dolphin_oracle's respins (updated June 23, 2024)

[mgp]

Whats the root password for the bare edition ISO ? I'm trying to access other drives on the pc before installing and i need root access.

[mgp]

never mind figured out it is demo

[dolphin_oracle]

just added a "bare" version that is systemd-only. notes in the first post.

[Bamber]

I wonder if there's any negative if choosing systemd in boot options with the regular/official ISO?

[Jerry3904]

Lots of users use systemd without complaint.

[davidy]

What does "bare bones" actually mean? I have a new bare-bone pc (waiting on a hd) that I want systemd on only as I found that trying to get vpn's working in sysvinit is more hassle than it's worth. What desktop and what kernel? Or is there a choice when installing? The thought of removing everything you don't actually use is not a bad idea. If your graphics are radeon on an amd, are the intel drivers removable then? I realize each device really needs it's own personal install regardless if it's the same OS.
My laptop uses intel but I see nvidia installed on my system. I assume I could just remove them?
Still downloading the bare-bones systemd only 64bit iso...

[dolphin_oracle]

What does "bare bones" actually mean? I have a new bare-bone pc (waiting on a hd) that I want systemd on only as I found that trying to get vpn's working in sysvinit is more hassle than it's worth. What desktop and what kernel? Or is there a choice when installing? The thought of removing everything you don't actually use is not a bad idea. If your graphics are radeon on an amd, are the intel drivers removable then? I realize each device really needs it's own personal install regardless if it's the same OS.
My laptop uses intel but I see nvidia installed on my system. I assume I could just remove them?

its the basic Xfce installation and MX tools, 5.10 kernel, but without many other applications. Firefox is still installed though.

I need to update the systemd-only one. there are some changes in MX packages that aren't present on it and won't be because of the way its built.

[davidy]

Cool. Sounds like it is something one would use if you had a specific application for the appliance itself. I'm gonna try av-linux first then. I planned on running a vm of windows10 on top of mx so my 'appliance' will be kind of a jack of all trades affair. We'll see. Thanks Dolphin.

[Michael-IDA]

Lots of users use systemd without complaint.

'Cause they don't know better

Seriously, you generally need to reboot systemd more often because of it's architecture. Systemd is also more of a pita from a system admin's standpoint as all the log files are binary (normal desktop users, who don't seem to ever read logs anyway, probably won't see any difference). It also sucketh on low memory servers as services will crash and reload (a freaking lot!). From experience expect to see notices about lmtp and dnsadmin (cPanel) failing and recovering daily on a server with 1G RAM or less.*

ymwv,
Michael

* Bumping swap up to 2G will solve the fail/recovery cycle at the cost of your box is slower.

[dolphin_oracle]

updated my bare and bare-systemd-only spins.