MX-21 RC1 feedback (Xfce)

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Re: MX-21 RC1 feedback (Xfce)

#91 Post by SwampRabbit »

hebelwirkung wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 1:41 am Small thing, but panel opacity can't be set. Whatever I do, it stays 100% opaque. Compositing is turned on in Window Manager Tweaks.
Please post your Quick System Info so we can identify if it’s something system specific.
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Re: MX-21 RC1 feedback (Xfce)

#92 Post by TOMCAT »

I can't find where the screen saver is.
There is no 'xfce4-screensaver' in the software repository.
But the user manual tells me 'Click Application Menu > Settings > Screensaver'
I don't know if it was discarded or just not in the software sources I use

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Re: MX-21 RC1 feedback (Xfce)

#93 Post by gsm »

When after a timeout period of no activity, the screen is resumed with only a cursor on a black screen, then this behavior is related to the default selected Xfmw Compositor (MX Tweak).
Refer also to my reply #65, EDIT 2.
XFWM4 Composite only seems to become a problem when it is selected as a Compositor with MX Tweaks.
It does not cause the "resume with cursor only" problem when composite is activated with the Windows tweaks settings from the settings panel (xfwm4-tweaks-settings).
Last edited by gsm on Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:32 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: MX-21 RC1 feedback (Xfce)

#94 Post by scratchcat1 »

There appears to be a bug with MX Tweak > Display > Hardware Backlight.
Moving the slider around quickly with the mouse results in bar length not matching with the number displayed and actual brightness.
The faster the slider is moved the more wrong the bar is compared to the actual number/brightness.
Making a small adjustment either with the mouse or keyboard fixes the problem.
Closing and opening MX Tweak moves the slider to the correct position.
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           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 19201 
           Speed: 1875 MHz min/max: 1199/2400 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1487 
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           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
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           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
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           source: ERR-102 
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           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
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Video Tweaks:
Detected possible Hybrid Graphics
pre-sandybridge UXA acceleration
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Re: MX-21 RC1 feedback (Xfce)

#95 Post by dolphin_oracle »

hebelwirkung wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 1:41 am Small thing, but panel opacity can't be set. Whatever I do, it stays 100% opaque. Compositing is turned on in Window Manager Tweaks.

Also I saw the discussion above about theming, and am wondering whether the wildflower background, coupled with the barely visible conky, is going to persuade first time users it's classy. That may be changed of course with a few clicks, and of course esthetics is a very personal thing, but I was thinking first impressions matter etc, so perhaps a slightly less wild default background might be worth considering.

Other than that, so far I haven't found anything not working. Oh, one other thing. On first install (in Virtualbox), after rebooting and entering my password in the login box, I was taken to the login prompt again if you see what I mean - I entered my password about a dozen times without being able to log in. Reinstalled and found that problem was fixed.
There is some bug in the panel that when you first set a custom color with opacity other than 100 percent the panel requires a restart for the change to go into effect.
http://www.youtube.com/runwiththedolphin
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FYI: mx "test" repo is not the same thing as debian testing repo.

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Re: MX-21 RC1 feedback (Xfce)

#96 Post by dolphin_oracle »

scratchcat1 wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 6:21 am There appears to be a bug with MX Tweak > Display > Hardware Backlight.
Moving the slider around quickly with the mouse results in bar length not matching with the number displayed and actual brightness.
The faster the slider is moved the more wrong the bar is compared to the actual number/brightness.
Making a small adjustment either with the mouse or keyboard fixes the problem.
Closing and opening MX Tweak moves the slider to the correct position.

Screenshot_2021-10-08_11-12-17.png

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.10.0-8-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
           parameters: persist_all quiet splasht nosplash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-21_rc1_x64 Wildflower October 5  2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Acer product: TravelMate 8372 v: V1.10 serial: <filter> Chassis: 
           type: 10 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Acer model: TravelMate 8372 v: PSMBOU-1234567 serial: <filter> BIOS: Acer 
           v: 1.10 date: 04/29/2011 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 62.9 Wh condition: 64.6/86.4 Wh (75%) volts: 16.6/14.4 
           model: Panasonic AS10I5E type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Charging 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5 M 450 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Nehalem 
           family: 6 model-id: 25 (37) stepping: 5 microcode: 7 L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 19201 
           Speed: 1875 MHz min/max: 1199/2400 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1487 
           2: 1452 3: 1485 4: 1425 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
           Type: mds 
           status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI 
           driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:0046 
           Device-2: NVIDIA GT218M [GeForce 310M] vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: N/A 
           bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10de:0a75 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: intel resolution: 1366x768~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics (ILK) v: 2.1 Mesa 20.3.5 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio 
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           chip ID: 8086:3b56 
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Network:   Device-1: Broadcom and subsidiaries BCM43225 802.11b/g/n 
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           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Broadcom and subsidiaries NetXtreme BCM57760 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe 
           vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: tg3 v: kernel port: 4000 bus ID: 04:00.0 
           chip ID: 14e4:1690 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 495.12 GiB used: 4.62 GiB (0.9%) 
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Partition: ID-1: / raw size: N/A size: 5.91 GiB used: 957.4 MiB (15.8%) fs: overlay 
           source: ERR-102 
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Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
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           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
Info:      Processes: 239 Uptime: 54m Memory: 7.45 GiB used: 1.52 GiB (20.4%) Init: SysVinit 
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           running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 
Video Tweaks:
Detected possible Hybrid Graphics
pre-sandybridge UXA acceleration
Hmmm thanks will look into it.
http://www.youtube.com/runwiththedolphin
lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 4 - MX-23
FYI: mx "test" repo is not the same thing as debian testing repo.

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Re: MX-21 RC1 feedback (Xfce)

#97 Post by hebelwirkung »

SwampRabbit wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 1:57 am
hebelwirkung wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 1:41 am Small thing, but panel opacity can't be set. Whatever I do, it stays 100% opaque. Compositing is turned on in Window Manager Tweaks.
Please post your Quick System Info so we can identify if it’s something system specific.

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           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-5.10.0-8-amd64 
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           init=/lib/systemd/systemd 
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           Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
           Type: mds status: Not affected 
           Type: meltdown status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full AMD retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
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I amended my earlier post saying that after a reboot, the panel opacity is now working as intended. Sorry to cause confusion - but on 19.4 or earlier, and in the beta versions of 21, changes took effect immediately, I assume it may be a tiny glitch which will be ironed out before final release.

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Re: MX-21 RC1 feedback (Xfce)

#98 Post by Leodudu »

SwampRabbit wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 1:55 am @Leodudu when you installed the Nvidia drivers you used the Nvidia Driver Installer and selected that you have an Optimus enabled system?
Yes.

It seems to me that in both Pop!-Os and MX Linux, the main monitor is controlled by the Intel adapter, and the other two monitors are controlled by the Nvidia adapter.

The commands I would like to make permanent are:

xrandr --setprovideroutputsource NVIDIA-G0 modesetting
xrandr --output eDP-1 --primary --mode 1920x1080 --pos 1600x0 --rotate normal --reflect normal --output HDMI-1-0 --mode 1600x900 --pos 0x0 --rotate normal --output DP-1-0 --mode 1920x1080 --pos 3520x0 --rotate normal

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Re: MX-21 RC1 feedback (Xfce)

#99 Post by SwampRabbit »

@hebelwirkung take a look at dolphin’s reply to you and let us know.
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Re: MX-21 RC1 feedback (Xfce)

#100 Post by SwampRabbit »

@Leodudu i personally don’t have any Nvidia hardware, used to, but Optimus systems can be tricky in way the GPU connects to the the outputs. Vendor integration can vary from laptop to laptop.

Give everyone a bit of time to look at your issue please, it may take someone knowing more and being able to reproduce this exactly.
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