How do I upgrade to Thunderbird 91

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GlockdocVegas
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How do I upgrade to Thunderbird 91

#1 Post by GlockdocVegas »

I currently have TB68 installed, which is the latest version in the stable repo. 91 is available in the Flatpacks, but this just does a 2nd install, not an upgrade.

How can I upgrade to 91? Do I have to wait til it trickles down or is there a way to upgrade without a 2nd install?

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Re: How do I upgrade to Thunderbird 91

#2 Post by manyroads »

You can download and drop the new version of T'bird in your user or system space (basically perform something similar to a barebones install). Be aware: such things are discouraged in Debian based systems.... and all future updates will be manual. Not a big deal (to me) but manual nonetheless. (FWIW: I find v 78 just fine; it is in the MX21 repos....)

See:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/in ... bird-linux
https://wiki.debian.org/Thunderbird
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Re: How do I upgrade to Thunderbird 91

#3 Post by Eadwine Rose »

Also in the 19 ones, test tab in MXPI.
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Re: How do I upgrade to Thunderbird 91

#4 Post by monk »

I hope that I can ask a question so as not to open a new topic?
I have a question regarding updates/upgrades of Thunderbird. Currently I have the version 68.12.0. The latest version is somewhere around 91.
I personally don't care about the look etc.. One speaks nevertheless always, that one should make updates because of the security and error removal.
Does this not apply to Linux systems? I just always do the updates that are imported from Debian. I can't find version 78 in the repos, even though I updated the list.
Maybe someone from the Linux specialists can give me some clarification?
Thanks

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Re: How do I upgrade to Thunderbird 91

#5 Post by GlockdocVegas »

monk wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:23 am I hope that I can ask a question so as not to open a new topic?
I have a question regarding updates/upgrades of Thunderbird. Currently I have the version 68.12.0. The latest version is somewhere around 91.
I personally don't care about the look etc.. One speaks nevertheless always, that one should make updates because of the security and error removal.
Does this not apply to Linux systems? I just always do the updates that are imported from Debian. I can't find version 78 in the repos, even though I updated the list.
Maybe someone from the Linux specialists can give me some clarification?
Thanks
It appears we have to wait until 91 makes it's way downstream to us.

Manyroads solution doesn't get updates.

I have NO IDEA what Rose's comment even means.............

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Re: How do I upgrade to Thunderbird 91

#6 Post by Eadwine Rose »

It was a reply to manyroads, which means when you open MXPI in MX19 and go to the test tab, that version he mentioned is available there.
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Re: How do I upgrade to Thunderbird 91

#7 Post by GlockdocVegas »

Eadwine Rose wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:08 am It was a reply to manyroads, which means when you open MXPI in MX19 and go to the test tab, that version he mentioned is available there.
Oh, ok. My post was about 91, not 78. Explains my confusion.

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Re: How do I upgrade to Thunderbird 91

#8 Post by monk »

thank you for your answer. But that still explains my question in terms of security. Above in the post you have already mentioned that you just have to wait until the latest version 91 is available. Then you don't have to worry about the security of Thunderbird with old versions in Debian, right?

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Re: How do I upgrade to Thunderbird 91

#9 Post by CharlesV »

According to the thunderbird release notes for 91, there are several bugs that are fixed that affect linux systems.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/ ... sa2021-36/
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Re: How do I upgrade to Thunderbird 91

#10 Post by Buck Fankers »

monk wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:16 am
Currently I have the version 68.12.0

But that still explains my question in terms of security. ... Then you don't have to worry about the security of Thunderbird with old versions in Debian, right?
Well, for starter, if you look in tab: "MX Test Repo" of MX Package Installer, you will see there is version: 2:78.14 which is newer than what you currently have. But of course, not the newest. For newest stuff, you would need some other Linux version, typically based on Arch or other rolling distros. Problem is, (in my opinion) those are not that suitable for users with less Linux knowledge like me. (and I'm assuming like you, if you had to ask this question) :wink: I'm running Manjaro, but just for fun on a side. You should read their forum for potential problems before every system upgrade, since sometimes something goes wrong at upgrade. Debian gives you stability. I LOVE stability and I don't care for older versions. Although MX many times offers you newer versions than many other Debian based distros. So you have some kind of compromise.

About security. I don't use Thunderbird, since there is safer email version, Claws. It is in MXPI. Why is more secure? Since it does not allow HTML and other script like stuff executing in email body. Means, you only have ugly simple text. No icons, smileys, jumping pepperonis etc...

I like it that way. Safer. I don't care how it looks. It does the job. Check it out, if it is not too restrictive for you.

https://www.claws-mail.org/
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