MX-21 KDE/plasma RC1 feedback

[danielson]

@richb - thank you!

Made my day!

(used konsole to install - not sure about the MXPI part - it's not easy to be a non-geek!).

[richb]

@richb - thank you!

Made my day!

(used konsole to install - not sure about the MXPI part - it's not easy to be a non-geek!).

Glad to be able to help.

[Marek]

Is it possible to use LTS 5.4 kernel? At the moment I'm using 4.9, but I would prefer 5.4

[Adrian]

Is it possible to use LTS 5.4 kernel? At the moment I'm using 4.9, but I would prefer 5.4

MX-21 comes with 5.10 (which is a LTS kernel too), not 100% sure what you are talking about, if you are talking about MX-19 look in kernel section of MX PackageInstaller and try another kernel.

[gsm]

Multi-boot and common folders for various distributions.

This question was rejected as a common MX Linux question, since i use currently the MX 21 KDE version (up to date). And running fine!
I was directed to post my questions in this topic about MX-21 KDE RC1.
So i would like to ask my two questions over here, but i am not sure if this really is the right place to post these questions.
#1 Post by gsm » Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:46 pm (Software Configuration).

Currently i am running MX 21-KDE, Manjaro and Deepin 20.4, with multi boot on one system.
I created Documents and Pictures folders at one ext4 partition on a separate hard disk and mount that partition /dev/sdb1 to a folder /media/DATA.
So Documents and Pictures are folders created on the new partition and should be common for each distribution.
Steps are:
1) Create a DATA folder to be used as mount point.

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Sudo mkdir /media/DATA
sudo chown $USER /media/DATA

2) Edit fstab to mount the partition to /media/DATA.

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sudo echo "UUID=$(lsblk -no UUID /dev/sdb1) /media/DATA $(lsblk -no FSTYPE /dev/sdb1) defaults,noatime 0 2" >> /etc/fstab

3) Create symbolic links after moving the folders Documents and Pictures to a backup folder old-files.

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cd ~
mkdir old-files
mv Documents old-files
mv Pictures old-files
ln -s /media/DATA/Documents Documents
ln -s /media/DATA/Pictures Pictures

For Manjaro and MX 21 it works as expected, but not for Deepin 20.4.

My questions are:
1) Do i use a correct method for MX Linux ( in this case MX 21 KDE RC1) to achieve my goal of common folders for all distributions, or should that be done differently?

2) The XDG standard is said to be more precise implemented by Deepin Linux. Is that really true and is users-dirs.dirs used by MX Linux anyway?

So Deepin 20.4 is different and it is not possible to move the folders to the old-files folder (step 3).
A copy is made but the original folders Documents and Pictures stay present in the Home directory.
The method to make this working with Deepin, is simply to modify the ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs file as follows:

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# This file is created by dde.
# If you want to change or add directories, just edit the line you're
# interested in. All local changes will be retained on the next run
# Format is XDG_xxx_DIR="$HOME/yyy", where yyy is a shell-escaped
# homedir-relative path, or XDG_xxx_DIR="/yyy", where /yyy is an
# absolute path. No other format is supported.
# 
XDG_DESKTOP_DIR="$HOME/Desktop"
XDG_DOWNLOAD_DIR="$HOME/Downloads"
XDG_TEMPLATES_DIR="$HOME/.Templates"
XDG_PUBLICSHARE_DIR="$HOME/.Public"
# XDG_DOCUMENTS_DIR="$HOME/Documents"
XDG_DOCUMENTS_DIR="/media/DATA/Documents"
XDG_MUSIC_DIR="$HOME/Music"
# XDG_PICTURES_DIR="$HOME/Pictures"
XDG_PICTURES_DIR="/media/DATA/Pictures"
XDG_VIDEOS_DIR="$HOME/Videos"

This works instantly without having symbolic links, when using Deepin 20.4 and seems to be according a XDG standard.
It does not work this way with MX Linux (21) and with Manjaro.
Also the Deepin folders are in fact not renamed to the local language when using a different language.
They will show up renamed in the File Manager, but not when using a terminal.
In a terminal window the MX 21 folders and Manjaro folders are renamed to the local language.
I have read somewhere that the Deepin approach would be more in line with XDG standards.

System info

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System:
  Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.10.0-9-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
  parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-9-amd64 
  root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
  Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.20.5 wm: kwin_x11 dm: SDDM 
  Distro: MX-21_KDE_beta2_x64 Wildflower September 4  2021 
  base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: GA-MA770-DS3 v: N/A 
  serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 3 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: Gigabyte model: GA-MA770-DS3 serial: <filter> BIOS: Award v: F8f 
  date: 12/15/2009 
Battery:
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse M185 
  serial: <filter> charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes 
  status: Discharging 
CPU:
  Topology: Quad Core model: AMD Phenom II X4 920 bits: 64 type: MCP 
  arch: K10 family: 10 (16) model-id: 4 stepping: 2 microcode: 10000DB 
  L2 cache: 2048 KiB 
  flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4a svm bogomips: 22502 
  Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 800/2800 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 800 2: 800 
  3: 800 4: 1600 
  Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected 
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
  Type: mds status: Not affected 
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected 
  Type: spec_store_bypass status: Not affected 
  Type: spectre_v1 
  mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
  Type: spectre_v2 
  mitigation: Full AMD retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
  Type: srbds status: Not affected 
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Pitcairn XT [Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition] 
  vendor: PC Partner Limited driver: radeon v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.0 
  chip ID: 1002:6818 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: ati,radeon 
  unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa compositor: kwin_x11 
  resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: AMD PITCAIRN (DRM 2.50.0 5.10.0-9-amd64 LLVM 12.0.1) 
  v: 4.5 Mesa 21.2.2 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD SBx00 Azalia vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel 
  v: kernel bus ID: 00:14.2 chip ID: 1002:4383 
  Device-2: AMD Oland/Hainan/Cape Verde/Pitcairn HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 
  7000 Series] 
  vendor: PC Partner Limited driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
  bus ID: 01:00.1 chip ID: 1002:aab0 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.0-9-amd64 
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
  vendor: Gigabyte driver: r8169 v: kernel port: ee00 bus ID: 02:00.0 
  chip ID: 10ec:8168 
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 1.36 TiB used: 39.88 GiB (2.9%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: SSD 850 EVO 500GB 
  size: 465.76 GiB block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B 
  speed: 3.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 3B6Q scheme: MBR 
  ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Western Digital model: WD10EARS-00Y5B1 
  size: 931.51 GiB block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B 
  speed: 3.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 0A80 scheme: MBR 
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw size: 112.30 GiB size: 109.54 GiB (97.54%) 
  used: 9.07 GiB (8.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda4 
Sensors:
  Message: No sensors data was found. Is sensors configured? 
Repos:
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
  2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
  1: deb http://nl.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
  2: deb http://nl.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye ahs
Info:
  Processes: 205 Uptime: 2h 02m Memory: 7.77 GiB used: 1.85 GiB (23.8%) 
  Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 
  alt: 10 Shell: quick-system-in running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

[dolphin_oracle]

My brief experience with deepin desktop ended when I could not symlink my folders to another drive. I’ve always wondered if bind mounts would work but not enough to install deepin again.

[fehlix]

1) Do i use a correct method for MX Linux ( in this case MX 21 KDE RC1) to achieve my goal of common folders for all distributions, or should that be done differently?

I think so, yes. You can use symlinks. From XDG standard dir perspective it does not matter to have those folders show up/made in home or made in home as symlinks. The important part is to have all standard names and folders defined within ~/.config/users-dirs.dirs accordingly, b/c applications might query the default real location using e.g. "xdg-user-dir PICTURES" or "xdg-user-dir DOWNLOAD" etc.
From user perspective it might be an advantage of having those folder visible also within file manager under the $HOME folder.
Localization is an additional feature, which is done by adjusting the ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs based on current locale.
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2) The XDG standard is said to be more precise implemented by Deepin Linux. Is that really true and is users-dirs.dirs used by MX Linux anyway?

I do not have much experiences with Deepin. MX Linux handling of standard folder names seems to be implemented according to XDG standard. You can see in Xfce after login with different language the effect of XDG standard folder name localization, which is adjusting users-dirs.dirs. In KDE you see also localized folder names, e.g. after installing using non-English language, which are also registered within ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs.

[mtnstatetechie]

Just built this machine last week, pretty new hardware. 11th gen intel CPU I am using the onboard graphics (not a gamer), sound, networking.

I've got no video acceleration and am locked into 1280x1024 res. Looks like it loaded the vesa driver and not the Intel one. No sound either, playing with it right now to see if I can get it working. The Realtek LAN is working I do have networking.

Just reporting in! The XFCE testing release I used a couple days ago and everything worked fine on it! Weird. This test is older kernel I believe?

Keep up good work guys I think MX is the best distro out there right now.

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System:
  Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.10.0-8-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
  parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/antiX/vmlinuz quiet splasht nosplash 
  Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.20.5 wm: kwin_x11 dm: SDDM 
  Distro: MX-21_KDE_RC1_x64 Wildflower October 5  2021 
  base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: ASUS product: N/A v: N/A serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: ASUSTeK model: TUF GAMING B560M-PLUS WIFI v: Rev 1.xx 
  serial: <filter> UEFI: American Megatrends v: 1017 date: 07/13/2021 
CPU:
  Topology: 8-Core model: 11th Gen Intel Core i7-11700K bits: 64 
  type: MT MCP arch: N/A family: 6 model-id: A7 (167) stepping: 1 
  microcode: 40 L2 cache: 16.0 MiB 
  flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 
  bogomips: 115200 
  Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 800/4900 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 800 2: 800 
  3: 800 4: 800 5: 803 6: 800 7: 800 8: 800 9: 800 10: 800 11: 800 
  12: 800 13: 800 14: 801 15: 800 16: 800 
  Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected 
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
  Type: mds status: Not affected 
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected 
  Type: spec_store_bypass 
  mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
  Type: spectre_v1 
  mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
  Type: spectre_v2 
  mitigation: Enhanced IBRS, IBPB: conditional, RSB filling 
  Type: srbds status: Not affected 
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel RocketLake-S GT1 [UHD Graphics 750] vendor: ASUSTeK 
  driver: N/A bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:4c8a 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: vesa 
  unloaded: fbdev,modesetting compositor: kwin_x11 
  resolution: 1280x1024~77Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 12.0.1 256 bits) v: 4.5 Mesa 21.2.1 
  compat-v: 3.1 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Tiger Lake-H HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1f.3 chip ID: 8086:43c8 
  Device-2: YUAN High-Tech Development driver: N/A bus ID: 04:00.0 
  chip ID: 12ab:0380 
  Device-3: Logitech C922 Pro Stream Webcam type: USB 
  driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo bus ID: 1-10:10 chip ID: 046d:085c 
  serial: <filter> 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.0-8-amd64 
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX201 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: 6000 
  bus ID: 00:14.3 chip ID: 8086:43f0 
  IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8125 2.5GbE vendor: ASUSTeK driver: r8169 
  v: kernel port: 4000 bus ID: 05:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:8125 
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 523.07 GiB used: 2.81 GiB (0.5%) 
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 980 PRO 500GB 
  size: 465.76 GiB block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B 
  speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 serial: <filter> rev: 3B2QGXA7 scheme: GPT 
  ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 980 1TB size: 931.51 GiB 
  block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 
  serial: <filter> rev: 1B4QFXO7 scheme: GPT 
  ID-3: /dev/sda type: USB vendor: SanDisk model: USB 3.2Gen1 
  size: 57.30 GiB block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B 
  serial: <filter> rev: 1.00 scheme: MBR 
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw size: N/A size: 49.99 GiB used: 396.0 MiB (0.8%) 
  fs: overlay source: ERR-102 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 28.0 C mobo: N/A 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
  2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
  1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
  2: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye ahs
Info:
  Processes: 322 Uptime: 7m Memory: 62.58 GiB used: 965.8 MiB (1.5%) 
  Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 
  alt: 10 Shell: quick-system-in running in: quick-system-in 
  inxi: 3.0.36 

[SwampRabbit]

@mtnstatetechie please make sure you update, I see you have Mesa 21.2.1, we recently pushed out Mesa 21.2.2.

We have updates to the Intel drivers coming. Off the top of my head I believe the newer Intel Driver version we are testing right now (21.2.3) supports RocketLake.
Not to confuse the Intel and Mesa versions... they are the same.

I'll PM you if you're up for testing the newer Intel drivers?

[MadmanRB]

so you guys know that MX linux no longer works with my newer laptops wifi, the old MX 19 works but for some reason I can't get it working with version 21.
I have a RTL8821 internal wireless and the only way i can get any signal is via a TPlink external dongle....

this sucks!


Guess I am sticking with kubuntu on this computer again :(

I dont have that many USB ports on my newer lappy so I cant just leave my dongle in,

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System:
  Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.14.0-9.4-liquorix-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 
  compiler: N/A 
  parameters: audit=0 intel_pstate=disable acpi_enforce_resources=lax 
  BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.14.0-9.4-liquorix-amd64 
  root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
  Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.20.5 wm: kwin_x11 dm: SDDM 
  Distro: MX-21_KDE_RC1_x64 Wildflower October 5  2021 
  base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 15-ef1xxx v: N/A 
  serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: HP model: 8706 v: 99.40 serial: <filter> UEFI: AMI v: F.41 
  date: 04/13/2021 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 35.1 Wh condition: 35.1/35.1 Wh (100%) 
  volts: 13.1/11.6 model: Hewlett-Packard Primary type: Li-ion 
  serial: <filter> status: Full cycles: 316 
CPU:
  Topology: Dual Core model: AMD Ryzen 3 3250U with Radeon Graphics 
  bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen+ family: 17 (23) model-id: 18 (24) 
  stepping: 1 microcode: 8108109 L2 cache: 1024 KiB 
  flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm 
  bogomips: 20761 
  Speed: 1243 MHz min/max: 1400/2600 MHz boost: enabled 
  Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1243 2: 1251 3: 1406 4: 1443 
  Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected 
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
  Type: mds status: Not affected 
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected 
  Type: spec_store_bypass 
  mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
  Type: spectre_v1 
  mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full AMD retpoline, IBPB: conditional, 
  STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
  Type: srbds status: Not affected 
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Picasso vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: amdgpu v: kernel 
  bus ID: 04:00.0 chip ID: 1002:15d8 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: amdgpu,ati 
  unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa compositor: kwin_x11 
  resolution: 1366x768~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: AMD Radeon Vega 3 Graphics (RAVEN2 DRM 3.42.0 
  5.14.0-9.4-liquorix-amd64 LLVM 12.0.1) 
  v: 4.6 Mesa 21.2.2 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Raven/Raven2/Fenghuang HDMI/DP Audio 
  vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
  bus ID: 04:00.1 chip ID: 1002:15de 
  Device-2: AMD Raven/Raven2/FireFlight/Renoir Audio Processor 
  vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_pci_acp3x v: kernel 
  bus ID: 04:00.5 chip ID: 1022:15e2 
  Device-3: AMD Family 17h HD Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 04:00.6 chip ID: 1022:15e3 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.14.0-9.4-liquorix-amd64 
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8821CE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter 
  vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: N/A port: f000 bus ID: 02:00.0 
  chip ID: 10ec:c821 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 953.87 GiB used: 90.92 GiB (9.5%) 
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 model: T-CREATE TM8FPE001T size: 953.87 GiB 
  block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 
  serial: <filter> rev: S1218A3 scheme: GPT 
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw size: 34.92 GiB size: 34.92 GiB (100.00%) 
  used: 8.33 GiB (23.8%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 
  ID-2: /home raw size: 917.97 GiB size: 902.56 GiB (98.32%) 
  used: 82.59 GiB (9.2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 62.5 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 62 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
  2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
  1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
  2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bullseye ahs
Info:
  Processes: 225 Uptime: 6m Memory: 13.59 GiB used: 855.5 MiB (6.1%) 
  Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 
  alt: 10 Shell: quick-system-in running in: quick-system-in 
  inxi: 3.0.36 

As you can see I even tried to get the newer kernel working here, no dice.
Even the liqorix kernel doesnt do anything and that worked for me before on other linux flavors
The issue is the same with the 5.10 kernel