MX-21 "ahs" (Xfce) RC3 feedback

[MXRobo]

@fehlix
I almost always re-label in Gparted to differentiate and I am aware of the Grub menu from very recent experience.

But, I'm not too concerned with pretty names as I'm more concerned with functionality - as long as it works.
Originally, I thought it may be a bug, and I also thought that the distro entry in the /boot/efi/EFI and the username in the /home directory should be deleted when removing distros, that's one of the reasons that I wanted to differentiate. Also, I thought this may mix things up, similar to using the same usernames.

Currently, I'm just playing and will eventually figure out which distro(s) and versions I want to run. I'm going to have MX, because I love the newer packages in MXPI Testing, and Backports with the stability of Debian, but Mint works perfectly OOTB - particularly for the complete newbie laptop recipient.

So, sorry that I wasted you time with your kindly offered workarounds.
But Thank You, and I'll keep this in mind.

[fehlix]

So, sorry that I wasted you time with your kindly offered workarounds.

You might have missed the point of the reply, b/c other user might have the same question, hence the answer to the question for other user too.

[MXRobo]

Reported as potential issue, I'm not personally looking for a fix - I can live without it,
as I'll not normally have two MX distros installed at the same time, but....

Two distros installed:
Installed MX21-Xfce 1st
Installed MX21-Xfce-RC3-AHS 2nd

I can login to the last install - Xfce-AHS.
I can not login to the first install - Xfce.

I encountered this previously, but I reinstalled both distros to be certain that I didn't simply forget my password.

I get an error that is something like this:
ACPI BIOS error (bug) failure creating named object [\SMIB], AE already exists
ACPI error: AE not found, while solving named reference packa
Enter password for maintenance
Press Ctrl D to continue.

Hitting Ctrl D takes me to the login screen, but the password is not recognized.

I haven't tried fehlix's workaround, again not personally concerned.

QSI

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.14.0-3mx-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.14.0-3mx-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-21_ahs_rc3_x64 Wildflower October 25  2021 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Pavilion Laptop 15z-eh000 v: N/A serial: <filter> 
           Chassis: type: 10 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: HP model: 87C5 v: 35.24 serial: <filter> UEFI: AMI v: F.10 date: 11/03/2020 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 42.5 Wh condition: 42.5/42.5 Wh (100%) volts: 12.9/11.3 
           model: Hewlett-Packard Primary type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Full cycles: 382 
CPU:       Topology: 8-Core model: AMD Ryzen 7 4700U with Radeon Graphics bits: 64 type: MCP 
           arch: Zen family: 17 (23) model-id: 60 (96) stepping: 1 microcode: 8600106 
           L2 cache: 4096 KiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm bogomips: 31939 
           Speed: 1397 MHz min/max: 1400/2000 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1397 
           2: 1397 3: 1397 4: 1402 5: 1397 6: 1397 7: 1397 8: 1397 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected 
           Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
           Type: mds status: Not affected 
           Type: meltdown status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full AMD retpoline, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: 
           disabled, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: AMD Renoir vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: amdgpu v: kernel bus ID: 04:00.0 
           chip ID: 1002:1636 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: amdgpu,ati 
           unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: AMD RENOIR (DRM 3.42.0 5.14.0-3mx-amd64 LLVM 12.0.1) 
           v: 4.6 Mesa 21.2.3 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: AMD Renoir Radeon High Definition Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 04:00.1 chip ID: 1002:1637 
           Device-2: AMD Raven/Raven2/FireFlight/Renoir Audio Processor vendor: Hewlett-Packard 
           driver: snd_rn_pci_acp3x v: kernel bus ID: 04:00.5 chip ID: 1022:15e2 
           Device-3: AMD Family 17h HD Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel bus ID: 04:00.6 chip ID: 1022:15e3 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.14.0-3mx-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8822CE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter 
           vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: rtw_8822ce v: N/A port: f000 bus ID: 02:00.0 
           chip ID: 10ec:c822 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 931.51 GiB used: 6.26 GiB (0.7%) 
           ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Western Digital model: WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 size: 931.51 GiB 
           block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 serial: <filter> 
           rev: 211070WD scheme: GPT 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 30.00 GiB size: 29.36 GiB (97.87%) used: 6.10 GiB (20.8%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/nvme0n1p6 
           ID-2: /home raw size: 30.00 GiB size: 29.36 GiB (97.87%) used: 168.0 MiB (0.6%) 
           fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p4 
           ID-3: /tmp raw size: 8.00 GiB size: 7.78 GiB (97.21%) used: 544 KiB (0.0%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3 
           ID-4: swap-1 size: 8.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap swappiness: 15 (default 60) 
           cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 50.2 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 36 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bullseye ahs
Info:      Processes: 272 Uptime: 25m Memory: 15.01 GiB used: 1.47 GiB (9.8%) Init: SysVinit 
           v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: quick-system-in 
           running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

HTH

[davemx]

@MXRobo something similar happened to me. If you can log into the newer install, from there, mount the older one, and check /etc/fstab . When you installed the second one, its UUID may have changed.

[Leodudu]

High CPU usage from Xorg

With Mx Linux, the CPU usage by Xorg is about 30%. With Pop Os, with the same hardware, the usage is about 10% or slightly less.



The script below runs automatically at the start of the session (sometimes it fails, and I run it in the terminal).

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#!/bin/bash

xrandr --setprovideroutputsource NVIDIA-G0 modesetting
xrandr --output eDP-1 --primary --mode 1920x1080 --pos 1600x0 --rotate normal --reflect normal --output HDMI-1-0 --mode 1600x900 --pos 0x0 --rotate normal --output DP-1-0 --mode 1920x1080 --pos 3520x0 --rotate normal

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top - 11:54:33 up 3 min,  1 user,  load average: 0,46, 0,20, 0,07
Tarefas: 311 total,   1 em exec., 310 dormindo,   0 parado,   0 zumbi
%Cpu(s):  3,9 us,  0,7 sy,  0,1 ni, 95,3 id,  0,0 wa,  0,0 hi,  0,0 si,  0,0 st
MB mem :  15771,2 total,  12722,8 livre,   1404,9 usados,   1643,6 buff/cache
MB swap:   8192,0 total,   8192,0 livre,      0,0 usados,  13486,7 mem dispon.

    PID USUARIO   PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU  %MEM    TEMPO+ COMANDO                      
   2886 root      20   0   25,0g 187000 145604 S  36,4   1,2   0:55.92 Xorg                         
   4441 userr    20   0 3591924 419620 200924 S  14,2   2,6   0:26.51 GeckoMain                    
   4721 userr    20   0 2851384 248056 135284 S   6,3   1,5   0:12.26 Web Content                  
   2913 root     -51   0       0      0      0 S   1,3   0,0   0:02.15 irq/194-nvidia               
   3398 userr    20   0  559484  86148  65752 S   1,0   0,5   0:02.04 xfwm4                        
   1783 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,7   0,0   0:01.05 nvidia-modeset/              
   4283 userr    20   0  393032  44440  33984 S   0,7   0,3   0:01.54 xfce4-terminal               
   4296 userr    20   0  305464  22992  18684 S   0,7   0,1   0:00.81 conky                        
   4990 userr    20   0  501980  96736  77860 S   0,7   0,6   0:00.41 featherpad                   
     23 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,3   0,0   0:00.72 ksoftirqd/2                  
     79 root      20   0       0      0      0 I   0,3   0,0   0:00.85 kworker/u24:8-events_unbound 
    132 root      20   0       0      0      0 I   0,3   0,0   0:00.02 kworker/10:1-mm_percpu_wq    
    375 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,3   0,0   0:00.02 jbd2/nvme1n1p2-              
   3501 userr    20   0 1308876  21172  13776 S   0,3   0,1   0:00.66 pulseaudio                   
      1 root      20   0    3292   1904   1748 S   0,0   0,0   0:00.31 init                         
      2 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,0   0,0   0:00.00 kthreadd                     
      3 root       0 -20       0      0      0 I   0,0   0,0   0:00.00 rcu_gp                       
      4 root       0 -20       0      0      0 I   0,0   0,0   0:00.00 rcu_par_gp                   
      5 root      20   0       0      0      0 I   0,0   0,0   0:00.00 kworker/0:0-events           
      6 root       0 -20       0      0      0 I   0,0   0,0   0:00.00 kworker/0:0H-events_highpri  
      7 root      20   0       0      0      0 I   0,0   0,0   0:00.09 kworker/0:1-mm_percpu_wq  
      

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.14.0-2mx-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.14.0-2mx-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-21_ahs_x64 Wildflower October 10  2021 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Dell product: G3 3500 v: N/A serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 10 
           serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Dell model: 0W4V06 v: A00 serial: <filter> UEFI: Dell v: 1.9.0 date: 06/01/2021 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 44.1 Wh condition: 67.9/68.0 Wh (100%) volts: 15.2/15.2 
           model: SMP DELL 72WGV13 type: Li-poly serial: <filter> status: Unknown 
CPU:       Topology: 6-Core model: Intel Core i7-10750H bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: N/A 
           family: 6 model-id: A5 (165) stepping: 2 microcode: EA L2 cache: 12.0 MiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 62399 
           Speed: 2241 MHz min/max: 800/5000 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1228 2: 933 3: 800 4: 800 
           5: 800 6: 800 7: 984 8: 800 9: 800 10: 801 11: 800 12: 800 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
           Type: mds status: Not affected 
           Type: meltdown status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced IBRS, IBPB: conditional, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel CometLake-H GT2 [UHD Graphics] vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:9bc4 
           Device-2: NVIDIA TU106M [GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile] vendor: Dell driver: nvidia 
           v: 470.63.01 bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10de:1f15 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: modesetting,nvidia 
           unloaded: fbdev,nouveau,vesa alternate: nv 
           resolution: 1920x1080~144Hz, 1600x900~60Hz, 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics (CML GT2) v: 4.6 Mesa 21.2.3 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Comet Lake PCH cAVS vendor: Dell driver: sof-audio-pci-intel-cnl 
           bus ID: 00:1f.3 chip ID: 8086:06c8 
           Device-2: NVIDIA TU106 High Definition Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.1 chip ID: 10de:10f9 
           Device-3: Texas Instruments PCM2902 Audio Codec type: USB 
           driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid bus ID: 1-1.1.2:8 chip ID: 08bb:2902 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.14.0-2mx-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Intel Comet Lake PCH CNVi WiFi driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: 5000 
           bus ID: 00:14.3 chip ID: 8086:06f0 
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Realtek vendor: Dell driver: r8169 v: kernel port: 3000 bus ID: 3c:00.0 
           chip ID: 10ec:2502 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 931.51 GiB used: 201.59 GiB (21.6%) 
           ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB size: 931.51 GiB 
           block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 serial: <filter> 
           rev: 2B2QEXM7 scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB size: 931.51 GiB 
           block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 serial: <filter> 
           rev: 3B2QEXM7 scheme: GPT 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 923.25 GiB size: 907.69 GiB (98.31%) used: 201.59 GiB (22.2%) 
           fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme1n1p2 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 8.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap swappiness: 15 (default 60) 
           cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/nvme1n1p3 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 60.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirror.ufam.edu.br/mx/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           2: deb http://mirror.ufam.edu.br/mx/mx/repo/ bullseye ahs
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/spotify.list 
           1: deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teams.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/ms-teams stable main
Info:      Processes: 299 Uptime: 13m Memory: 15.40 GiB used: 1.76 GiB (11.4%) Init: SysVinit 
           v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: quick-system-in 
           running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

[MXRobo]

@MXRobo something similar happened to me. If you can log into the newer install, from there, mount the older one, and check /etc/fstab . When you installed the second one, its UUID may have changed.

@davemx
Thanks for the info. I have since removed and reinstalled one MX only, but I'll keep this in mind.

[SwampRabbit]

High CPU usage from Xorg

With Mx Linux, the CPU usage by Xorg is about 30%. With Pop Os, with the same hardware, the usage is about 10% or slightly less.

Interesting, I haven't seen Xorg sucking up that much resources constantly on the two systems I'm running MX-21 AHS RC3 on, but I'll take a look next time I'm messing with them.

[MXRobo]

Hello,
Will the MX21-Xfce-AHS final will have the 5.14 kernel or the 5.15 kernel as the default kernel,
or are you not disclosing that yet? My primary question is about the kernel, not the disclosure.
And, as I understand - 5.14 is not LTS, but 5.15 is LTS or will be, is that correct?
I wait with "baited" breath.

[SwampRabbit]

Hello,
Will the MX21-Xfce-AHS final will have the 5.14 kernel or the 5.15 kernel as the default kernel,
or are you not disclosing that yet? My primary question is about the kernel, not the disclosure.
And, as I understand - 5.14 is not LTS, but 5.15 is LTS or will be, is that correct?
I wait with "baited" breath.

I don't know really, I messaged dolphin_oracle about that, but haven't gotten back on our Dev Slack channel yet as I'm testing some other things under another AHS RC install.

Personally I would prefer to go to 5.15 because it is an LTS and because to hopefully fix potential issues some users are having with 5.14.

[SwampRabbit]

High CPU usage from Xorg

With Mx Linux, the CPU usage by Xorg is about 30%. With Pop Os, with the same hardware, the usage is about 10% or slightly less.

I've been monitoring xorg usage since you're post, I've not seen it go over maybe 4-5% without having a bunch of things open or something doing a lot of work.
This is on a all AMD system and an Intel small board computer, so I can't verify there isn't a issue with systems similar to yours.