MX-21 "ahs" (Xfce) RC3 feedback

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MX-21 "ahs" (Xfce) RC3 feedback

#1 Post by dolphin_oracle »

Let's try this again :p

Feedback for MX-21 "ahs" (Xfce) RC3 goes here:

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Re: MX-21 "ahs" (Xfce) RC3 feedback

#2 Post by spsf64 »

Running "Live mode"

As I already reported here: https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 01#p658901
I noticed the sharing problem still persists, I cannot create any new file when I share a folder, but can create a folder, however I cannot create any sub-folder inside the new ones.

Suggestions:
1 Maybe ship warpinator as default to solve these samba problems?
2 As libreoffice is shipped by default, why don´t you provide some common templates like NewDoc.odt, NewSheet.ods, etc.. inside the templates folder?

Thanks for this great distro!
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Re: MX-21 "ahs" (Xfce) RC3 feedback

#3 Post by SwampRabbit »

@spsf64 is this samba issue localized to MX-21 AHS?
I don’t recall anyone mentioning this for standard MX-21.

I don’t believe that Warpinator (even though I package it for MX) is proper to be included in AHS. AHS is meant to be on par with standard MX-21 Xfce EXCEPT ONLY for the hardware and graphical packages. Also, Warpinator is not cross platform, it is limited to Linux and an unofficial Android app. Samba/SMB is a much more wide spread standard and provides much more interoperability.

I’m not understanding the LibreOffice template thing, can you expand on it more in a separate thread? If it’s some MX default you’re recommending, it should not be specific to AHS either, again not the point of AHS.
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Re: MX-21 "ahs" (Xfce) RC3 feedback

#4 Post by davemx »

Total double whammy! Not only does the RC3 produce exactly the same error on Suspend, (I should have expected that, as I had already tried the 5.14.0-3 kernel previously). Then after I finished looking at it, then tried to run my MX21-KDE partition, that wouldn't run, part way through the plymouth screen, it suddenly dropped to a text screen with the error:

[drm] <<ERROR>> failed to enable link training

I can log in as root (text) from there, and run the display manager, but all attempts to log in fail, they just come back to the DM.

P.S. My system data is in the MX21-ahs-RC1 thread, round about reply #36, having to post from another OS at present.
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Re: MX-21 "ahs" (Xfce) RC3 feedback

#5 Post by SwampRabbit »

@davemx did you check the ISO?

Also please post your QSI, it’s easier and faster than making us go dig it up in the other thread.
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Re: MX-21 "ahs" (Xfce) RC3 feedback

#6 Post by davemx »

SwampRabbit wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:28 am @davemx did you check the ISO?

Also please post your QSI, it’s easier and faster than making us go dig it up in the other thread.
I can now, before I had two MX partitions that weren't usable. I've got my XFCE-ahs ready now.

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.14.0-3mx-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.14.0-3mx-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-21_ahs_rc3_x64 Wildflower October 25  2021 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: H110I-PLUS v: Rev X.0x serial: <filter> 
           UEFI: American Megatrends v: 3805 date: 05/07/2018 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Pentium G4600 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Kaby Lake 
           family: 6 model-id: 9E (158) stepping: 9 microcode: EA L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 28800 
           Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 800/3600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 800 2: 800 3: 2381 4: 2313 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
           Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, 
           STIBP: conditional, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 630 vendor: ASUSTeK driver: i915 v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:5912 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
           resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 630 (KBL GT2) v: 4.6 Mesa 21.2.3 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 100 Series/C230 Series Family HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1f.3 chip ID: 8086:a170 
           Device-2: Solid Year SW72011 type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo bus ID: 1-5:3 
           chip ID: 060b:8038 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.14.0-3mx-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
           vendor: ASUSTeK PRIME B450M-A driver: r8169 v: kernel port: e000 bus ID: 03:00.0 
           chip ID: 10ec:8168 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Ralink RT5370 Wireless Adapter type: USB driver: rt2800usb bus ID: 1-10:9 
           chip ID: 148f:5370 serial: <filter> 
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 1.83 TiB used: 613.04 GiB (32.7%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: SanDisk model: SDSSDH32000G size: 1.82 TiB block size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 10RL temp: 28 C 
           scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: SanDisk model: Cruzer Blade size: 14.59 GiB 
           block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> rev: 1.00 scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 20.00 GiB size: 19.52 GiB (97.59%) used: 8.62 GiB (44.2%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/sda10 
           ID-2: /home raw size: 1.45 TiB size: 1.43 TiB (98.36%) used: 527.52 GiB (36.1%) 
           fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda12 
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 16.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap swappiness: 15 (default 60) 
           cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/sda5 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 36.0 C mobo: 27.8 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 1154 fan-1: 2284 fan-3: 0 fan-4: 0 fan-5: 0 fan-6: 0 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-earth-pro.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/earth/deb/ stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
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           2: deb http://mxlinux.mirrors.uk2.net/packages/mx/repo/ bullseye ahs
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vivaldi.list 
           1: deb http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb/ stable main
Info:      Processes: 284 Uptime: 1h 00m Memory: 15.51 GiB used: 2.06 GiB (13.3%) Init: SysVinit 
           v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: quick-system-in 
           running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 
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Re: MX-21 "ahs" (Xfce) RC3 feedback

#7 Post by SwampRabbit »

@davemx thanks.

So I’m definitely not tracking the suspend issue as much as I could.

But one thing to try is to use the 5.10 kernel with AHS and see if it still manifests.

Not sure what is up with your KDE install, it was working before?
Which kernel is that using?
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Re: MX-21 "ahs" (Xfce) RC3 feedback

#8 Post by davemx »

SwampRabbit wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:52 pm @davemx thanks.

So I’m definitely not tracking the suspend issue as much as I could.

But one thing to try is to use the 5.10 kernel with AHS and see if it still manifests.

Not sure what is up with your KDE install, it was working before?
Which kernel is that using?
Yes, I was using 5.10 on ahs-RC1 and it was fine with suspend. Obviously I don't know whether that will negatively impact on the AHS-goodness, but I'll install that and sort out grub.

I really have no idea what's happened with the KDE partition. I don't know whether it is caused by a fault in the /home/user area or the basic install. I downloaded ahs-rc3 and put it on a usb stick whilst running the MX21-KDE. It was working nicely until after I installed ahs-RC3, then when I tried to boot back into KDE I couldn't get to a desktop. I will re-install MX21-KDE this weekend to check whether it's a fault with /home/user. I can press CTRL-ALT-F3 to get to a text login, login as root, and get into a root desktop there. I've also been able to get into SDDM via that root, but when I try to log in as a user it doesn't, it just throws me back to SDDM.

Further on the suspend issue...

When I get the distorted screen following suspend, I've tried pressing CTRL-ALT-F3, log in as root, and run pm-hibernate. Obviously it returns to that same screen when I restart the computer, but now the screen is working OK and I can get back into my desktop by pressing CTRL-ALT-F7. So it's clearly just a graphics issue, all the stuff that should have been saved on Suspend is still there.
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#9 Post by dolphin_oracle »

davemx wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:51 pm
SwampRabbit wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:52 pm @davemx thanks.

So I’m definitely not tracking the suspend issue as much as I could.

But one thing to try is to use the 5.10 kernel with AHS and see if it still manifests.

Not sure what is up with your KDE install, it was working before?
Which kernel is that using?
Yes, I was using 5.10 on ahs-RC1 and it was fine with suspend. Obviously I don't know whether that will negatively impact on the AHS-goodness, but I'll install that and sort out grub.

I really have no idea what's happened with the KDE partition. I don't know whether it is caused by a fault in the /home/user area or the basic install. I downloaded ahs-rc3 and put it on a usb stick whilst running the MX21-KDE. It was working nicely until after I installed ahs-RC3, then when I tried to boot back into KDE I couldn't get to a desktop. I will re-install MX21-KDE this weekend to check whether it's a fault with /home/user. I can press CTRL-ALT-F3 to get to a text login, login as root, and get into a root desktop there. I've also been able to get into SDDM via that root, but when I try to log in as a user it doesn't, it just throws me back to SDDM.

Further on the suspend issue...

When I get the distorted screen following suspend, I've tried pressing CTRL-ALT-F3, log in as root, and run pm-hibernate. Obviously it returns to that same screen when I restart the computer, but now the screen is working OK and I can get back into my desktop by pressing CTRL-ALT-F7. So it's clearly just a graphics issue, all the stuff that should have been saved on Suspend is still there.
we have one report that intel graphics users may have some success switching to the "intel" xorg driver rather than using the default modesetting driver. there is an option in mx-tweak for that. we also have at least one report that it doesn't help, so YMMV.
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#10 Post by SwampRabbit »

I thought Kanu Lake was ok with modesetting for awhile now, Stevo has/had a Kaby Lake laptop, but who knows if a new bug was introduced which happens sometimes in this area.

There is some movement upstream, but I haven’t had time to dig into change logs and reports.
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