...(e.g. use only for separate home banking).... do you have any special suggestions?

I've searched the forum and the instructions for such technical information, but haven't found any.

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Re: [SOLVED] Persistence - The best guide for all options?

#30 Post by handy »

1. You just need to have a stick with enough storage capacity to do whatever your needs are. I 8GB or larger is great.

2. You can encrypt the stick if you keep any data that you'd prefer to keep private.

This is a good link & the video is great too:

https://mxlinux.org/wiki/help-files/help-mx-remaster/
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