MX-21 KDE/plasma beta 2 feedback thread

[TimothySimon]

@siamhie based on the potential timeline for maybe another Beta, RC, and Final... we have more than enough time to get it into Final.

Approximately when do you guys expect to have an RC ready or a final release? I'm so impatient for MX 21. This is the real Windows 11 for me pretty much.

Impatience -> Doing in a hurry -> Less stability, less polish and more problems.

Patience -> Take your own time -> More stability, more polish and less problems.

[heywoodidaho]

Yeah it's easy to get impatient when the betas are smoother than most distros releases,but like the sign in my shop says "Do you want it right or do you want it right now? : ]

[Arnox]

Yeah it's easy to get impatient when the betas are smoother than most distros releases

To be a little fair, MX is "cheating" by utilizing Debian Stable. lol

[Richard]

I have installed and used Debian Stable; while stable, it is missing a lot of what I desire in a distro.
And I never got it anywhere near to what the MX team does.
I was fortunate to be distro hopping in March 2014 when the first release was almost ready.
It did nearly all I wanted plus some great bonuses out of the box; still missing in Debian.

Also, the real push is getting all the MX magic to work with all the changes in the new Stable.
So, in the end, I get a Debian Stable on steroids with the bells and whistles I prefer.
And, all the updated MX magic works right out of the box.

[davemx]

Yeah it's easy to get impatient when the betas are smoother than most distros releases,but like the sign in my shop says "Do you want it right or do you want it right now? : ]

+1 Definitely!

[Adrian]

For what is worth, we keep upgrading out packages and improving stuff even after the release. But of course we'd like to get most of the annoying bugs out of the way before the release.

[Bonzoo2525]

My "L" key does't work on my Logitech keyboard.
MX sucks !
Nah. It's slick as it has been forever Someone once said.. when it's ready ? Clem? Ben? Coop ? Me ? I'm 68
It damn sure was NOT CannonBall ! Next update Aug 2022 3 am. fer sure dude.

Um I probably shouldn't say this.
I asked Clem about an LMDE/XFCE
Ummm. He said MX....Seriously

[siamhie]

7. When using autologin, it logs in once, then after a few seconds logs out and logs in again. I found another post on this thread where an MX dev explained that X restarts because of a special MX fix for making the SDDM power buttons work in SysVinit, and that most people should barely see a flash. And when I login manually, I don't notice X restarting at all. I only see it when I use autologin.

I tried that multiple times, I can't replicate the issue. I think we removed the SDDM fix so that should not play a role. Do you have Beta2 or updated Beta1 to Beta2?

I experienced that yesterday when I was working on one of manyroads new conky. When I was enabling and disabling the conky from the conky manager to see the changes, I would sometimes get logged out and logged back in but I would have to reconnect to the internet (password saved-so just select connect). I was booting back and forth between SysV and systemd so I'm not sure which init it was happening in. That seems to be the only time I've experienced this.

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.10.0-8-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-8-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet 
           splash init=/lib/systemd/systemd 
           Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.20.5 wm: kwin_x11 dm: SDDM Distro: MX-21_KDE_beta2_x64 Wildflower September 4  2021 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: ASUSTeK product: K30BF_M32BF_A_F_K31BF_6 v: N/A serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: ASUSTeK model: K30BF_M32BF_A_F_K31BF_6 v: Rev X.0x serial: <filter> UEFI: American Megatrends v: 0401 
           date: 04/29/2015 
Battery:   Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse serial: <filter> charge: 55% (should be ignored) 
           rechargeable: yes status: Discharging 
           Device-2: hidpp_battery_1 model: Logitech Wireless Keyboard K360 serial: <filter> 
           charge: 100% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: Discharging 
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: AMD A10-7800 Radeon R7 12 Compute Cores 4C+8G bits: 64 type: MCP 
           arch: Steamroller family: 15 (21) model-id: 30 (48) stepping: 1 microcode: 6003106 L2 cache: 2048 KiB 
           flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm bogomips: 27929 
           Speed: 2668 MHz min/max: 1400/3500 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2668 2: 2693 3: 3109 4: 2980 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected 
           Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
           Type: mds status: Not affected 
           Type: meltdown status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full AMD retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
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           v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 1002:6613 
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           resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
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Audio:     Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Kaveri HDMI/DP Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel bus ID: 00:01.1 chip ID: 1002:1308 
           Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH Azalia vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:14.2 chip ID: 1022:780d 
           Device-3: AMD Oland/Hainan/Cape Verde/Pitcairn HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 7000 Series] vendor: ASUSTeK 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.1 chip ID: 1002:aab0 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.0-8-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8821AE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter vendor: AzureWave driver: rtl8821ae 
           v: kernel port: d000 bus ID: 04:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:8821 
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: NetGear Nighthawk A7000 802.11ac Wireless Adapter AC1900 [Realtek 8814AU] type: USB driver: 8814au 
           bus ID: 4-2:2 chip ID: 0846:9054 serial: <filter> 
           IF: wlan1 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 1.36 TiB used: 549.33 GiB (39.3%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 EVO 500GB size: 465.76 GiB block size: physical: 512 B 
           logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 1B6Q scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Seagate model: ST1000DM003-1ER162 size: 931.51 GiB block size: physical: 4096 B 
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Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 130.00 GiB size: 126.90 GiB (97.62%) used: 8.09 GiB (6.4%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5 
           ID-2: /home raw size: 100.00 GiB size: 97.87 GiB (97.87%) used: 1.45 GiB (1.5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda6 
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 4.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap swappiness: 15 (default 60) 
           cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 4.1 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
           GPU: device: radeon temp: N/A device: radeon temp: 35 C 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
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           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
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           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
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           2: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye ahs
Info:      Processes: 198 Uptime: 6m Memory: 14.60 GiB used: 1.35 GiB (9.2%) Init: systemd v: 247 runlevel: 5 
           default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: quick-system-in running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

[Adrian]

When I was enabling and disabling the conky from the conky manager to see the changes, I would sometimes get logged out

Weird, sounds to me like a conky issue, but why would conky-manager log the computer off? Beats me...

[Eadwine Rose]

Does this happen with a particular conky, or is it just random?

Is there anything in the syslog maybe?