MX-21 KDE/plasma RC1 feedback

[Marek]

Ok, I undestand all. Thanks for you response

[rainfox]

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Info:      Processes: 235 Uptime: 4m Memory: 7.65 GiB used: 844.9 MiB (10.8%) Init: systemd v: 247 runlevel: 5 default: 5 
           Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: quick-system-in running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

I'm having the same issue her. The Shutdown/Reboot Buttons in the login screen (SDDM?) are grayed out. How to check whether I'm using systemd or not?
I've installed the "sddm-modified-init" package.

You'll see it at the bottom of your QSI as Init: systemd, see above where I saved it from baldyeti's QSI they posted.

I'm booting with SysVInit.
Although I've installed the "sddm-modified-init" package, and no other user is logged in, the shutdown etc. buttons in SDDM are deactivated.
When I uninstalled "sddm-modified-init", sddm was not starting anymore. I had to log into the console and startx. After reinstalling it, SDDM did start again but still without the buttons activated.

During first installation there is this message:

• Configuration file '/etc/init.d/sddm'
  ==> Deleted (by you or by a script) since installation.
  ==> Package distributor has shipped an updated version.
  What would you like to do about it ? Your options are:
  Y or I : install the package maintainer's version
  N or O : keep your currently-installed version
  D : show the differences between the versions
  Z : start a shell to examine the situation
  The default action is to keep your current version.
  *** sddm (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?

I've choosen Y.
In a VM installation I did the same but choosen N. There the buttons are activated after installing the package.

Is it expected that after uninstalling sddm-modified-init, sddm is not starting anymore?
Could this package be installed during installation?

[dolphin_oracle]

the change with sddm-modified-init would go into effect on a reboot.

it will be preinstalled on final isos.

[markol]

Here are my impressions after a week of daily usage on my Lenovo Y50-70

It was a clean install on a new SSD (I kept the old one for... you know, just in case).
Some fine tuning (themes, icons, boot...), replaced Clementine with Audacious, disabled Discover, installed Synaptic and apt-notifier
Also installed additional browsers (Chromium, Falkon), IM (Skype, Caprine, Zoom) and dev environment (Codium, MySQL Workbench, Azure Data Studio)
Tranferred settings from the old install (for selected applications only) and VMs

And here we are... I really like this new release. Everything in KDE RC1 is running fine so far except for some early signs of dementia. No shaking, just forgetting things. For example it doesn't remember passwords for VPN and WiFi if I don't enter them in Network Manager widnow (same with KRDC). However it doesn't forget the history although I told it to do so. Funny. Forgets it should forget. Wait, what?
There were also those weird things with missing shutdown/reload icons in start menu, and some persistance was needed to set the correct background image for login and locked screen. KDE Connect also misbehaves sometimes (not pausing playback during calls, not showing phone battery in systray's "Battery and brightness")
And another thing(ie) - I have to paste QSI before closing the terminal otherwise its forgotten :) I don't know if this is a normal behaviour or not, but writing it down anyway.


However nothing critical, it's just great!
(10/10, would install again)

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.10.0-9-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-9-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro 
           init=/lib/systemd/systemd 
           Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.20.5 wm: kwin_x11 dm: SDDM Distro: MX-21_KDE_RC1_x64 Wildflower October 5  2021 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 20378 v: Lenovo Y50-70 serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 10 v: Lenovo Y50-70 
           serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: LENOVO model: Lenovo Y50-70 v: 31900058WIN serial: <filter> UEFI: LENOVO v: 9ECN36WW(V2.00) date: 01/12/2015 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT1 charge: 44.3 Wh condition: 44.3/54.8 Wh (81%) volts: 8.1/7.4 model: LENOVO PABAS0241231 type: Li-ion 
           serial: <filter> status: Full 
           Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech MK700 serial: <filter> charge: 70% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes 
           status: Discharging 
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-4720HQ bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Haswell family: 6 model-id: 3C (60) 
           stepping: 3 microcode: 28 L2 cache: 6144 KiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 41502 
           Speed: 2340 MHz min/max: 800/3600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2340 2: 2273 3: 2493 4: 3055 5: 2781 6: 2719 7: 2256 
           8: 2601 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
           Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: conditional, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
           chip ID: 8086:0416 
           Device-2: NVIDIA GM107M [GeForce GTX 960M] vendor: Lenovo driver: nvidia v: 470.63.01 bus ID: 01:00.0 
           chip ID: 10de:139b 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: modesetting,nvidia unloaded: fbdev,nouveau,vesa alternate: nv 
           compositor: kwin_x11 resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 4600 (HSW GT2) v: 4.5 Mesa 21.2.3 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio vendor: Lenovo driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:03.0 chip ID: 8086:0c0c 
           Device-2: Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:8c20 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.0-9-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Lenovo Z50-75 driver: rtl8723be v: kernel 
           port: 4000 bus ID: 08:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:b723 
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Lenovo driver: r8169 v: kernel port: 3000 
           bus ID: 09:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:8168 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
           IF-ID-1: ppp0 state: unknown speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: N/A 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 198.61 GiB (42.6%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 EVO 500GB size: 465.76 GiB block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B 
           speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 1B6Q scheme: GPT 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 457.50 GiB size: 449.25 GiB (98.20%) used: 198.61 GiB (44.2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 8.00 GiB used: 1.2 MiB (0.0%) fs: swap swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache pressure: 100 (default) 
           dev: /dev/sda3 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 48.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/microsoft-edge-beta.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/edge/ stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb https://ftp.arnes.si/mirrors/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           2: deb https://ftp.arnes.si/mirrors/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bullseye ahs
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/proxsign.list 
           1: deb https://proxsign.setcce.si/proxsign/repo/Debian_10/ ./
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype-stable.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.skype.com/deb stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teamviewer.list 
           1: deb http://linux.teamviewer.com/deb stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vscodium.list 
           1: deb [ signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/vscodium-archive-keyring.gpg ] https://paulcarroty.gitlab.io/vscodium-deb-rpm-repo/debs vscodium main
Info:      Processes: 346 Uptime: 1d 12h 36m Memory: 15.54 GiB used: 6.45 GiB (41.5%) Init: systemd v: 247 runlevel: 5 
           default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: quick-system-in running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

Oh, and just a side note... I already mentioned that I installed KDE RC1 on Asus 2in1 and I had to change X to Wayland because of its support for rotating screens and touch. It still works without crashes, but it's been used for simple tasks only (Skype, emails, some browsing, music).

XFCE installs following in the next week (or two) on the kids' laptops. Will report (in the XFCE topic).

[TOMCAT]

When I browse the web with Google Chrome, the mouse appears to be unclickable. How can I find out the cause of the problem?

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System:
  Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.10.0-9-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
  parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-9-amd64 
  root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet 
  Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.20.5 info: latte-dock wm: kwin_x11 
  dm: SDDM Distro: MX-21_KDE_RC1_x64 Wildflower October 5  2021 
  base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:
  Type: Portable System: Dell product: Inspiron 3421 v: N/A 
  serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 8 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: Dell model: 0D94X7 v: A08 serial: <filter> BIOS: Dell 
  v: A08 date: 09/09/2013 
CPU:
  Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5-3337U bits: 64 
  type: MT MCP arch: Ivy Bridge family: 6 model-id: 3A (58) 
  stepping: 9 microcode: 21 L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
  flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx 
  bogomips: 14366 
  Speed: 1915 MHz min/max: 800/2700 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 
  1: 1915 2: 1950 3: 1968 4: 1956 
  Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit 
  status: KVM: VMX disabled 
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache 
  flushes, SMT vulnerable 
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable 
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass 
  disabled via prctl and seccomp 
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and 
  __user pointer sanitization 
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: 
  conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: conditional, RSB filling 
  Type: srbds status: Vulnerable: No microcode 
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics vendor: Dell 
  driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:0166 
  Device-2: NVIDIA GF117M [GeForce 610M/710M/810M/820M / GT 
  620M/625M/630M/720M] 
  vendor: Dell driver: nvidia v: 390.144 bus ID: 02:00.0 
  chip ID: 10de:1140 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: modesetting 
  unloaded: fbdev,vesa compositor: kwin_x11 
  resolution: 1366x768~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 4000 (IVB GT2) 
  v: 4.2 Mesa 21.2.3 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio 
  vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 
  chip ID: 8086:1e20 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.0-9-amd64 
Network:
  Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network 
  Adapter 
  vendor: Dell driver: ath9k v: kernel port: e000 
  bus ID: 06:00.0 chip ID: 168c:0036 
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet 
  vendor: Dell driver: r8169 v: kernel port: d000 
  bus ID: 09:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:8136 
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
  Device-3: Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Bluetooth type: USB 
  driver: btusb bus ID: 3-1.4:6 chip ID: 0cf3:0036 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 525.38 GiB used: 231.26 GiB (44.0%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST500LT012-1DG142 
  size: 465.76 GiB block size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B 
  speed: 3.0 Gb/s rotation: 5400 rpm serial: <filter> rev: SDM1 
  temp: 28 C scheme: MBR 
  ID-2: /dev/sdb model: KING SHARE 300064G size: 59.62 GiB 
  block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s 
  serial: <filter> rev: 0A temp: 48 C scheme: MBR 
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw size: 59.62 GiB size: 58.38 GiB (97.93%) 
  used: 14.74 GiB (25.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb1 
  ID-2: /home raw size: 100.00 GiB size: 97.93 GiB (97.93%) 
  used: 28.67 GiB (29.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 69.0 C mobo: 33.0 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 3944 
Repos:
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
  1: deb http://mirrors.ustc.edu.cn/debian/ bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
  1: deb http://mirrors.ustc.edu.cn/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free
  2: deb http://mirrors.ustc.edu.cn/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list 
  1: deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
  1: deb https://mirrors.tuna.tsinghua.edu.cn/mxlinux/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
  2: deb https://mirrors.tuna.tsinghua.edu.cn/mxlinux/mx/repo/ bullseye ahs
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vscode.list 
  1: deb [arch=amd64,arm64,armhf] http://packages.microsoft.com/repos/code stable main
Info:
  Processes: 252 Uptime: 29m Memory: 7.67 GiB 
  used: 2.82 GiB (36.7%) Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 
  default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 
  Shell: quick-system-in running in: quick-system-in 
  inxi: 3.0.36 

[rainfox]

Here are my impressions after a week of daily usage on my Lenovo Y50-70

It was a clean install on a new SSD (I kept the old one for... you know, just in case).
Some fine tuning (themes, icons, boot...), replaced Clementine with Audacious, disabled Discover, installed Synaptic and apt-notifier
Also installed additional browsers (Chromium, Falkon), IM (Skype, Caprine, Zoom) and dev environment (Codium, MySQL Workbench, Azure Data Studio)
Tranferred settings from the old install (for selected applications only) and VMs

How did you disable Discover? I also installed apt-notifier for update check. Can it just be uninstalled? As I've seen in its settings there is no option to disable it. Or just disable the notifications?

[markol]

@rainfox don't uninstall it, just disable notifications:
1. right click on systray > configure > entries: find "Updates" and set to Always hidden
2. open System Settings > Notifications; at the bottom find Applications and click on "Configure", find Discover and uncheck everything; also click on "Configure Events" and make sure everything is unchecked as well. Don't forget to click on "Apply" :)

[rainfox]

@markol
Thanks, haven't seen the ability from (1) to hide specific notifications.
It should be enough to do disable Discover's notifications, right? It's double save :-)

[rainfox]

The Bluetooth status will always turn to activated on every reboot even if disabled in last session.
Is there a way to keep Bluetooth disabled?

[rainfox]

Some questions regarding the installer.
There is this page where you should enter domain and windows workgroup. These are mandatory fields. Why? I don't use this, during first install this really confused me since I did not know what to enter in the domain field and what side effects this could have. I now enter some random value there. But why can't I leave it blank?