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#11 Post by figueroa »

One can always install alternate desktop on any of the versions. LXDE especially is quite small and it's well configured out of the box. Having it doesn't require a respin.
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#12 Post by LU344928 »

seaken64 wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:10 pm I think the 64-bit "bare" version would be good to try experimenting with LXDE/LXQT? That was brought up in another thread and I'd like to start playing with that idea.
I heard that LXDE isn't undergoing further development and Lxqt has taken over. But I often see it around and last time I looked it was in MX's repo ???
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#13 Post by seaken64 »

Yes, development has moved on to LXQt. But the LXDE is still being maintained by volunteers. And yes, it is in MXPI.

I am using LXDE now. I started with MX-21 XFCE. Then I used the MXPI to install LXDE. Then I restarted and chose the LXDE session from the drop down list on the top of the desktop manager/login manager.

It is familiar to me, having used Lubuntu and Peppermint and LXLE in the past. But now I remember why I ended up using Xubuntu and then MX. One thing that was always annoying to me was there was no setting widget to turn off the damn tap to click feature or turn off the touchpad while typing. I have retyped this paragraph several times due to errant characters being inserted where I did not intend.

I'm sure there are ways around this and some LXDE fans will be able to point me in the right direction. But I do remember that LXDE was harder to configure to my liking than XFCE. And I prefer antiX's approach to setting up the desktop environment and antiX is better in low memory.

But I am intrigued and I will try to manage LXDE for awhile to see if I can learn to handle it.

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#14 Post by LU344928 »

seaken64 wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:34 pm Yes, development has moved on to LXQt. But the LXDE is still being maintained by volunteers. And yes, it is in MXPI.

I am using LXDE now. I started with MX-21 XFCE. Then I used the MXPI to install LXDE. Then I restarted and chose the LXDE session from the drop down list on the top of the desktop manager/login manager.

It is familiar to me, having used Lubuntu and Peppermint and LXLE in the past. But now I remember why I ended up using Xubuntu and then MX. One thing that was always annoying to me was there was no setting widget to turn off the damn tap to click feature or turn off the touchpad while typing. I have retyped this paragraph several times due to errant characters being inserted where I did not intend.

I'm sure there are ways around this and some LXDE fans will be able to point me in the right direction. But I do remember that LXDE was harder to configure to my liking than XFCE. And I prefer antiX's approach to setting up the desktop environment and antiX is better in low memory.

But I am intrigued and I will try to manage LXDE for awhile to see if I can learn to handle it.

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It's familiar to me also as I switched to it when using Fedora some years ago as I didn't like Gnome. It does live up to its name as it's very fast and easy on resources plus I liked the PCMan file manager.

Why don't you disable the touchpad while typing? On an Acer it's usually fn + F7. I'm typing this on an Asus and on this model it can't be done after booting. It can only be done by changing the setting in the BIOS. Somewhat inconvenient but I avoid that by always having it disabled and using a usb mouse, except on the rare occasion when I have to use both usb ports. And then I dread the thought of using the touchpad.

Edit: Before I get asked, why don't I use a usb hub, well I tried that, and on this laptop it works well with a mouse, keyboard, flash drive or anything else with low power requirements but as soon as I plug in an external hd, no go. Anyway it's not a big deal; like I said I only have to use both on rare occasions when my other laptop which has three ports is not with me.
Last edited by LU344928 on Sun Jan 09, 2022 3:14 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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LU344928 wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:26 pm
It's familiar to me also as I switched to it when using Fedora some years ago as I didn't like Gnome. It does live up to its name as it's very fast and easy on resources plus I liked the PCMan file manager.

Why don't you disable the touchpad while typing? On an Acer it's usually fn + F7. I'm typing this on an Asus and on this model it can't be done after booting. It can only be done by changing the setting in the BIOS. Somewhat inconvenient but I avoid that by always having it disabled and using a usb mouse, except on the rare occasion when I have to use both usb ports. And then I dread the thought of using the touchpad.
Just a thought but why not get something like this, 4-Port USB 3.0 Hub with Individual LED Power Switches.

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-4-Port-I ... B00JX1ZS5O
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#16 Post by seaken64 »

I learned to use a synaptics config command to turn off tapping back when I was learning antiX. I will go back and re-learn that technique, or look for a widget that works in LXDE.

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#17 Post by LU344928 »

towwire wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:43 pm
LU344928 wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:26 pm
It's familiar to me also as I switched to it when using Fedora some years ago as I didn't like Gnome. It does live up to its name as it's very fast and easy on resources plus I liked the PCMan file manager.

Why don't you disable the touchpad while typing? On an Acer it's usually fn + F7. I'm typing this on an Asus and on this model it can't be done after booting. It can only be done by changing the setting in the BIOS. Somewhat inconvenient but I avoid that by always having it disabled and using a usb mouse, except on the rare occasion when I have to use both usb ports. And then I dread the thought of using the touchpad.
Just a thought but why not get something like this, 4-Port USB 3.0 Hub with Individual LED Power Switches.

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-4-Port-I ... B00JX1ZS5O
You beat me to it - I wasn't quick enough with that edit above. :)
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Re: dolphin_oracle's respins

#18 Post by seaken64 »

It's not convenient for me to use a USB mouse while I have the laptop on my lap, so I use the touchpad in that case. I do sometimes set the laptop on a stand and plug in a USB keyboard/trackpad compo. And that combo gives me the option to turn off the trackpad.

I'll figure it out. It's just that LXDE does not make this type of thing as easy as XFCE does. Even antiX has a tool for the touchpad on the Control Centre.

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Arghhh! I can't take it anymore! I'm switching back to XFCE on this laptop. I'll try LXDE on one of my desktops. The cursor is all over the place with this touchpad.
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#19 Post by Antediluvian »

This thread really got diverted.

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#20 Post by seaken64 »

Yeah, sorry. That was probably my fault. Future comments on LXDE will go in another thread.

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